Eden Hazard

[zolayes 14,489]

Arsenal probably. But than again, wenger loves ramsey

PSG i dont know.

Bayern, real and barca is a definite no

Ribery and Robben are near their end Eden would be a perfect replacement..

[Jase 43,479]

Pedro and Cesc played enough to be consider significant for both barcelona and Spain.

So you are using the number of games they play to judge whether they are good or not? That's really clutching at straws. Compare to Pedro, Fabregas hardly had much of an impact or made much of a difference while playing for Barcelona.

In addition, oscar and willian are both starters on brazil. Brazil compared to old brazil is bad, but brazil vs most of the world is still in brazil's favor.

Again, you're clutching at straws to say Willian and Oscar are good players just because they're starters for Brazil. Anyone who watches them regularly will know they are just decent at best. And you must be confusing yourself regarding this Brazil and the past ones. The current side are nowhere near the quality of the previous teams. You can practically count the number of the really good players they have with one hand.

[Stingray 9,441]

Do you want me to wiki mario gotze too?

Yes, i just looked it up.

UEFA European Under-17 Football Championship Golden Player: 2009[101]

UEFA European Under-17 Football Championship Team of the tournament: 2009 [102]

Fritz Walter Medal: U17 Gold Medal 2009[103]

Fritz Walter Medal: U18 Gold Medal 2010[103]

Bundesliga Young Player of the Year: 2010–11

kicker Bundesliga Team of the Season: 2010–11, 2012–13

Tuttosport Golden Boy: 2011[104]

Goal of the Month (Germany): July 2014

Silbernes Lorbeerblatt: 2014

FIFA World Cup 2014 Man of the Match: vs. Ghana

FIFA World Cup 2014 Man of the Match: vs. Argentina

Where are the Player of the year awards Eden did every year since 18? He had 2010-2011 young player.

Ps:i forgot Eden's u18 stats if you wanna include them

Ps2: i do not downgrade Gotze, but i think you are downgrading Eden. One of us btw.

[Oscar 441]

So you are using the number of games they play to judge whether they are good or not? That's really clutching at straws. Compare to Pedro, Fabregas hardly had much of an impact or made much of a difference while playing for Barcelona.

Again, you're clutching at straws to say Willian and Oscar are good players just because they're starters for Brazil. Anyone who watches them regularly will know they are just decent at best. And you must be confusing yourself regarding this Brazil and the past ones. The current side are nowhere near the quality of the previous teams. You can practically count the number of the really good players they have with one hand.

brazil is still a top 5 side in the world.

Just like how Spain, even though they got spanked by a shit holland team is a top 5 side in world. Some positions are lacking for brazil, but not backline and not midfielders. If they were gks and cf you would be totally right

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Excellent and showed some real determination after going down (as did most of the team, tbf). My MOTM.

Not sure why he doesn't pull the trigger when he has the chance.

Confidence (or lack of).

[LAM09 6,784]

Confidence (or lack of).

Possibly, but he wasn't that keen when he was flying last season.

[Oscar 441]

Yes, i just looked it up.

UEFA European Under-17 Football Championship Golden Player: 2009[101]

UEFA European Under-17 Football Championship Team of the tournament: 2009 [102]

Fritz Walter Medal: U17 Gold Medal 2009[103]

Fritz Walter Medal: U18 Gold Medal 2010[103]

Bundesliga Young Player of the Year: 2010–11

kicker Bundesliga Team of the Season: 2010–11, 2012–13

Tuttosport Golden Boy: 2011[104]

Goal of the Month (Germany): July 2014

Silbernes Lorbeerblatt: 2014

FIFA World Cup 2014 Man of the Match: vs. Ghana

FIFA World Cup 2014 Man of the Match: vs. Argentina

Where are the Player of the year awards Eden did every year since 18? He had 2010-2011 young player.

Ps:i forgot Eden's u18 stats if you wanna include them

Ps2: i do not downgrade Gotze, but i think you are downgrading Eden. One of us btw.

I don't think bundesliga actually has an official POTY or TOTY award.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Possibly, but he wasn't that keen when he was flying last season.

Naturally he is not a selfish player and will more often look for the pass, but this season there is that milli-second hesitation in his decision making and not just in shooting but in dribbling and passing as well. The missed penalty also obviously hasn't helped, but on the bright side he is obviously regaining his physical and mental sharpness.

[herzogian 148]

I don't think bundesliga actually has an official POTY or TOTY award.

