King Kante 979 Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jason said: I know, I know. Am just curious if it would have turned out that way had he stayed, because the drop had been quite sudden. It is hard to say, I think the Menuier challenge was the one to have tipped him over the edge but something like that could've happened here. I remember saying when he left that it was a shame he was going then as I felt he had one more season in him before his peak would end. Fortunately for us, we sold then as it actually looks like his peak ended in the Ropey League Final 2019. For me, it is not that much of a surprise as I gave him only one more peak year; although I did also conceded that he may be able to turn it into two in La Liga with the less physical demands. However, I always thought he was not someone that was going to be a top player into his early to mid 30's owing to his application. Either way, I feel really sorry for Eden, but equally happy we played an absolute blinder with it. Edited March 29, 2021 by King Kante Quote Link to post Share on other sites
R2D2 368 Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 21 hours ago, Jason said: Curious to see a timeline where had he stayed with us, would he have become injury prone etc... Curious to see a timeline where Hazard didn't have to play his career with average feckers like Willian, Moses and Pedro. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
OneMoSalah 7,744 Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 2 hours ago, King Kante said: I think you will find he was the most fouled player in Europe whilst with us for virtually every season he was here. Some years, it was by a ridiculously long margin and those where the fouls given and not the ones allowed to run on. Just because he didn't flop to the ground and rolled around like he was Limp Bizkit's biggest fan, doesn't mean he wasn't kicked up in the air. Well, I think everyone was half expecting it with Hazard as he has never been one to keep himself in great condition. For me, it is twofold: 1) Lack of conditioning/application to training throughout his career has come back to bite him. 2) The fouls he has had put on him have finally caught up. The only way I am surprised is that it has happened so early. I thought he would get to a Rooney cliff edge at about 30/31 like he did, not at 28/29. Most fouls yes he got that quite a lot. But doesnt mean every foul was a horrendous tackle. Or explain the muscle injuries. For me its an excuse to cover the fact hes always been a poor trainer (look who has all said it about him, Mourinho, Mikel, JT) and what has happened to him at Real would of happened here so in hindsight getting rid of him was the right move. Plus he lacks the mentality to play for a Real or a Barcelona, have always felt that, just isnt ruthless enough. They want to be the very best (maybe just now isnt best time to make this comparison but still) which is why guys like Ronaldo, Messi, Bale, Suarez, Neymar have all been hugely successful there. Because mentally they wanted to be the best players in the world or better than player X, Y or Z. 2 hours ago, Jason said: I know, I know. Am just curious if it would have turned out that way had he stayed, because the drop had been quite sudden. I think it would of happened here in all honesty. So that deal we sold him for looks better and better every time I see hes out injured or that Zidane can’t explain what is wrong with him. 8 minutes ago, R2D2 said: Curious to see a timeline where Hazard didn't have to play his career with average feckers like Willian, Moses and Pedro. The thing is, average players or not, he played his best football of his career here and when he retires he will probably acknowledge that himself. Everyone always said he needed better players etc but his performances for Belgium (look at their squad) also havent trumped some of the performances he put in here with less talented players. But nobody mentions that either. Realistically hes 30, he probably has 3 or 4 more years in him at a higher level before he will fade off but even then I think hes pretty much done in terms of the level of player he was here. He will never be mentioned as a top 10 player in the world unless he does something huge. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
killer1257 3,281 Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 21 hours ago, Jason said: Doesn't explain all the muscle injuries he's gotten. Yes it does. According to some doctors, he has to run differently nowadays due to his pain in his ankle. That different running technique is not good for his muscles because it overloads his muscles and they get injured all the time Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MoroccanBlue 4,208 Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 Just now, killer1257 said: Yes it does. According to some doctors, he has to run differently nowadays due to his pain in his ankle. That different running technique is not good for his muscles because it overloads his muscles and they get injured all the time That is such a strange analysis. Is this actually a fact or something you conjured up? His muscular injuries have more to do with a combination of poor offseason preparation and recovery. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
