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He's nowhere near as important as those you've mentioned. Oscar is actually a pretty good finisher so naturally he'll get goals, he's surrounded by world class players so naturally he'll get assists, but the biggest things he brings to the team can easily be replaced IMO simply by putting someone like Ramires next to Matic in the pivot and pushing Fabregas up. He's not excellent in the build up play or the final ball either, he's very hot and cold in that matter (more often cold). I'm not having this notion that he's as important as Fabregas, Hazard, JT or Costa.

When was the last time Oscar seriously influenced a big game as well please? The only game that sticks out is his CL debut against Juventus. Oscar is a definitely a good player to have around but he's not one of our star players and never will be. People might think I'm being harsh but I've honestly seen minimal progression and improvement over the last 3 seasons in Oscar, which bitterly disappoints me.

Ask lionsden, I used to be one of Oscar's biggest defendants but honestly he just hasn't progressed enough and it just doesn't look like he's going to be that special player I thought he might be. My issue with Oscar isn't that he's a bad player. He's pretty good. He'll develop into a good player as well. My issue simply put is that he will never be an elite, world class number 10. We can always do better in that position if he remains the starter IMO.

As I said before however... He's more than welcome to prove me wrong though.

Sadly, I agree.

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@CFC888 I was going to reply to your post and then I noticed your avi picture and favourite player and suddenly it all makes sense How you are defending Oscar so passionately and that it would simply be a waste of time to engage you in this debate.

So my opinion is invalid due to an image aligned with my profile and the fact that I enjoy watching Oscar at his best? Alright then.

I'm not going to get involved in a personal tussle with you, but I would appreciate it if you could have the decency to respond to the points I and some others like Viper have made with a proper counter-opinion, rather than attempting to pick apart our supposed lack of credibility or responding with completely irrelevant GIFs...

When was the last time Oscar seriously influenced a big game as well please? The only game that sticks out is his CL debut against Juventus.
I asked myself this question a few days ago and came up with the same answer. It's a very good point and certainly an area where Oscar must improve.

Tomorrow's game is a good example. Oscar may end up getting a start if Diego and Cesc in particular are both out, but if they were both available I highly doubt Jose would start Oscar. Why? Not because we need a more defensive minded option with Mikel/Ramires next to Matic and Cesc further forward, but because Oscar doesn't produce on the big stage for Chelsea, which is very frustrating, because it's certainly not due to a lack of ability.

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I dont feel he has the quality to be a long term 10. Gets lost in games, lacks that decisive vision and final pass. Also gave the ball away far too easily today. Can be brilliant but very inconsistent.

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I said days before the match - just after the match against Liverpool ended actually, that he should be dropped from the team today because playing 210 minutes within four days would harm his presentation because he just can't cope with this amount of football especially in the second half of the season.

I was expecting him to be really bad and he was exactly that.

BUT I don't think it's that much fair to judge him on his quality, ability, etc... given the circumstances. He already showed that he has inconsistency issues that he needs to work on and other limitations to his game, but Mourinho only played him today because he literally had no other option... Mourinho played him twice in the cups games planning on have Ramires and Cesc for this game and bench Oscar. He wasn't counting with Cesc's injury and as a result Oscar was battered and except for the last ten minutes, it looked like we played with ten because he did absolutely nothing.

Like Matic said (according to some, I didn't see post match interviews) players aren't robots, they get tired, even more players such as Oscar who aren't physically on par with the demands of the league. He struggles when he plays too many minutes in such a short streak of time. I said it before the match and I'm not surprised at all with his terrible performance.

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Here we are again discussing how badly he played. He will be the one on the bench at the end of the season with Hazard, Cuadrado and Willian playing. No doubt about it. He plays almost everytime like this... but at the end he can do a good shot, a good pass and everyone forgets about the inmense amount of things that he does wrong.

He is the problem of this team. Every other player can perform regularly, can do what they are supposed to do. Oscar can't, he is a number 10 that creates nothing, can't play in counter attack, at the middle of the season he doesn't defend well ...

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I can't remember the last big game he was outstanding. He should be careful not to find himself on the bench.

Hazard willian cuadrado is still a formidable attacking trio so he better step up in the big games or he won't play any one in the future

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I said days before the match - just after the match against Liverpool ended actually, that he should be dropped from the team today because playing 210 minutes within four days would harm his presentation because he just can't cope with this amount of football especially in the second half of the season.

I was expecting him to be really bad and he was exactly that.

BUT I don't think it's that much fair to judge him on his quality, ability, etc... given the circumstances. He already showed that he has inconsistency issues that he needs to work on and other limitations to his game, but Mourinho only played him today because he literally had no other option... Mourinho played him twice in the cups games planning on have Ramires and Cesc for this game and bench Oscar. He wasn't counting with Cesc's injury and as a result Oscar was battered and except for the last ten minutes, it looked like we played with ten because he did absolutely nothing.

Like Matic said (according to some, I didn't see post match interviews) players aren't robots, they get tired, even more players such as Oscar who aren't physically on par with the demands of the league. He struggles when he plays too many minutes in such a short streak of time. I said it before the match and I'm not surprised at all with his terrible performance.

I think that his 'problems' have been there for the majority of the season regardless of this specific game.

I dont want to sell him, I kinda like him. But we should definately be going out looking for a good playmaker this summer because we cant rely on Oscar.

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