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[Sheva. 5,373]

I remember some people being against us signing Falcao, because he was playing in the Portuguese league, look how he's done at Atletico? close to 40 goals this season.

Oh yeah, la liga is shit too right? that would explain Aguero scoring more in the PL than he did over there?

[Kojo 4,676]

Does that mean I am given a spot in your trophy cabinet of beloved posters, alongside Henri and BlueLyon?

Or are you trolling?

Never ever think you can get on there level, forget it Cap just forget it.

[capriccioso 2,545]

Irrelevant in your case when the discussion in sending a hasbeen to those leagues (Portugal, Nether) and they will score loads.

Shall i bring up Ronaldo?

Nani?

Queresma?

Carvalho?

Falcao?

Irrelevant argument to support your claim in how sending a player like Heskey (LMAO) and he will perform better

Heskey will be a goal every other game player in those countries.

Carvalho is a defender, as I have already stated before, defenders are a different kettle of fish. If there is a defender that stands out in Portugal, he is certain to be world class. To even look competent when you're surrounded by a million Bosingwa's is an achievement.

Quaresma? Why thank you for adding another example of players who can't hack it once they leave.

Nani and Ronaldo? Teenagers when they left. 5 more years in Portugal and they may have given Eusebio's scoring records a run for their money.

Falcao? While he has still been excellent at Atletico Madrid, his numbers have declined from his Portugal days.

Once again, please read my post before jumping to conclusions. I never said Heskey will be better than Hulk in Portugal. I said he would be a far better player in Portugal than he has been in England.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

It doesnt matter where you play, if you are class, you will rock any league.

Hulk is great and will give us boost in attack, if Hulk wont, I guess there is no better guarantee our next winger will be good. Besides there are not many top class wingers out there linked with us and in fact Hulk is our only possible big class winger we can get.

He is fantastic winger who plays good on big matches. And he is just about to join us.

[Kojo 4,676]

It doesnt matter where you play, if you are class, you will rock any league.

Hulk is great and will give us boost in attack, if Hulk wont, I guess there is no better guarantee our next winger will be good. Besides there are not many top class wingers out there linked with us and in fact Hulk is our only possible big class winger we can get.

He is fantastic winger who plays good on big matches. And he is just about to join us.

Hulk is BEAST!!!!!!!

[BlueLyon 9,359]

I remember some people being against us signing Falcao, because he was playing in the Portuguese league, look how he's done at Atletico? close to 40 goals this season.

Oh yeah, la liga is shit too right? that would explain Aguero scoring more in the PL than he did over there?

La liga is attractive but has bad defence.

Just take that you play only four big games a season against Barca and real and even they have shit defence.

Here in prem, fucking stoke has better defence than any la liga team (bit harsh, but...)

The only real positive thing about Hulk in prem is that he is realy strong and quick, somone who will adopt easy to english style. But I doubt he will score more goals, maybe more assists but not more goals, unless whole our team, consisted of great players will put him level higher.

[Santiago. 1,500]

Heskey will be a goal every other game player in those countries.

Carvalho is a defender, as I have already stated before, defenders are a different kettle of fish. If there is a defender that stands out in Portugal, he is certain to be world class. To even look competent when you're surrounded by a million Bosingwa's is an achievement.

Quaresma? Why thank you for adding another example of players who can't hack it once they leave.

Nani and Ronaldo? Teenagers when they left. 5 more years in Portugal and they may have given Eusebio's scoring records a run for their money.

Once again, please read my post before jumping to conclusions. I never said Heskey will be better than Hulk in Portugal. I said he would be a far better player in Portugal than he has been in England.

First, Who claimed Heskey would be better than Hulk if went to Portugal?

And Defenders who were hyped up in Portugal, Carvahlo, Coentrao, Ferreria, Silva, etc, they were labeled world class in Portugal. Those mentioned, are they not still World Class after their departure? If anything, their prestige got higher.

Falcao is a prime example of his his talent just emerged in his first year in La Liga

Everything stated still does not in the slightest support your argument in how sending a mediocre player to those leagues will make them perform better.

[capriccioso 2,545]

25-30% discount on his current numbers is likely what we'll get.

57 and 42 in 95, was it? We'll probably get around 40 goals and 30 assists in 100 appearances from him. While that is a good return, is it worth 36 million?

