hjperdeath 2,226 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 I for one - again - am not defending.But: criticising Hazard does not automatically imply you have to stick up for Mourinho. It is like saying 'evolution is wrong, so the bible is right'. Hazard fucked up, so did Mourinho imo. What is the deal with that statement. Or do you think he put up a tactical masterclass? I didn't have a go at you man. I was just putting up an opinion across to the other guy. I haven't seen your post.I'm not sticking up for Mourinho. I was one of the guys who was completely against what happened versus Basel and a few other games. I'm not forever sticking up for him, even tho I admire him far too much to be called healthy. But in this particular situation, I defend him. Because he deserves to be defended. Put ourselves into his shoes. How many PC's has he said hypocritical things which makes him look like he suffers from severe autism just to protect his players? He doesn't deserve to be blasted for defending Hazard in the latest PC and pinpointing a flaw in him. I'm sorry, but he doesn't.I don't think it was a total master-class or that Mourinho fucked up. 43 minutes, we were in cruise control. Then a sudden defensive lapse, and a stupid stupid penalty to give away. Not under Jose's controls. Jose made the one mistake of trying to change the game too early. Cole out, and Eto'o in IIRC. and after that we've never had the kind of balance or players in the squad to come back against a team that could dominate with a 1-3 scoreline. No team in Europe does. wiefisoichiro, Barbara, darrus and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 nothiing... absolutely NOTHING that jose has said is wrong. it was the same EXACT THING that most of us were saying yesterday. the importance of being a team player cant be lost even if u r eden hazard. simple as that. Practically, you are spot on, but this is not the first time Jose is deflecting blame away from himself to hide his failures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 No need to wait, it already is.http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2618436/Jose-Mourinho-claims-Chelsea-winger-Eden-Hazard-not-ready-100-cent-team.htmlWell, as expected. I, honestly, feel Jose needs to brush up on his English. This creates animosity only. How would you feel if I were to say, you do not do your job properly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 a stupid stupid penalty to give away Yet noone talks about this, really. hjperdeath 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Well, as expected. I, honestly, feel Jose needs to brush up on his English. This creates animosity only. How would you feel if I were to say, you do not do your job properly?I'd take it on board and make sure I was better, after all, the boss is the boss for a reason. darrus 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Hazard fucked up, so did Mourinho imo. What is the deal with that statement. Or do you think he put up a tactical masterclass? I think if we do what we did against Liverpool and win 1-0 against a better team then a few people call it a 'tactical masterclass'.But tactics don't just exist on the whiteboard at Cobham - they have to be executed by every member of the team. Hazard didn't, so the narrative becomes something else.In Madrid he set his team up and 11 men did their jobs - he got the result.In Liverpool he set his team up and 11 men did their jobs - he got the result.On Wednesday he set his team up and 10 men did their jobs.Ok, fair enough, that's one example out of 9 defeats this season. Against Newcastle, Sunderland, Villa, and PSG he either criticized his players or blamed the refs. So you don't like him blaming the refs, don't like him criticising players and forget when he takes the blame.What you want is a mute manager - why don't you lead by example? Barbara, Term-X, Peppen and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 I'd take it on board and make sure I was better, after all, the boss is the boss for a reason.Some might, others may feel it is not justified. Two ways of looking at it. Especially in the public. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Yet noone talks about this, really. If you want to talk about it then you have to start at the beginning - why was Eto'o on the pitch? Because we had to chase the game.Put simply we had to chase the game against la liga leaders with a midfield of Luiz and Ramires and no top-class striker. If Jose wanted to do that then he'd have done that from the first minute, not the 55th.We might not have lost the game because of Eden, but we lost our best chance of winning it because of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Some might, others may feel it is not justified. Two ways of looking at it. Especially in the public.Moap about it or do something about it, not a difficult choice is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 On Wednesday he set his team up and 10 men did their jobs. Again I refer to the penalty plus the lack of attacking contributions from others (or did you find the passing % of the central midfield adequate for a semi final for example). It is much more than just one piece of the machinery not functioning. It was more like general failure sparked by several individual mistakes - not just Hazards. Though he played one of the more visible roles (together with the completely ignored eto'o) Eden2020, The Skipper and couris 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 If you want to talk about it then you have to start at the beginning - why was Eto'o on the pitch? Because we had to chase the game.We might not have lost the game because of Eden, but we lost our best chance of winning it because of him.I will put the question right back and start at the beginning: why was Eden on the pitch? Especially after an injury?Those are Mourinho decisions. A leader takes responsibility. You win as a team, you lose as a team. couris 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Moap about it or do something about it, not a difficult choice is it?It could backfire? Pull Hazard aside, tell him about it, but in the public. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,896 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Pretty scathing words from José there.Hopefully Eden takes it the right way and agrees with him. Maybe we'll see a nice, positive reaction at the weekend.I would like to think this won't be another CR7 situation like last season when José said something about Ronaldo not taking advice on how to improve and help the team more. Their relationship crumbled after that.Hazard seems to be keen to learn and improve unlike Ronaldo. The only place to be 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 It could backfire? Pull Hazard aside, tell him about it, but in the public.Nothing to backfire too, Jose is the boss, doesn't matter how Eden takes it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Practically, you are spot on, but this is not the first time Jose is deflecting blame away from himself to hide his failures.jose's to blame? for what? for setting us up perfectly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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