Beigl 1,387 Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 My starting XI CechIvanovic----Luiz----Terry----Cole-------------Mikel----Lampard-----------Ramires------Mata------Hazard------------------Torres--------------- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Why do you people keep putting Hazard in the hole instead of Mata? What the hell is wrong with you? Either some of you are delusional or you have forgotten that Mata was the best player on the team last year while playing in the hole and Hazard is a new player who hasn't even had time to adapt to the EPL yet. And yet some of you think Hazard is going to unseat Mata at his position and force him out wide.I think its because Mata can play on the Left wing and central, and it would appear that hazard is much better at CAM than at Left wing...Also i don't think you should look at it as being a players position as its whatever works best for the team. So if Mata at LW and Hazard at CAM is better than Mata at Cam and Hazard at LW, then it doesn't matter which individual is better in one position, though tbh it doesn't really matter that much as there should be a lot of movement in that front 3... Also with the arrival of Oscar, they both could end up on the wing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,889 Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 HOW DID THE REF NOT SEE THE FUCKING SLAP OMG CONSPIRACY THEORY.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Is Marin available? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bir_CFC 3,455 Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Why do you people keep putting Hazard in the hole instead of Mata? What the hell is wrong with you? Either some of you are delusional or you have forgotten that Mata was the best player on the team last year while playing in the hole and Hazard is a new player who hasn't even had time to adapt to the EPL yet. And yet some of you think Hazard is going to unseat Mata at his position and force him out wide.It's not cause people think Hazard is better than Mata, it's because people think the loss in Hazard's form by forcing him out wide is much bigger compared to that of Mata if he's played out wide.50% Hazard on the left + 100% Mata in the middlevs80% Mata on the left + 100% Hazard in the middle.I'm not saying I want Mata on the left, but just trying to clear it up for you. I don't think anyone ever said that Hazard is better than Mata in the hole, no way. Mata is our best player and it's not even close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Why do you people keep putting Hazard in the hole instead of Mata? What the hell is wrong with you? Either some of you are delusional or you have forgotten that Mata was the best player on the team last year while playing in the hole and Hazard is a new player who hasn't even had time to adapt to the EPL yet. And yet some of you think Hazard is going to unseat Mata at his position and force him out wide.Actually why not even bench Hazard? If we're going for a more defensive counter-attacking approach, then I wouldn't even play those two in one team. I would go for something like Marin - Mata - RamiresWith Mata being subbed for Hazard in 2nd half, reasons for that being that Mata needs rest (he's not a 90 minute game player) and Hazard needs to be bedded in gradually, not be a starter automatically in every single game right off the bat. Hazard will then have the opportunity to run at tired legs. Plus being benched once in a while will do good for his complacency if he has any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bir_CFC 3,455 Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Firstly this match is by no means unimportant. If we are to challenge for the title, City will be our biggest rivals. Beating them would just send a strong message to English Football. Additionally it would maintain RDMs perfect record in finals, boost our confidence and could accelerate the development of the squad in its new structure.Parking the bus as against barca and bayern is simply not possible as we lack a striker who can effectively play as left back AND score decisive goals. without Bertrand or Kalou we are also missing a relatively fast winger who can counter AND defend. Nonetheless trying to force our non-existent attack play on City is equally futile...Silva has never really performed against us, but I have also never been excited about Nasri. At any rate, we probably have to cede the midfiel to City anyway. With an Essien in decent form, we completely dominated City in 2011 at the Bridge and comprehensively beat them, This time, Yaya and de jong will absolutely bully Ramires or mata off the ball fi deployed there.Richards, Zabaleta, Kolarov, Clichy like to attack excessively. That is where were we will catch them, when their fullbcks are off position we have to win the ball deep in midfield and lamps can send out his inch-perfect diagonals for ramires to run after, storm forward and play a simple flat cross to the striker or finishing himself. Rambo mihgt be a CM esp a RCM, perfect for a diamond or 4-3-3 but in a defensive, counter oriented 4-2-3-1 he is the perfect weapon for the RW, as he tracks the fullback back, deep in our half and then is in the position to sprint forward when we got the ball back, can't think how often we scored because he was able to overturn the fullback.The problem is, we don't have s.o. like him for the other flank.Don't get me wrong, I strongly advise against using him regularly wide out