Ollie 4,400 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 We lose 1 game in pre season and now it's a disaster. They are half way through their season and fully fit, it's basically just a training match for us with some players missing. Yes I was pissed off at the end but it means nothing. It'd better to judge us against PSG and Milan ad they are at a similar stage in preparation for the new campaign. Was a bit pissed off with Hazard too but it's just a friendly. If we beat AC Milan 3-0 it will turn to "wow what a squad we have". The big first game is Man City on the 12th. That will show us how good we are and where we are in regards to what we can aim for in May. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azpinator 2,325 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 So if you think that Mairn is overrated (on the paper), check again. Plenty of members here don't think he's gonna have a big impact (on the paper), same goes for Kevin and Oscar (again, on the paper). BECAUSE THEY AREN'T NAMES TO BE FEARED. And yet you started by saying they're overrated.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Some people are actually retarded.I have clearly been saying Mikel is a shit player, and not because of these three games.And last season when Mikel was on a good run i was still saying we should sell him, because he isn't good enough. It's time to get rid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave30 728 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 On paper our squad is up there with the best in the world. As shown in Europe our defence is the most spirited in the world, our youth players really have some special talent and going forward its easier to argue we've got to much rather than to little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klopfzeichen 78 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Some people are actually retarded.I have clearly been saying Mikel is a shit player, and not because of these three games.And last season when Mikel was on a good run i was still saying we should sell him, because he isn't good enough. It's time to get rid.You need to relax a little Kojo. No need to get all this agitated, it's only just a game. I disagree regarding Mikel, the guy is talented but he can be lackadaisical and erratic at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santiago. 1,500 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 It's just the lack of motivation and focus from our players during these matches that upsets some of the fans which leads them to believe they will take that same kind of mentality and state of ability into the season and perform that way forever. Many get upset and to a certain extent i agree, not to make a fuckin thread and call them all overrated though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santiago. 1,500 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 It's just the lack of motivation and focus from our players during these matches that upsets some of the fans which leads them to believe they will take that same kind of mentality and state of ability into the season and perform that way forever. Many get upset and to a certain extent i agree, not to make a fuckin thread and call them all overrated though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teignman 441 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Wow, normally you don't see these type of threads until the leaves start changing. Anyway, I wouldn't say we're overated. It's early days yet. It is absolutely vital that we add some steel to our midfield, an alternative to Brana and Paolo "Pai Tempo" Ferreira at RB, and perhaps a Striker to provide some insurance for Nando. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 The big first game is Man City on the 12th. That will show us how good we are and where we are in regards to what we can aim for in May.Wonder how many will then be saying "It's only a pre-season game. Our first big test is against Wigan..." IF we lose to City... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevemayer 764 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 this is all disgusting and shocking... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRonaldo 55 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 The thing is the new comers are young.Marin, Hazard, Oscar, KdB, it's young.And I have also an interrogation: Marin, Hazard, Oscar + Mata, it's seems a but alike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arief 40 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 cmon dude, i bet you never seen oscar playing for Chelsea and you already judged him.Funny Maybe you dont know where is oscar best position, but im sure Chelsea coach/staff not stupid and know the best for Chelsea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diskoviolente 425 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 These kind of threads are exactly the reason why I have some resentments against message boards.First thing in the morning I want to read so opinion and what do I get ? Some unbalanced, knee jerk reactions to a lost pre-season (!!!!!! how many more times?) game. To be fair there are a lot of good postings on here , the majority actually. ( I am just on a banter-mission)But as soon as the slightest of things goes wrong, there are all the voices who know exactly why Mikel (of all people) is shit, that our squad is overrated (by whom exactly?) and that we are in deep shit already (yes, already, three pre-season games "into the season").I am just wondering with what sort of expectations people watch Chelsea play football. We don´t hold the devine right to win every game. Football is a game of "some you win, some you lose". We just had one of our truely great seasons last season and people, I mean, some of the the own fans write us off already ? What kind of mentality and spirit is that ? We haven´t even see someone like Marin in competative action, and already is shit ? What sort of view on football is that anyway ?I am not saying that one can´t critique players or a performance, but what I certainly think is stupid are these kind of broad generalizations who don´t help anyone to understand what one thinks is going on.And please, don´t give me a "Lukaku/Mikel/Malouda/Hazard/Mata is shit" anymore because they don´t perform like on the X Box. The footballers we discuss here are not shit. They just have different qualities. It is not like you just win the lottery and become a first team footballer in one of Europes biggest teams.I am sometimes jumping on several bandwagons myself, but I try to stick to some differenciated views after the initial knee jerk reactions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedsBlue 1,549 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Some fans here are just so impatient and naive. FFS,the whole squad is not even back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky 301 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Rofl... Who has these almighty expectations? Im expecting City to win the league, they have the best squad. But we, we have a wonderful bunch of talent at a young age which needs nurturing and moulding. I'd be more than happy with a top three finish, a cup win and a quarter final in the CL. This team is one for the future not next season!