[capriccioso 2,545]

First, Who claimed Heskey would be better than Hulk if went to Portugal?

And Defenders who were hyped up in Portugal, Carvahlo, Coentrao, Ferreria, Silva, etc, they were labeled world class in Portugal. Those mentioned, are they not still World Class after their departure? If anything, their prestige got higher.

Falcao is a prime example of his his talent just emerged in his first year in La Liga

Everything stated still does not in the slightest support your argument in how sending a mediocre player to those leagues will make them perform better.

The statistics do. Average players are brilliant in Portugal. Once they leave they perform significantly worse. What reason is there for it not to work the other way?

[Henrique 9,133]

If we do indeed sign him, anyone else have a feeling Sturridge will leave? Because I certainly do.

I think he is leaving regardless Hulk coming or not. It was really strange how RDM dropped the guy. Hulk is a winger, Sturridge already said he doesnt want to play in such position.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

I think he is leaving regardless Hulk coming or not. It was really strange how RDM dropped the guy. Hulk is a winger, Sturridge already said he doesnt want to play in such position.

We'll not really. He's maintained numerous times, he's 'just happy to be playing' wherever.

[Santiago. 1,500]

The statistics do. Average players are brilliant in Portugal. Once they leave they perform significantly worse.

Figo laughs at your statistics

[Ramzi 233]

Aren't we also to get Willian and Stevan Jovetic??

----------Torres/Studge/Jovetic---------

Marin/KDB---Mata/Jovetic/Marin-----Hulk/Willian

[capriccioso 2,545]

Figo laughs at your statistics

Sir Benedict McCarthy laughs at Figo.

For every case like Figo there are 5 like McCarthy.

[Henrique 9,133]

We'll not really. He's maintained numerous times, he's 'just happy to be playing' wherever.

Yeah, but he is not playing.

[Strike 7,527]

They are initially the 'big 3', as we have 'the big 4'

now the premier league has 6-7 teams that could challenge for the title. upon that teams like norwich, swansea are making the whole of mid-table progress while the relegation candidates have shown that even they can beat the big boys. u just dont see that throughout all the teams in portugal and that's why i feel u cant judge strikers just on stats from the portuguese league

[Strike 7,527]

Most of the players who have come to us from the Portuguese league in recent years have succeeded at Chelsea and on the other hand Torres who had been banging goals in the Premier League for many years prior to his move has done fuck all so I fail to see your point. Of course he probably wouldn't be able to keep up with his stats at Porto but very few people on Earth could...

Torres was cuckoo before joining chelsea tbf

[capriccioso 2,545]

now the premier league has 6-7 teams that could challenge for the title. upon that teams like norwich, swansea are making the whole of mid-table progress while the relegation candidates have shown that even they can beat the big boys. u just dont see that throughout all the teams in portugal and that's why i feel u cant judge strikers just on stats from the portuguese league

Another brilliant point. Just like when the big two Spanish clubs come to visit, teams outside Porto, Sporting CP, Benfica and Braga roll over and accept that they're going to lose 4-0 and don't even bother making a fight of it. With that into account, I say except in extreme cases, the general rule of thumb for any attacking statistic from the Portuguese league is a discount of 30-40% to give us a more realistic amount of rough knowledge from which we deduce our expectations of a player.

[Santiago. 1,500]

Sir Benedict McCarthy laughs at Figo.

For every case like Figo there are 5 like McCarthy.

[Henrique 9,133]

now the premier league has 6-7 teams that could challenge for the title. upon that teams like norwich, swansea are making the whole of mid-table progress while the relegation candidates have shown that even they can beat the big boys. u just dont see that throughout all the teams in portugal and that's why i feel u cant judge strikers just on stats from the portuguese league

No. This season there was 2 teams that could challenge, and right now I think besides Manchester clubs, only Chelsea can challenger for big trophies next 2 or 3 seasons. It was a improvement, because in last 7 or 8 years it was only 2 teams (Chelsea or Arsenal and then Chelsea or Manchester), and in some seasons it was a one horse race.

Liverpool never really challenged for the trophy in past years, even in 2008/2009 season only a fool would believe they could really win it, and after 2004/2005 season Arsenal never challeged for it.

I dont know how you came with 7 clubs, because Newcastle, Spurs, Arsenal and Liverpool just can't callenger for the trophy.