Jase 43,479 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 4 hours ago, kellzfresh said: As a creative player, he doesn't have plenty assists or get as much key passes as fabregas, KdB, payet, ozil and other attacking midfielders. But hazard is a different type of creative player who depends mainly on his dribbling and not putting costa through on goal like fabregas, so once the dribbling is low, he won't have his normal outstanding match performance. You aren't wrong but on the other hand, dribbling stats can be deceiving if the players don't make it effective. Hazard could dribble past 3-4 players but if he ended up passing sideways or backwards in non-threatening areas, would you then say he had a good game? Circumstances can also dictate that stats. If he's dropping deep during matches, then he's likely to dribble past players and get those numbers up. But if he's just staying up top, he may not dribble too much because there's less players to beat or there may be space for him to combine with others without having to beat players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 2 hours ago, Jason said: You aren't wrong but on the other hand, dribbling stats can be deceiving if the players don't make it effective. Hazard could dribble past 3-4 players but if he ended up passing sideways or backwards in non-threatening areas, would you then say he had a good game? Circumstances can also dictate that stats. If he's dropping deep during matches, then he's likely to dribble past players and get those numbers up. But if he's just staying up top, he may not dribble too much because there's less players to beat or there may be space for him to combine with others without having to beat players. You're right. The last thing I want is for Hazard to start dribbling aimlessly like Zaha. I always like when he dribbles into the box, which causes confusion and can lead to him cutting inside and shooting, penalties, cutbacks for another to shoot. Anytime hazard has a great game we almost never struggle. And that's why he's our most talented player, we need his consistency or another to chip in with goals and take the pressure off him like Pedro and Willian did in the last games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Unionjack 7,531 Posted January 2, 2017 Popular Post! Share Posted January 2, 2017 Little move that puts Charlie Adam on his arse! Â Cosmin, Hostedenis, Beigl and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Jed 6 Posted January 4, 2017 Popular Post! Share Posted January 4, 2017 dont know if this is the right place, but Eden needs a better song imo. Came up with this based on Come on Eileen by Dexies Midnight Runners - Â Come on Eden, oh you leave em bleedin'Â With your speed, they don't know what they've seen The moves you possess, oh I must confess, Verge on dirty Ah, Come on Eden! Â Feel free to suggest changes to lyrics, but I think the tune works kellzfresh, Unionjack, Last Sicarius and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Jase 43,479 Posted January 4, 2017 Popular Post! Share Posted January 4, 2017 Forget goals. Is Hazard ever going to put in great, consistent performances? Tautvix, FabHazard, Dazzy_Vance and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 7 minutes ago, Jason said: Forget goals. Is Hazard ever going to put in great, consistent performances? The age excuse is slowly disappearing too. He'll be 26 in 3 days. Should be entering his prime now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PANDOOBIE 1 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 1 minute ago, Sir Mikel OBE said: The age excuse is slowly disappearing too. He'll be 26 in 3 days. Should be entering his prime now. I thought he played a good game. Maybe he missed two ( one for sure ) chances but he played his heart out and was consistently our one and only threat. + I think he got slightly injured. Saw him walking funny and touching his leg multiple times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmk108 1,186 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, PANDOOBIE said: I thought he played a good game. Maybe he missed two ( one for sure ) chances but he played his heart out and was consistently our one and only threat. + I think he got slightly injured. Saw him walking funny and touching his leg multiple times. Happened when he tried to control the ball when Lloris was out of goal. He went for the ball, pulled out and started limping and grabbing his groin area. It seems to keep giving him problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 If Hazard played for a better team (i.e a team with more technical players and was comfortable on the ball), he won't have to play with scraps in these sort of games. We all know it. This side isn't giving him a platform to express his ability.  It's pretty obvious. Hazard, Pedro and Willian all suffer when Fabregas is not playing right now. And it's not just about Fabregas. The entire XI we started with today severly lacks technical quality. For those who watch a lot of other big teams in other leagues, the technical deficiencies in this team is obvious. LondonsFinest, Styles and blues.bridge 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Embarrassing corners. Pretty pathetic that he can't even beat the first man. No more Hazard corners ever again please. Missed a big chance that could have changed the game. Average game at best. Unionjack, TheIceMan and Blue-in-me-Veins 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,051 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Our two best chances fell to him and he failed to hit the target on both occasions. Two off games is worrying. Unionjack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustafa 885 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 am I the only one who is a bit bored of this lad? yes he's class asf but its been 5 seasons and he still has the same problems in his game.  please just take him off corners until he learns how to properly strike the ball Roquila 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volfan89 97 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Mustafa said: am I the only one who is a bit bored of this lad? yes he's class asf but its been 5 seasons and he still has the same problems in his game.  please just take him off corners until he learns how to properly strike the ball Bored? Bored?! Jesus Christ, yeah lets just ship him off. Clearly he's trash and not entertaining in the slightest. Y'all are always some salty little bitches after we lose. Take a