Spike 12,049 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 So you are only making cheap conjectures. AGAIN!It seems just like that Fulham Broadway guy you get pissed when someone just don't accept shallow arguments.ps: I had you on my ignore list, but somehow, sadly and I can read your posts again. Weird.It wasn't a shallow argument or conjecture at all, it was a plain as day fact, L'equipe article directly references instagram. Where is the conjecture in that? In fact if you took a little time yourself, you would have come to the same conclusion. You even had the audacity to assume about my 'assumption' and criticise me for it. It isn't my job to spoon feed you sources, but I did so anyway and when I did you had nothing to say except a dig at me.P.S If I were pissed you'd be banned. So, no I'm not pissed as this is a forum and hardly something to get as worked up about. Sorry to disappoint you. Blue-in-me-Veins 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DANILA 290 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 I think mourihno's going to be sacked before hazard leaves. I believe roman values eden over mourihno at this point in time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 441 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Madrid has been playing some shit football with rafa as manager... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted October 21, 2015 Author Share Posted October 21, 2015 If I was hazard and Jose was still here, I would go to either United or PSG.Hazard might not start on the big 3 in europe, but I'm sure psg/united he would. Also, if David Silva leaves City. UnitedHazard-Depay-MaritalCitySterling-Hazard-KDBPSGHazard-Cavani-Lucasthere's no chance in hell chelsea would sell hazard to utd or city psg is more likely were he will go till Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supporter 3,088 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 IMO Hazard would be very wrong if he thought that all his problems this season are due to Jose. To me Eden has to play every game because he is our best player and one of the best players in the world among the mortals (no Messi or Ronaldo) but he has to make self-criticism and assume that his performance is not being good.This year Eden should take the final step to become in one of the greatest players in the world as a consolidated player, not as a mere promise. And maybe that scares him and he is blocked since the beginning of the season.I think what is happening with Eden Hazard is not the same as Juan Mata and KDB. Mainly because Eden Hazard is one of the best in the world and Jose will not throw stones at his own roof.With Real Madrid Jose had problems with Cristiano Ronaldo, a very big problems, but Jose is not stupid and Cristiano Ronaldocontinued playing in the starting eleven with Real MadridBut Cristiano Ronaldo was punished by Jose in a couple of games as has happened with Hazard. IMO is just a warning to motivate Eden.Eden Hazard is a young player and he has to take advantage of this warning and play every game as if it were the last and "close the mouth" of Jose. And Jose is a great motivator and he knows what he is doing.I am quite sure that in the next games Eden will be in our starting eleven and gradually we will come back to restore normalcy with Eden as our main player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Clockwork 1,794 Posted October 21, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted October 21, 2015 Well, you don't see or hear the fans boo Ramires in the stadium or the local media run a poll asking if Ramires should be sold etc, do you? Bale isn't perfect (he's not even a bad player) but he was the one who scored the decisive goal in the Copa del Rey and Champions League finals two seasons ago but despite that, anything little thing he doesn't do right, the fans and media are immediately on his back. It's farcical what goes on at Real Madrid really.Chelsea+English fans are different from Real and Spain supporters though. English fans have soft spot for hard working players like Ramires, while Spanish fans have a soft spot for graceful players. Bale is neither which makes it worse lol. For a player that played LB he is dreadful in defending and tracking back.Just like Madrid supporters couldn't tolerate Mourinho conservative/ park the bus tactics against better opposition, Chelsea fans do not care and accept such tactics. There is a difference in culture.As I said Bale starting on a regular basis frustrated Madrid fans more then his form. I don't think Madrid frustration level would have reached that high with Bale if Carlo had benched him for Isco a fan fave. 11Drogba, Reddish-Blue, marketing media pet and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Jase 43,479 Posted October 21, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted October 21, 2015 Chelsea+English fans are different from Real and Spain supporters though. English fans have soft spot for hard working players like Ramires, while Spanish fans have a soft spot for graceful players. Bale is neither which makes it worse lol. For a player that played LB he is dreadful in defending and tracking back.Just like Madrid supporters couldn't tolerate Mourinho conservative/ park the bus tactics against better opposition, Chelsea fans do not care and accept such tactics. There is a difference in culture.As I said Bale starting on a regular basis frustrated Madrid fans more then his form.Even if there is a difference in culture, you cannot deny that Real Madrid fans are one of the most - if not the most - fickle bunch of supporters in the world. Their treatment of the players, never mind Bale, is nothing short of embarrassing. Clockwork, Essien19, DYC. and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 It wasn't a shallow argument or conjecture at all, it was a plain as day fact, L'equipe article directly references instagram. Where is the conjecture in that? In fact if you took a little time yourself, you would have come to the same conclusion. You even had the audacity to assume about my 'assumption' and criticise me for it. It isn't my job to spoon feed you sources, but I did so anyway and when I did you had nothing to say except a dig at me.P.S If I were pissed you'd be banned. So, no I'm not pissed as this is a forum and hardly something to get as worked up about. Sorry to disappoint you.That was an assumption. End of it. The fact Lequipe mentioned