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2 minutes ago, DYC. said:

POTY.

Even before this game he was. Crazy the media hype for Kante, some even saying he's the best player in the league when he's not near that. Kante is excellent but he has flaws. Hazard is Hazard. 

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Just now, MrExcalibur100 said:

Even before this game he was. Crazy the media hype for Kante, some even saying he's the best player in the league when he's not near that. Kante is excellent but he has flaws. Hazard is Hazard. 

He's always been my POTY. I find Kanté overrated but saying that is just asking for trouble.

The amount of times Hazard has been the standout player on the pitch, whether he scored/assisted or not, is staggering. For me anway.

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Reminds me so much of 2015 when he was carrying to the title from new year on. No coincidence that he was POTY back then. He will win this award this year too.

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On 4/3/2017 at 1:23 PM, The Skipper said:

I only put Hazard ahead because Messi doesn't seem to be as explosive with his dribbling anymore, but tbh you could argue he's still better. Nevertheless, those three are the top 3 dribblers on the planet right now. 

They are probably similar at dribbling alone: like you said hazard is more explosive, but Messi has tighter ball control which helps in tight spaces, which in turn helps more in the CL.

Messi is way ahead concerning vision and also ahead concerning goals and tight control of the football, hence his advantage in the CL stage. IMO Ronaldo does not come close to messi in terms of tight control and working in tight spaces as he needs some space to work (hazard does too to a lesser degree). Ronaldo has power though, which makes him an aerial thread in certain conditions; in tight games he's more of an aerial threat than anything else. Personally, I'd not exchange Hazard for Ronaldo.

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3 hours ago, MrExcalibur100 said:

Even before this game he was. Crazy the media hype for Kante, some even saying he's the best player in the league when he's not near that. Kante is excellent but he has flaws. Hazard is Hazard. 

Kante himself thinks Hazard has been the difference maker....Its not just him in the team either, Pedro has also made the same comment.

Players are those who usually make more rational judgments in this regard.

I would say Kante has been an excellent supporting act. Probably the best in the business. 

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Hazard is defo the POTY for me, regardless of whether Kante wins it. I think a lot of the media understandably are amazed by Kante's rise and link to helping two PL teams win the PL but Hazard has been the key player in winning games. The amount of games where he has produced MOTM performances, let me name. City, Home and Away, Arsenal at home, United at home, Bournemouth at home, Swansea at home, Leicester at home, West Ham home and away, Everton at home, Southampton away, Burnley at home. No exaggeration to say he had at least 9/10 or 10/10 performances those games. Kante been brilliant but don't think he has been standout over some of our other players such as Hazard, Costa (although he has been poor recently) and even Luiz as a whole for the season.

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On 03/04/2017 at 3:18 AM, The Skipper said:

Hazard is a better dribbler than Messi, not a better playmaker though. Doesn't have Messi's vision. Don't need stats to show that, just watch both play and tell me whether you think Hazard can execute half of the passes Messi does. 

Messi is very underrated as a creator tbh. 

I disagree. Hazard's vision is incredible and is definitely in the same conversation. You're arguing for vision, I'm arguing for creativity. You don't have to have Cesc-esque full range vision to be a creative force. 

 

On 03/04/2017 at 9:23 PM, The Skipper said:

I only put Hazard ahead because Messi doesn't seem to be as explosive with his dribbling anymore, but tbh you could argue he's still better. Nevertheless, those three are the top 3 dribblers on the planet right now. 

It's not even close between them at this point. Both Messi and Hazard high volume dribblers. 

Hazard has completed 125 dribbles at a surreal 78 % (!!) success rate. From my research on Squawka, this is the most devastating dribbling season in the last 5 years in all the top European leagues. Hazard is dribbling better right now than Messi did in his prime. Messi has never even come close to matching such efficiency. 

