Oscar

[Styles 9,790]

It wasn't a mistake buying Oscar. Players that young and talented don't pop up every year. It isn't as if we've spent 50m on a rubbish out form player that we didn't need like Torres. We signed a 21 year old Brazilian international footballer with massive potential. To say we didn't need him is also rubbish. We don't have that many midfielders/attacking midfielders. The squad is thin and lacks numbers everywhere.

[Muzchap 8,966]

Yes! This is what I was trying to get at when I started the "Why are we playing 4-2-3-1?" thread.

Even 4-3-2-1 or 4-2-2-2 or something. The pivot is such a major part of this formation, but we don't have the players for it.

All last season I thought that all we need is a creative partner for Mata and I think we got that in Hazard. Oscar I felt was a bit too much in terms of AMs.

However, it's be great to see him alongside Ramires with Mikel/Romeu deep. He'd have to discipline himself though, otherwise it can turn back to 4-2-3-1. Add KDB rotating as a CM and a world class DM and it's a mouthwatering prospect...

I hope so! But until then I don't think we're suited to 4-2-3-1 at all...we've more CMs than DMs. It only makes sense.

Mata doesn't really work on the wing - he's much better through the middle?

Well at least in the games I've watched - our problem is we have no GENUINE WIDE PLAYERS - so we have to play through the middle which is easy to defend against...

We need to be turning the defenders and hitting the byeline and crossing the ball into the box (exactly how we concede so many goals!!!)... It's no secret - UTD have been doing it for years....

[Jase 43,479]

[BlueLyon 9,359]

What do you think of Dede?

Is he good CB?

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[BlueLyon 9,359]

Mata doesn't really work on the wing - he's much better through the middle?

Well at least in the games I've watched - our problem is we have no GENUINE WIDE PLAYERS - so we have to play through the middle which is easy to defend against...

We need to be turning the defenders and hitting the byeline and crossing the ball into the box (exactly how we concede so many goals!!!)... It's no secret - UTD have been doing it for years....

We need a player like Bale. Bit taller, fast with good technique, finish, crossing. Sanchez would be good option but he has terrible finish. Dzsudzsak would be good pick if you ask me...

[Rmpr 8,977]

What do you think of Dede?

Is he good CB?

Yes, but he had a big injury last year and I dont know how he will recover...

I am not really in the mood to make a big dissection on Dedé right now, sorry!

[OneMoSalah 8,885]

We need a player like Bale. Bit taller, fast with good technique, finish, crossing. Sanchez would be good option but he has terrible finish. Dzsudzsak would be good pick if you ask me...

Bale is one of the least technical players out. Hes all pace, strength and power. I'd like him to play for us yes him and Moses out wide with Ba upfront would absolutely smash teams.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

Bale is one of the least technical players out. Hes all pace, strength and power. I'd like him to play for us yes him and Moses out wide with Ba upfront would absolutely smash teams.

He still has good ball control, not everyone needs to be Hazard or Mata

[zolayes 14,489]

back on topic ..it is the Oscar thread. I have been disappointed so far. I'm not blaming Oscar he arrived after the season started and I don't think RDM worked out how best to use him , Benitez certainly hasn't.

I think this is an example of where a good experienced technical director could help a coach ... Of course WE have Emanalo.

[Peppen 934]

He is having a really good game. Neymar should of scored earlier.

[Jase 43,479]

Beginning to suspect that we bought the wrong Oscar. We got an imposter while the real one is still playing at Internacional..

[Mufassir08 2,400]

Oscar and wilshere the best players on the pitch so far.

[Dion 2,476]

The real one is at Internacional and comes only to play UCL games.

[Stingray 9,441]

Beginning to suspect that we bought the wrong Oscar. We got an imposter while the real one is still playing at Internacional..

Why and how could that be exactly? And I really mean this in a non cynical way. What can be wrong in a club context that gets in the way or blocks even the strongest individual talents. Food for thought.

Nobody ever becomes all he or she can be without the right nurturing context. All we know now, is that Chelsea can be be a real hard context (for young guns, strikers, ....).

From what i have seen on motivational theory in real life (companies and so on), a strong internally competitive element, which is mostly focused on short term goals, always hinders the bolstering of real, true gems and benefits exactly those you will not carry it in the long rung ... and this is the situation we are in now.

Oscar needs nurturing and he will become great. hazard too, as will Moses n Lukaku. The real issue is, will we give them the space (in time and, reputational credit and hold of the banter for a while) to really develop and make their mark.

[kellzfresh 7,229]

Oscar = Fabregas