Eden Hazard

[Ossie the King 634]

Just now, Jason said:

Yes but in Hazard's case, it's not THAT bad till has any correlation. He didn't exactly come back totally fit in previous pre-seasons and he didn't suffer any notable injuries, did he? IIRC, this is like the 3rd time only that he's suffered a notable injury. Otherwise, his injury record has been near perfect.

Age and miles on the clock are a factor in that too. He's not 17 and a pup anymore, he's 25 in a few days with over 400 games under his belt.

Not long till he makes a groaning sound getting off the sofa.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

1 minute ago, Ossie the King said:

Age and miles on the clock are a factor in that too. He's not 17 and a pup anymore, he's 25 in a few days with over 400 games under his belt.

Not long till he makes a groaning sound getting off the sofa.

A familiar feeling is it?

[Ossie the King 634]

Just now, LDN Blue said:

A familiar feeling is it?

No comment.

[Jase 43,479]

Hiddink on Hazard's injury...

http://www.chelseafc.com/news/latest-news/2016/01/final-whistle-verdict-post-palace.html?extcmp=SOCIA_TW_ENG_NEWS_POSTMATCH

‘He slipped, spread his legs and he has a little problem with a muscle inside his groin. We’ll see tomorrow with the MRI scan how damaged it is.’

[Special Juan 27,421]

Spread his legs alright, just needs a good fucking now for his recent displays.

[striker 43]

4 hours ago, Mana said:

47 minutes ago, Special Juan said:Spread his legs alright, just needs a good fucking now for his recent displays.

Moron! If this is the way you treat players, that contributed already so mutch to your club, when they have a bad period you don't deserve top players.

But what the hell,  you are propably one of the idiots still shouting the Mourinho name every game and making a fool of yourselves in front of the rest of Europe.

Hopefully you have see. En the last 4 games why Mourinho should hebt been fired in september instemde of december.

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,919]

11 minutes ago, striker said:

Moron! If this is the way you treat players, that contributed already so mutch to your club, when they have a bad period you don't deserve top players.

But what the hell,  you are propably one of the idiots still shouting the Mourinho name every game and making a fool of yourselves in front of the rest of Europe.

Hopefully you have see. En the last 4 games why Mourinho should hebt been fired in september instemde of december.

[OneMoSalah 8,776]

Is it just me or did we look better after he went off? 

[Polo7 3,496]

He should rest and fully recover both physically and mentally before he comes back into the team. There needs to be some improvement from him because it hasnt been anywhere near good enough.

Costa had a shocking start to the season but he has shown improvement these last few weeks.

[Jase 43,479]

4 hours ago, OneMoSalah said:

Is it just me or did we look better after he went off? 

Hard to tell really. We weren't in control of the game BEFORE he went off and we weren't in control of the game AFTER he went off either. We only took control of the match after we got the first goal and even then, that came out of the blue because we created absolutely nothing before that.

[Jase 43,479]

Find it quite sad that some people are turning their backs so easily on Hazard, the player who won the Player of the Year accolades last season and the one who led us to the title when everyone else had ran out of steam last year, after one bad half of a season. Granted, he has been poor but I don't think he deserves his professionalism to be questioned at all (it only really picked up steam after Mourinho threw him under the bus at Leicester). If some can show a lot of patience with Mourinho, who was in his worst moment and after all the wrong things he's done, then why can't people do the same with Hazard? (heck, even Torres got far more patience despite doing next to nothing!) We are not talking about an average player here. We are talking about a special talent who has played his part in helping us win things in recent years and who will become of the best in years to come. He deserves better support than what he has been shown so far, particularly in his toughest moment of his career.

[1chelsea 864]

He is one among those who wanted Jose out by not playing to his best. Now that Jose is out we need him blazing. For his attitude displayed since the medic incident hazard lost it and became a figure head in the team a passenger. He should play to his fullest Jose is out

[MefiX19 1,092]

15 hours ago, OneMoSalah said:

Is it just me or did we look better after he went off? 

I love the guy. but it seems that our team is playing better without him.