This season he has 84 completed dribbles at 60 % success rate

2015/2016 - 117 completed dribbles at 63% success rate

2014/2015 - 174 completed dribbles (eh) at 56% success rate (again, high volume dribbling rate at an efficiency akin more resembling Zaha than Garrincha)

2013/2014 - 143 completed dribbles at 59% success rate

2012/2013 - 122 completed dribbles at 63% success rate

Some stats can be misleading but dribbling stats are pretty much irrefutable. Messi has never even done it at 70% success rate before. And that's despite playing next to some of the best players ever, ballon d'or winners, players who demand the attention of opposition defenders. You'll think he'll have more space to operate. Meanwhile, Hazard is the centre of attention. In 

2014/15, Eden had - 180 completed dribbles at 64% success rate, a season were he was double marked in almost every game and getting tortured by defenders. I can post the others for the preceding seasons but you can look them up yourself. He still crushes Messi for effeciency. 

I don't even need any stat to know Hazard is a superior dribbler to Messi. The eye-test shows Messi fails quite a lot of his dribbles for everyone he gets right. He often loses the ball. Hazard rarely ever loses the ball when he attempts to beat players. He just simply blows past them. If we just forget the name at the back of the jersey and consider it's not LIONEL MESSI, this is not even a debatable point all things considered. Hazard is the best dribbler of his era and one of the most devastating dribblers the game has ever seen.  

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^^^ His goal record against the top teams speaks for itself. Heck if you want to inflate it, you could even include the goal against Bayern in the European super cup, and the goals scored in the friendlies against Barca and Real.

 

For me, today was almost a captain like performance. Leading by example through performance, rather. The way he kept pressing for the ball in the first half even after the equalizer showed how much he wanted to keep the tempo of the game going.

His post-match interviews are also top notch, including how he spoke about the Courtois mistake.

Has the most MOTM awards as well for our team, right? That there says a lot..

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On 4/2/2017 at 3:56 PM, MrExcalibur100 said:

Hazard is both a better creative player and better dribbler than Messi was in his prime. Some stats lie but creativity and dribbling stats don't 

Messi miles better as a passer and a finisher though. He always makes pinpoint passes when on the run while Hazard is often wayward. Thats the difference between the two if you ask me.

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1 hour ago, MrExcalibur100 said:

I'm also going to state here that Hazard is our best big game performer of all time, with Drogba. Whatever happens from now on, he's already a legend at this club for me. 

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

When he performs in the champions league we can talk.

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1 hour ago, MrExcalibur100 said:

I'm also going to state here that Hazard is our best big game performer of all time, with Drogba. Whatever happens from now on, he's already a legend at this club for me. 

We need to do everything in are power to keep him here what a talent

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1 hour ago, Chelsea Legend 11 said:

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

When he performs in the champions league we can talk.

He's performed in the CL numerous times. We just play cowardly football.

 

Parking the bus against Atletico & then starting a game with 6 defenders, sitting deep against 10 man PSG & he was injured last season.

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13 minutes ago, Gilvorak said:

He's performed in the CL numerous times. We just play cowardly football.

 

Parking the bus against Atletico & then starting a game with 6 defenders, sitting deep against 10 man PSG & he was injured last season.

Can you remind of of these numerous times? And don't mention the game against that team from israel

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4 hours ago, MrExcalibur100 said:

 

I don't even need any stat to know Hazard is a superior dribbler to Messi. The eye-test shows Messi fails quite a lot of his dribbles for everyone he gets right. He often loses the ball. Hazard rarely ever loses the ball when he attempts to beat players. He just simply blows past them. If we just forget the name at the back of the jersey and consider it's not LIONEL MESSI, this is not even a debatable point all things considered. Hazard is the best dribbler of his era and one of the most devastating dribblers the game has ever seen.  

Are you talking right now or you are talking about messi in his prime because right now Hazard is in his prime where as Messi on his way down.

Without question right now hazard is a better dribbler than messi but at his prime messi can pick up the ball and midfield and scared the whole defence 

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