couple Xanax and chill out. the wes, manpe, sLOVEnian Blue and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustafa 885 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 10 minutes ago, volfan89 said: Bored? Bored?! Jesus Christ, yeah lets just ship him off. Clearly he's trash and not entertaining in the slightest. Y'all are always some salty little bitches after we lose. Take a couple Xanax and chill out. lol relax mate.. no one said ship him off or anything. He's by far our most talented baller and we're quite shit without him but he's not quite the world conquering, ballon d'or winning, knight and shining armor we thought he could become is he? It's been 5 seasons and he is still yet to develop any ruthlessness or consistency to his game. We get a whole lot of 7/10 performances with Eden. But we get a 9/10 every blue moon it seems. The reason I said i'm bored of him is because we've seen the same passage of play with him a thousand times over. He dribbles and sneaks his way around players so gracefully, so beautifully but as soon as he gets to within 20 yards of the opposition's goal.. we see all the flaws to his game.His decision making is so so bad. I don't know whether it is because he's a genuinely just te kindest most giving player in the world... but fuckkkk me, I dont think there's been a game this season and last where I hadn't thought JUST GO! Take them on you cunt. And he doesn't. For instance, if you remember towards the end of the match he turned Wanyama so beautifully and left him on his arse... he was faced with one or two Spurs defenders who stood at the edge of the box. I'm screamingggg juss shoot or even take them on ffs.. cuz tbh it is the dying minutes of a game that is already lost, really and truly who cares if you pop a shot and it goes into row Z or is blocked by Eric Dier. But no... Eden does what he always does. He went for a one two that he KNOWS he won't get back.  That same passage of play happens week in week out. Does he not juss say fuck it sometimes?? Like seriously, you can only play a back flick around the corner to Costa and not get the return pass that will set you through on goal sooo many times to the point where your like fuck it mate.. I'll try my luck. Maybe its that or maybe its that he, deep down KNOWS that he cannot strike a ball properly. Literally, his shooting technique is so so bad for a player of elite quality. He can barely get the ball off the fucking ground fffsss. Look at his corners, literally the same shit every time. I feel bad for the CBs who run 50 yards to come into the box and Eden puts in a cross that almost always hits the first man. And to top it all off, in the last few weeks, I've noticed that his final pass isn't the best.  So idk man.. maybe it is juss me and maybe a salty cunt but I watch Eden closely because players of his ilk are what football is all about. Players who glide across the pitch, the graceful cunts who juss play pure football. That's Eden and I love watching him play but I also want to see him at the top of game. As a Chelsea fan and an Eden fan, I'd be doing myself an injustice if i watched 5 years of his playing for us and tried to say he's on his way to win a Ballon D'or or he's top 2/3/4/5 in the world. He's not. He has the talent to, yes. But in his 5th season at the club... I can truthfully conclude that.. from the halfway line to the edge of the penalty box, Eden Hazard is a KING. He's on par with Messi. After that, he's as average as they come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonsFinest 692 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 We do not deserve this guy. Being made to play with donkeys with a slow football brain and lack of technical ability. The mere fact people are slating our only creative focal from last night's game is killing me.  Why I am susprised, though? We don't want James, so yeah, better replace Hazard with Berahino. Then we could really be a force. And he'd come on a free. blues.bridge 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 24 minutes ago, LondonsFinest said: Being made to play with donkeys with a slow football brain and lack of technical ability That is a valid point, but only till a certain extent IMO. It can't be used to justify of how he goes from being very good in one game to being very ineffective or quiet the next (e.g the Bournemouth and Stoke games last week). We aren't great on the technical side of things but we aren't the worst either. People criticized Gary Neville when he said but if Hazard truly wants to be one of the greats in football, then he needs to do it week in week out. El P. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MefiX19 1,092 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 I love how people care more about Hazard's career than about future of our club. Unionjack and Roquila 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonsFinest 692 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Jason said: That is a valid point, but only till a certain extent IMO. It can't be used to justify of how he goes from being very good in one game to being very ineffective or quiet the next (e.g the Bournemouth and Stoke games last week). We aren't great on the technical side of things but we aren't the worst either. People criticized Gary Neville when he said but if Hazard truly wants to be one of the greats in football, then he needs to do it week in week out. While I agree, I can hold my hands and say he wasn't great at some points of our season, BUT in these big games he tries so hard to actually do something. The epitoment of his troubles was when Pedro twice tried to put a through ball, one when he was vs Toby and the second being way off target. Add to that, Alonso being poor attacking wise, Matic being able to play the odd pass and Costa not having a great game and it was summed up. Hazard isn't to blame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Weckerz 3,781 Posted January 5, 2017 Popular Post! Share Posted January 5, 2017 You won't realize what we have until he leaves, 'bored' of the most talented player this club ever had. Crazy comment. the wes, Fernando, Belgiannutt and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivanman 1 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Hazard said that Juan mata was only man he missed the most in our team. I wonder why? Maybe because that magic ability to pass 🤔Poslano sa mog D5803 koristeći Tapatalk Mustafa 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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