[Ossie the King 634]

11 hours ago, Jason said:

Find it quite sad that some people are turning their backs so easily on Hazard, the player who won the Player of the Year accolades last season and the one who led us to the title when everyone else had ran out of steam last year, after one bad half of a season. Granted, he has been poor but I don't think he deserves his professionalism to be questioned at all (it only really picked up steam after Mourinho threw him under the bus at Leicester). If some can show a lot of patience with Mourinho, who was in his worst moment and after all the wrong things he's done, then why can't people do the same with Hazard? (heck, even Torres got far more patience despite doing next to nothing!) We are not talking about an average player here. We are talking about a special talent who has played his part in helping us win things in recent years and who will become of the best in years to come. He deserves better support than what he has been shown so far, particularly in his toughest moment of his career.

Already corrected you on this once mate but it's been muttered about for quite a while amongst the supporters. Some just laugh off his 'slow starts' to the season but others take that one step further and ask why.

Don't misrepresent people's criticism as them turning their backs on them - maybe those supporters don't deserve you criticising them.

[Fulham Broadway 16,829]

Doesnt address the bigger issues, but yesterday it seemed a simple question of not warming up. Could be wrong, and its alright doing a few lunges, but that pre match sideways groin stretch is a must

[Jase 43,479]

46 minutes ago, Ossie the King said:

Already corrected you on this once mate but it's been muttered about for quite a while amongst the supporters.

Corrected? What are you now - some kind of legit news source?

But for argument's sake, even if it has been muttered, it didn't go overboard till after Jose was sacked - e.g people calling him a rat/snake because he apparently didn't play for the manager. Like I said, it would carry more legs if the point was discussed widely before Jose decided to hang certain players out to dry.

On a side note, it's actually quite funny that Jose decided whether Hazard was injured or not just by looking at him when he was not the one who's getting kicked every week. For much of the last 2 seasons, he constantly called for referees to protect him because players are putting hard tackles on him (should be thankful that if he hadn't picked up more injuries). And this season, when he has finally picked up injuries because of the treatment he's getting from the opposition, Jose instantly doubted it and accused him of faking injuries. Talk about a manager who cares about his players' health and condition.

46 minutes ago, Ossie the King said:

Don't misrepresent people's criticism as them turning their backs on them - maybe those supporters don't deserve you criticising them.

Don't misrepresent people's criticism? How about not trying to come up with conspiracy theories to doubt Hazard's integrity and professionalism to begin with?

I think when you start to come up with baseless accusations and question a player like that, you deserved to be criticized.

[Fulham Broadway 16,829]

16 hours ago, Polo7 said:

He should rest and fully recover both physically and mentally before he comes back into the team. There needs to be some improvement from him because it hasnt been anywhere near good enough.

Costa had a shocking start to the season but he has shown improvement these last few weeks.

Agree with that. His expression shows hes not 100% into it like last season. Shouldnt be written off, but something isnt right, 

[Ossie the King 634]

3 minutes ago, Jason said:

Corrected? What are you now - some kind of legit news source?

But for argument's sake, even if it has been muttered, it didn't go overboard till after Jose was sacked - e.g people calling him a rat/snake because he apparently didn't play for the manager. Like I said, it would carry more legs if the point was discussed widely before Jose decided to hang certain players out to dry.

It's been discussed openly for years. Every time his 'slow starts' or summer weight or his ability to be the best in the world comes up there's discussion of his professionalism.

 

5 minutes ago, Jason said:

On a side note, it's actually quite funny that Jose decided whether Hazard was injured or not just by looking at him when he was not the one who's getting kicked every week. For much of the last 2 seasons, he constantly called for referees to protect him because players are putting hard tackles on him (should be thankful that if he hadn't picked up more injuries). And this season, when he has finally picked up injuries because of the treatment he's getting from the opposition, Jose instantly doubted it and accused him of faking injuries. Talk about a manager who cares about his players' health and condition.

 

Jose's always placed a lot of emphasis on players having fight, and there have been many who have talked about how much they love him. What this has even got to do with Jose I don't know but some seem to want to paint everything in that light. Maybe you're not aware of the chat about Hazard that's been going on for years and you've suddenly discovered it but it's really not got anything to do with Jose. Eden has apparently always had a fairly relaxed attitude to things like training.

6 minutes ago, Jason said:

 

Don't misrepresent people's criticism? How about not trying to come up with conspiracy theories to doubt Hazard's integrity and professionalism to begin with?

I think when you start to come up with baseless accusations and question a player like that, you deserved to be criticized.

What conspiracy theories? I'm not aware that I've alluded to any conspiracies, theories yes. Conspiracy theories, think you've typed the wrong thing there lad.

As for baseless accusations, wrong again.