Jawohl! Fußballer des Jahres, last one to win was De Bruyne.

[Oscar 441]

Jawohl! Fußballer des Jahres, last one to win was De Bruyne.

That award isn't bundesliga.

It's to anyone playin in germany or german international playing abroad.

[LAM09 6,784]

Naturally he is not a selfish player and will more often look for the pass, but this season there is that milli-second hesitation in his decision making and not just in shooting but in dribbling and passing as well. The missed penalty also obviously hasn't helped, but on the bright side he is obviously regaining his physical and mental sharpness.

I agree. Looked much more lively today and was a threat.

[Stingray 9,441]

That award isn't bundesliga.

It's to anyone playin in germany or german international playing abroad.

Give it up, you are even doing this futile attempt against one of our own. Djeez man.

[Oscar 441]

Give it up, you are even doing this futile attempt against one of our own. Djeez man.

You just said where are his poty awards...

I just told you that bundesliga do not have any official awards like ligue 1 or epl.

[Stingray 9,441]

You just said where are his poty awards...

I just told you that bundesliga do not have any official awards like ligue 1 or epl.

You called stats and awards mate. You challenged me on Gotze. Take it on the chin and support the blues.

[Oscar 441]

You called stats and awards mate. You challenged me on Gotze. Take it on the chin and support the blues.

Should we compare gotze's team accolades vs hazard too? Since, bundesliga, the only league he plays in doesn't have an official toty or poty award.

Just because hazard has individual awards doesn't mean he would start on the big 3...Go wiki douglas costa's awards.

PSg and arsenal are easier to get in, but arsenal already have ozil and psg probably when zlatan is sold, but than again why would belgians want a shit manager like blanc to oversee hazard's growth.

[herzogian 148]

You just said where are his poty awards...

I just told you that bundesliga do not have any official awards like ligue 1 or epl.

Though you're nitpicking quite a bit you are right. Fußballer des Jahres is comparable to the FWA footballer of the year, which Hazard also won last season.

[striker 43]

Wtf? he had a free role today and people still say it's the manager's fault he can't score. OK...

You really don't get it do you!

When a team losses the ball they have 2 options.

1. Pressing forward to regain ball posession as soon as possible. This is what teams like Bayern, Barca,... do. This way you regain posession further up the pitch. Closer to the opponents goal.

This way, their attacking players can use their individual skill close to the opponents goal.

2. Running back and waiting for the opponent to make a mistake. That is Jose's tactic. Problem for highly skilled players like Willian or Hazard is that they get the ball om their OWN half or around the middle of the pitch. Far away from the opponents goal.

So it is nearly impossible to BE dangerous in front of goal.

Willian was great against Liverpool. But how many times was he able to try to dribble someone naar the opponents penalty area?

And that is the problem players like Hazard or Willian have in this kind of tactic.

Now we are talking about Hazard missing that 1 chance. That is not the problem. The problem is he usually only gets 1 or 2 chances in a game. Players like Robben from top teams like Bayern or Barca get more than 1 or 2 chances a game so it's no big deal if they miss one. And beleive me, they also miss chances.

So the problem with Mourinho is not wether or not he gives someone a free role, but his complete tactics. You can never play dominant with his tactics.

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,920]

You really don't get it do you!

When a team losses the ball they have 2 options.

1. Pressing forward to regain ball posession as soon as possible. This is what teams like Bayern, Barca,... do. This way you regain posession further up the pitch. Closer to the opponents goal.

This way, their attacking players can use their individual skill close to the opponents goal.

2. Running back and waiting for the opponent to make a mistake. That is Jose's tactic. Problem for highly skilled players like Willian or Hazard is that they get the ball om their OWN half or around the middle of the pitch. Far away from the opponents goal.

So it is nearly impossible to BE dangerous in front of goal.

Willian was great against Liverpool. But how many times was he able to try to dribble someone naar the opponents penalty area?

And that is the problem players like Hazard or Willian have in this kind of tactic.

Now we are talking about Hazard missing that 1 chance. That is not the problem. The problem is he usually only gets 1 or 2 chances in a game. Players like Robben from top teams like Bayern or Barca get more than 1 or 2 chances a game so it's no big deal if they miss one. And beleive me, they also miss chances.

So the problem with Mourinho is not wether or not he gives someone a free role, but his complete tactisch. You can never play dominant with his tactics.

or they can

3.

Pout and sulk without even trying to get the ball back like Fabregas did at the end there