there instead of signing a proper RW, but for the next game we need him thereTo control Agüero (who I still feel should be here instead of Torres), we need our fastest and most mobile defender.In this particular game, I'd also rather have Malouda or even Benayoun ahead of Marin from beginning. Marin is a good player, but anyone can skin a MLS-defender. In games as these, experience is more important.At last, Lamps and Mikel are an automatic choice for the double pivot. Mikel and Lampard are most comfortable when they seldom have to move more than 10m in a faster tempo. ACtually, Mikel and Lamps conduct themselves to footballs as Cats do to water. They don't really like to stay in contact with the ball longer or even move with it even though they are able to do so, but they like to have it for a few touches once in a while, but swiftly get rid of it. Playing rather defensively will surely enable them to get the space in front of the box clean and lamps to build up play from the deep or start the counterWhat is parking the bus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 TorresHazard Mata Marin4-2-3-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bababoom 4,478 Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Fuck going defensive, with the players we've bought i expect us to play more attacking, again not like Barcelona, just like how we was under Carlo or Hiddink, is that too much to ask? Can you imagine if we start having eleven men behind the ball? Oscar, Hazard, Mata, and Torres, all in our half... it would be fucking laughable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 It makes me cry that we spent all this money on players and we have to park the bus... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,582 Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 It makes me cry that we spent all this money on players and we have to park the bus...The same here as i said before... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseaKid10 35 Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Can't wait for the game. I will be there I think we should go with this line-upCech Ivanovic Cahill/Luiz Terry a.cole Lampard Mata RamiresSturridge Torres Hazard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themightyblue 443 Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 This is the type of game where i'd want to see Ramires play on the right because there are sure to be gaps in the City defence with them attacking us. Going from pre-season, i'd play:CechIvanovic Cahill Terry ColeEssien MikelRamires Hazard MarinTorresWas tempted to put in Mata, but Hazard and Marin have already developed some chemistry and so i'd like to see that. Bring on Mata at 60 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bir_CFC 3,455 Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Should we bench Mata? It's just the community shield, we'd like to win it but he can use the rest too surely. We can sub him in the last 25-30 mins but maybe not start the guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 CechIvan Cahill Terry Cole Lampard MikelHazard Mata Marin TorresWouldn't mind resting Mata, but as its our last game before the season starts properly i would like to see hazard and mata get some minutes together as they will be playing next to each other for a lot of games this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,985 Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Might have 2 tickets for sale ... if anyone is interested? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HRiver 1,512 Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 RDM has to start with Mata. Look at how boring and predictable our game was in the pre-season without him. Chelsea's player of last season is Chelsea's best player atm, imo, so if he doesn't start against City then we don't stand a chance.I know that he needs a rest, but against an opponent such as City he simply has to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 RDM has to start with Mata. Look at how boring and predictable our game was in the pre-season without him. Chelsea's player of last season is Chelsea's best player atm, imo, so if he doesn't start against City then we don't stand a chance.I know that he needs a rest, but against an opponent such as City he simply has to start.For what? Mata will get bullied off the ball all the time as he is always against physically much stronger opponents or whenhe is not fresh. Against yaya toure and de jong he will not hold on to one single ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 For what? Mata will get bullied off the ball all the time as he is always against physically much stronger opponents or whenhe is not fresh. Against yaya toure and de jong he will not hold on to one single ballSo? Does that mean we should just keep Mata on the bench whenever we come up against physical opponents?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinol 337 Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Mata wont start, im 100% sure of that. This is a Community Shield game where lots of changes will be made, and one of the changes will be Mata coming on from the bench.And I really want Hazard to do well in this game and show City and all of their supporters the quality player he is. Otherwise they will start with the "over rated, good that he chose Chelsea before us" talk! Come on Hazard! Rip em apart! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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