Jase 43,479 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 4 hours ago, The Skipper said: A tactical foul that cane about from him losing the ball just before. Wouldn't praise him for that. He did? Couldn't remember that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gadget 126 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 We need support for him. Do people think he will perform week in week out on his own. When we get stuck we give him the ball and hope he pulls something out. Only Mata and Cesc have been on his wavelength both in intelligent ability in terms of ball retention. Dont mean to bash a player but we need a upgrade on Willian. Everytime he gets the ball i know he's going to shimmy and flick it to his right foot and i dont have a week off to study him before a match Mufassir08 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Yes, support him, but he isn't immune to criticism. I can't believe people are trying to blame someone like Costa for his extremely average performance. Beigl, calculatingInfinity and Blue-in-me-Veins 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyeye 7,501 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 21 hours ago, Jason said: Disagree about him not taking defenders on. He bottled that one-on-one but on the other hand, he saved our ass (IIRC) by committing a tactical foul when Swansea countered and could have been free on goal. he did lose the ball for that counter and made up for it with the foul lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustafa 885 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 I'm sorry but Eden is a weird weird player man. I've tried really really hard to understand him but I'm struggling to understand how he can just seem content with not having the ball. And how he doesn't want to be the difference week in week out. We all have doubts over his mentality and on Sunday it was clear as day what he's like. Didn't seem to care too much when he didn't touch the ball in a dangerous area for 10-15 mins. Didn't care too much when he did receive it because -barring one ocassion- he didn't do anything with it. I feel like this season he's been instructed NOT to come deep and pick up the ball like he did in previous seasons, but my lord.... how can you be the main man of the team if you don't show for the ball. I was super dissapointed in his finish after the run.. he had the entire left side of the goal gaping.. it seemed to me that he tried to put it through the keepers legs like he did against De Gea but you could see his not a very good finisher from the way he lost composure and fucked himself up with the touch right before he shot. And then the other 1v1 looooooool. I almost fucking threw my phone at the TV. It's acc confirmed he's a serial pussy. How you can do that when your team is 2-1 down (and the way we conceded the two goals were the most annoying ways possible).. how you can see that and then have a chance to equalize and you just jump out the way????? Fuckkk sake... I think I've lost all hope in him being a top top Ballon D'or winning player if I'm honest. Maybe he's just not as good as we all think he is forreal.. Essien19, iceboy and DDA 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DDA 9,937 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 16 minutes ago, Mustafa said: I'm sorry but Eden is a weird weird player man. I've tried really really hard to understand him but I'm struggling to understand how he can just seem content with not having the ball. And how he doesn't want to be the difference week in week out. We all have doubts over his mentality and on Sunday it was clear as day what he's like. Didn't seem to care too much when he didn't touch the ball in a dangerous area for 10-15 mins. Didn't care too much when he did receive it because -barring one ocassion- he didn't do anything with it. I feel like this season he's been instructed NOT to come deep and pick up the ball like he did in previous seasons, but my lord.... how can you be the main man of the team if you don't show for the ball. I was super dissapointed in his finish after the run.. he had the entire left side of the goal gaping.. it seemed to me that he tried to put it through the keepers legs like he did against De Gea but you could see his not a very good finisher from the way he lost composure and fucked himself up with the touch right before he shot. And then the other 1v1 looooooool. I almost fucking threw my phone at the TV. It's acc confirmed he's a serial pussy. How you can do that when your team is 2-1 down (and the way we conceded the two goals were the most annoying ways possible).. how you can see that and then have a chance to equalize and you just jump out the way????? Fuckkk sake... I think I've lost all hope in him being a top top Ballon D'or winning player if I'm honest. Maybe he's just not as good as we all think he is forreal.. Mate, spot on! I couldn't believe it when He didnt just put the ball to the left side of the keeper but tried to nutmeg him instead! I couldn't let it go for the rest of the game. That would have been game over! Mustafa 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustafa 885 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Fuckk meee.... this is giving me headaches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 We started ruining him when we kept him as a winger. We should've seen that he was supposed to progress as a player after leaving Lille, not stay the player he was. He had the potential to become one of the greatest playmakers, but our coaches didn't want to see it. It's too late now me thinks to change how his mind instinctively reacts to things on the pitch so it's our loss now, but what could've been, would've been beautiful. He should be deployed the exact way De Bruyne demands to be. Neither player is a winger, and even so, out of the 2, De Bruyne has more winger qualities. Mustafa 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bir_CFC 