killer1257 3,281 Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 1 minute ago, MoroccanBlue said: That is such a strange analysis. Is this actually a fact or something you conjured up? His muscular injuries have more to do with a combination of poor offseason preparation and recovery. https://www.marca.com/en/football/real-madrid/2021/03/16/604fe77a22601d3e638b45ec.html Bad running technique causes many injuries. I speak from experience Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MoroccanBlue 4,208 Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 50 minutes ago, killer1257 said: https://www.marca.com/en/football/real-madrid/2021/03/16/604fe77a22601d3e638b45ec.html Bad running technique causes many injuries. I speak from experience I do as well, and I reiterate that is such a strange analysis. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
robsblubot 2,717 Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 (edited) yes, niggling injuries can play a part in muscle injuries, but I guess the question here is how much. Personal opinion, not a whole lot. And it's not just the training, or lack thereof, but stuff like this "confessing that he was carrying an extra 5kg in weight when he touched down in Madrid. "It's true," Hazard told L'Equipe. "I'm not going to hide it, but when I'm on vacation, I'm on vacation." Carrying extra weight (being unfit) is the #1 reason for muscle injuries. Hamstring is known as a the "coming back injury" for ex. Edited March 29, 2021 by robsblubot Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jase 43,476 Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 23 minutes ago, robsblubot said: yes, niggling injuries can play a part in muscle injuries, but I guess the question here is how much. Personal opinion, not a whole lot. And it's not just the training, or lack thereof, but stuff like this "confessing that he was carrying an extra 5kg in weight when he touched down in Madrid. "It's true," Hazard told L'Equipe. "I'm not going to hide it, but when I'm on vacation, I'm on vacation." Carrying extra weight (being unfit) is the #1 reason for muscle injuries. Hamstring is known as a the "coming back injury" for ex. Think what is clear is that Hazard got into football for the fun, the entertainment side of things. He has all the talent to be right at the very top but he just isn't committed to do that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Blue Armour 3,308 Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 Any chance he could travel with the Madrid squad, even if unfit? Would have been nice if he was on the Stamford Bridge pitch to get his return,..and also nicer if there were fans to welcome him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 6,171 Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 He was in training before the Liverpool game. Hope he is involved because all the pre-match attention will be on him. Funnily, no one has mentioned Courtois since the draw was made - it's all been about Eden 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
milka 2,775 Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 (edited) it would be too strange to see Eden against Chelsea like Lampard with City vs Chelsea , Cech with Arsenal vs Chelsea and Drogba with Galatasaray vs Chelsea Edited April 23, 2021 by milka Quote Link to post Share on other sites
OneMoSalah 7,744 Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 2 hours ago, milka said: it would be too strange to see Eden against Chelsea like Lampard with City vs Chelsea , Cech with Arsenal vs Chelsea and Drogba with Galatasaray vs Chelsea Well thats if he makes it through the game v Betis unscathed. Wouldn’t be surprised, everytime hes gotten fit at Madrid hes got injured not long after Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Magic Lamps 10,414 Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 Even if he was to feature he will not be fully fit and on form. Sure he still can have his moments but this is not prime hazard and we should not change our gameplan for him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blue Armour 3,308 Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 Nice that he gets to meet Chelsea again, but wish it was in front of the fans. He would have got a very warm welcome at the Bridge. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Magic Lamps 10,414 Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 He featured vs Real Betis and did look a tiny bit like his old self. Does not have the confidence but looks like he still has the touch and at least a bit of his pace. Him and vinicius could actually be quite a threatening duo. Lets hope they have their usual wasteful day in a Realshirt. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
whats happening 1,191 Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
R2D2 368 Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 Is getting teared apart on the Real Madrid forum. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NikkiCFC 6,589 Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 Just now, R2D2 said: Is getting teared apart on the Real Madrid forum. He does not care... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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