the instagram doesn't mean the article was based on the instagram thing.There is nothing audacious in critictizing your posts and assuming you are saying this or that, and yea, you might say I did a dig at you since you just said in the same post that my obession is getting tiresome, when I'm just quoting your posts to ask your questions, just like you asked my days ago about how I would improve Hazard's performances.One final word: if this forum is getting to the point an Administrator can just ban another member just because he got pissed, feel free to ban me, since this is not the forum I joined 5 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,374 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 They'd need to get rid of TWO top players in order for it to make sense for Hazard to go there. Cant imagine he's the type that would want to go and not start every game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 That was an assumption. End of it. The fact Lequipe mentioned the instagram doesn't mean the article was based on the instagram thing.There is nothing audacious in critictizing your posts and assuming you are saying this or that, and yea, you might say I did a dig at you since you just said in the same post that my obession is getting tiresome, when I'm just quoting your posts to ask your questions, just like you asked my days ago about how I would improve Hazard's performances.One final word: if this forum is getting to the point an Administrator can just ban another member just because he got pissed, feel free to ban me, since this is not the forum I joined 5 years ago.Yet it wasn't an assumption end of it. There were no other sources. End of it.Leave then, save me the trouble. I won't lose any sleep if if you log off and never return; it is all the same to me. Hell, if you really don't like it here (why you would keep posting I don't understand), than just ask for the coup de grace.That is the last of it, now let's stop this disgrace and get back on topic. End of it. Pacquiao 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid Angel 2,130 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 He is not leaving because he is getting benched. He is leaving because he wants to be given freedom and play Football.The only manager who can get away with not building a team around Hazard who is one of the top 5 players in the world is Mourinho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted October 21, 2015 Author Share Posted October 21, 2015 Hazard may burnout under manager Jose Mourinho, fears Belgium's Marc Wilmotshttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/chelsea/11946284/Chelsea-midfielder-Eden-Hazard-may-burnout-under-manager-Jose-Mourinho-says-Belgiums-Marc-Wilmots.html i never like that cunt wilmots he always has something to say bad about chelsea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 People are so naive in football.Hazard wants to go play for Real like every player does - and the reason is money.Real is the highest paying football club in the world, which makes them very attractive to any professional player.however, whether he stays... goes... that involves other variables. Most likely related on how much Real wants him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted October 21, 2015 Author Share Posted October 21, 2015 Marc Wilmots is increasingly concerned about Hazard burning out at Chelsea and would welcome him moving to the Bernabeu.(Daily Mirror) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myself 793 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Yet it wasn't an assumption end of it. There were no other sources. End of it.Leave then, save me the trouble. I won't lose any sleep if if you log off and never return; it is all the same to me. Hell, if you really don't like it here (why you would keep posting I don't understand), than just ask for the coup de grace.What's wrong? You're supposed to be helping make the community less toxic, not trying to drive senior members away from the forum! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 What's wrong? You're supposed to be helping make the community less toxic, not trying to drive senior members away from the forum!I'm not driving him away. Everything he does is his choice. Senior or new, it doesn't matter, if he doesn't like it here, why spend time here? If anything a member that doesn't want to be here, is more toxic than anything else, no? I'm fine if he stays, I'm fine if he goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,754 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 It'd be sad to see him go but he will be a far better player under a more offensive manager. I don't think he will ever progress under Mou.Well if its Madrid he's going, hes hardly going to be playing for a more offensive manager is he Oscar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon1991 233 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 People are so naive in football.Hazard wants to go play for Real like every player does - and the reason is money.Real is the highest paying football club in the world, which makes them very attractive to any professional player.however, whether he stays... goes... that involves other variables. Most likely related on how much Real wants him. They want to go to Real Madrid for prestige, not money. Of course they are well paid, but he's already making a shitload of money, do you really think that would be the main reason he'd want to leave? I don't think so. MrBlueGuy and Oscar 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,754 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 He is not leaving because he is getting benched. He is leaving because he wants to be given freedom and play Football..He gets more freedom here under Mou than he ever would under Benitez, Schurrle pointed out that the other AM were sacrafised to give Eden a freeish role.Rafa choose Mata over Eden for the main man, he will hardly get the nod ahead of Ronaldo. Blue Colored Sky 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Well if its Madrid he's going, hes hardly going to be playing for a more offensive manager is he FSW will be sacked in the near future, everyone can see it will happen unless he wins La Liga/CL every year and that just isn't possible even if he got a football all time legend squad there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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