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrippingStep 336 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 We have good attackers, i disagree with you on that bit.But our double pivot is serious problem, and i mean very serious.I don't think Lampard can play it, just because he had a good 4 month playing it doesn't mean that's his new natural position and he will play well.John Obi Mikel is embarrassing, shite player, never seen him track back once, on that 2nd goal where was he?, he was miles behind that player who scored, when really he should be marking him and tracking back. Not years away having a convo with the linesman.That double pivot is the strength of the team, it really is, we need to get that sorted.KDB will come good, i assure you, he is a good player. Hazard i'm actually a slight bit worried.I'm with you on this one. I think it will take quite a lot of time to have chemistry in the team. The back fourn the holding midfield doesn't to be on the same page when it comes to playing style with the creative players that Chelsea will have.A DM, RB and Striker must be bought if the change of playing style to be succesfull. Lukaku is not good and like with Belgium, it's often like playing with 10 men when he's on the field as he seems incapable of linking up with any midfielders. Torres Sturridge is not enough for a whole season. I've read that Cavani was linked to the club and I think he would be a good option as he moves quite a lot and would create spaces for the midfielders, he can also keep the ball and would link up quite well and he is a great header. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhead23 1,147 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 And for millionth time: I said the team on paper is overrated, not the team on the field! I m confused here ... how is a team on paper be overrated and the same team on the field is not. Are u contradicting urself? By what u started I sure u expect us to win 5 out 7 trophies/titles in which we are competing. I guess u need to hold your horses and relax, even if we win 2 of them it would be really good for us. And if these signings were done by United, i would have been very very worried 1. they are adding strength to their side, 2. They are getting potentials who could kick a** in the future because they get to gel and learn from the experience guys in the team. 3. These signings provides more options to the manager. But since these are Chelsea signing, guess they are nothing but overrated! Last season we didnt sign enough players to enter into transition, we were said that we lack ambitious. Now these season we have signed young Potential players (probably stars of the future which is subjected to performances), so now people say players are overrated. Guess as the wise men says, it is difficult to please everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluephoenix 1,131 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 first we blame for now buying young players / right players and now that we have done it ... you blame them ...it takes time to polish a diamond... we have diamonds in our squad it will take time to smoothen the sharp ends Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrippingStep 336 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 I think the season after this one will be the season when the club will have a squad suited to the new style they want.Don't get me wrong, Lampard is and was a good midfielder but he played his best in a advanced role in the pitch.I remember when England played with a two midfield of Lampard and Gerrard some years ago and it was awful. In their clubs, they were very good but they had great midfielder behind them, Alonso Mascherano for Gerrard, and Makelele and Essien ( in top form).I really think that to succeed the club will need two great midfielders that can control the game and covers.-----------Azpilicueta-------------not decided on the two central defenders-------------------------------Cole (then next big thing)------------------------------------------needs two midfielders--------------------------------------------Oscar-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Mata---------------------------------------------------------Hazard-------------------------------------Cavani------------------------------------------------------------------------- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HRiver 1,512 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 I think the season after this one will be the season when the club will have a squad suited to the new style they want.Don't get me wrong, Lampard is and was a good midfielder but he played his best in a advanced role in the pitch.I remember when England played with a two midfield of Lampard and Gerrard some years ago and it was awful. In their clubs, they were very good but they had great midfielder behind them, Alonso Mascherano for Gerrard, and Makelele and Essien ( in top form).I really think that to succeed the club will need two great midfielders that can control the game and covers.-----------Azpilicueta-------------not decided on the two central defenders-------------------------------Cole (then next big thing)------------------------------------------needs two midfielders--------------------------------------------Oscar-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Mata---------------------------------------------------------Hazard-------------------------------------Cavani-------------------------------------------------------------------------When have these two signed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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