3,455 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 He didn't have a horrible game. But when you watch him at his best, it's hard to accept a performance like that because it was clear that it could have been a much better game if he was more determined. Wish he had Sanchez's mentality. Dude is always so confident and never shy to force something. Don't think it'll chance now though, it's too late. Still a world class player though. Stingray, The Skipper and kellzfresh 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 8 hours ago, Mustafa said: Fuckk meee.... this is giving me headaches. What your stills don't show is where he was in his stride. If you've ever played the game before you'd know that running at top speed then striking the ball correctly is all about timing. The screen shot at 8:01 is precisely what I'm talking about, you froze it right after his last touch which created the gap for him to shoot. The split second after that touch made it difficult to get a shot off with any sort of power. The only opportunity I see where he should've ripped a shot was the touch before he passes to Diego. The touch before he released the ball was perfect and opened up a shooting lane... he opted to pass it when right there he should've shot it. Having said that Diego was waiting for it in space and had time to measure a shot, wasn't the best angle but 7/10 times Diego buries that. The opportunity in the first half I thought he made the right decision to try and open up Fabianski and slip it underneath him. The defender was to the right of him so made no sense to cut inside towards the pressure. Keeper made a good save for sure. And finally, although it looked like it in live play, Eden didn't jump out of the way to avoid contact from the keeper. He was attempting to chip it over him and missed the ball... 6:07 of the video you are referencing illustrates that perfectly. Blue Armour and Mufassir08 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Colored Sky 1,807 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 9 hours ago, Mustafa said: I'm sorry but Eden is a weird weird player man. I've tried really really hard to understand him but I'm struggling to understand how he can just seem content with not having the ball. And how he doesn't want to be the difference week in week out. We all have doubts over his mentality and on Sunday it was clear as day what he's like. Didn't seem to care too much when he didn't touch the ball in a dangerous area for 10-15 mins. Didn't care too much when he did receive it because -barring one ocassion- he didn't do anything with it. I feel like this season he's been instructed NOT to come deep and pick up the ball like he did in previous seasons, but my lord.... how can you be the main man of the team if you don't show for the ball. I was super dissapointed in his finish after the run.. he had the entire left side of the goal gaping.. it seemed to me that he tried to put it through the keepers legs like he did against De Gea but you could see his not a very good finisher from the way he lost composure and fucked himself up with the touch right before he shot. And then the other 1v1 looooooool. I almost fucking threw my phone at the TV. It's acc confirmed he's a serial pussy. How you can do that when your team is 2-1 down (and the way we conceded the two goals were the most annoying ways possible).. how you can see that and then have a chance to equalize and you just jump out the way????? Fuckkk sake... I think I've lost all hope in him being a top top Ballon D'or winning player if I'm honest. Maybe he's just not as good as we all think he is forreal.. Lol, sit down We're basically Eden Hazard FC yet someone still want to be fickle and jump on the gun after one poor game for his standards (decent by others ofc). Be grateful that we still have chance for top4 if this guy will keep up the form he's in because our options in attack including Moses, Pedro, Willian, Oscar shouldn't ever allow that. BTW. So few commented performance of our Player of The Year which is Willian and not Hazard I remind you. Seriously his standards are so poor that we accept a disgrace of performance that was Swansea ? Our POTY was eclipsed by Moses ffs said no one ever. Mufassir08, Blue Armour and kellzfresh 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Colored Sky 1,807 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 1 hour ago, Bir_CFC said: He didn't have a horrible game. But when you watch him at his best, it's hard to accept a performance like that because it was clear that it could have been a much better game if he was more determined. Wish he had Sanchez's mentality. Dude is always so confident and never shy to force something. Don't think it'll chance now though, it's too late. Still a world class player though. He tried to force a cut-in from the left side and shoot in 86-87 minute which was blocked. So ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 5 minutes ago, Blue Colored Sky said: We're basically Eden Hazard FC yet someone still want to be fickle and jump on the gun after one poor game for his standards (decent by others ofc). Be grateful that we still have chance for top4 if this guy will keep up the form he's in because our options in attack including Moses, Pedro, Willian, Oscar shouldn't ever allow that. BTW. So few commented performance of our Player of The Year which is Willian and not Hazard I remind you. Seriously his standards are so poor that we accept a disgrace of performance that was Swansea ? Our POTY was eclipsed by Moses ffs said no one ever. I think that's part of the problem... He's reached great heights but can't consistently sustain it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Colored Sky 1,807 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 3 minutes ago, Chelsea Legend 11 said: I think that's part of the problem... He's reached great heights but can't consistently sustain it. Eden is far from our problem. Majority of games he's played in I'd say were positive games. Good games. Amazing games. He's not Oscar. But he won't have outstanding performance in every game. Once he has poor game we immediately drop points. That's disgrace for our club that we're so relying on him. Look, his dribbling was way off on Sunday, but his acceleration was there, he was eager, I counted to 5 the times he instigated an action and wanted to receive a ball but there was nothing. We played one combination on Sunday, in the first half, in triangle and Matic only had to pass forward ball and Eden would be through on goal, but nah he passed a bit backward and the move was off. Diego Costa could pass through ball twice to Eden and he would be clear on goal but nothing came. We only have one passer in the team who sits on the bench. Eden's dribbling has to be on point in every game to create some moves because he won't receive anything with the moves he initiates. To illustrate this, look. That's not Swansea but it's what I'm talking about. Eden initiated several moves in that half and should have had a hat-trick for that but he only received one semi-decent ball back and he scored a goal. That's the problem. If he could receive balls on point from the moves he starts, he is 30 goals player. Nothing in the world will convince me otherwise. Suarez/Benzema as his striker partnership would make him deadly. Drogba was 37 years old but he's the best Eden had as his link up play was on point. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTziWaIDgy4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 3 minutes ago, Blue Colored Sky said: Eden is far from our problem. Majority of games he's played in I'd say were positive games. Good games. Amazing games. He's not Oscar. But he won't have outstanding performance in every game. Once he has poor game we immediately drop points. That's disgrace for our club that we're so relying on him. Look, his dribbling was way off on Sunday, but his acceleration was there, he was eager, I counted to 5 the times he instigated an action and wanted to receive a ball but there was nothing. We played one combination on Sunday, in the first half, in triangle and Matic only had to pass forward ball and Eden would be through on goal, but nah he passed a bit backward and the move was off. Diego Costa could pass through ball twice to Eden and he would be clear on goal but nothing came. We only have one passer in the team who sits on the bench. Eden's dribbling has to be on point in every game to create some moves because he won't receive anything with the moves he initiates. To illustrate this, look. That's not Swansea but it's what I'm talking about. Eden initiated several moves in that half and should have had a hat-trick for that but he only received one semi-decent ball back and he scored a goal. That's the problem. If he could receive balls on point from the moves he starts, he is 30 goals player. Nothing in the world will convince me otherwise. Suarez/Benzema as his striker partnership would make him deadly. Drogba was 37 years old but he's the best Eden had as his link up play was on point. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTziWaIDgy4 Not worth rebutting until you get his nutsack out your mouth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Colored Sky 1,807 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 11 minutes ago, Chelsea Legend 11 said: Not worth rebutting until you get his nutsack out your mouth. ? Comment the Tottenham clip I just posted please. And don't answer one liner in the future to the posts because you look like troll. goffus and Essien19 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 4 minutes ago, Blue Colored Sky said: ? Comment the Tottenham clip I just posted please. And don't answer one liner in the future to the posts because you look like troll. Comment on the Tottenham game? *rolls eyes* He was brilliant, the problem with that is we saw that sort of form far too few times last year. And when you highlight his one brilliant game last year you look like a fanboy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Colored Sky 1,807 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 2 hours ago, Chelsea Legend 11 said: Comment on the Tottenham game? *rolls eyes* He was brilliant, the problem with that is we saw that sort of form far too few times last year. And when you highlight his one brilliant game last year you look like a fanboy. I only picked the Tottenham game because I wanted to make a point about the moves he initiates yet nothing comes off them because the next pass is so lame. This video presents it's nicely. 1:01 and 1:37. That's it. And there's usually a few times a match it happens. Anyway, forget it, I don't want to discuss about Eden with you. You were the one that said something like "We are lucky if we'd get 30m for him in the summer". I remember it clearly. I want everyone to see it. Absolutely mental note. Pff. Shame on you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 4 minutes ago, Blue Colored Sky said: I only picked the Tottenham game because I wanted to make a point about the moves he initiates yet nothing comes off them because the next pass is so lame. This video presents it's nicely. 1:01 and 1:37. That's it. And there's usually a few times a match it happens. Anyway, forget it, I don't want to discuss about Eden with you. You were the one that said something like "We are lucky if we'd get 30m for him in the summer". I remember it clearly. I want everyone to see it. Absolutely mental note. Pff. Shame on you. Why don't you look up Hazard vs Porto away or the many times last season he was piss poor and ineffectual? You use clips from the 2nd last game of the season to make a point? LOL... And if you read what I said correctly you would see I said "On current form he wasn't worth more than 30M" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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