KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 I'm dissapointed that we are paying £35 Million + for Hulk. We should have stuck to our £30 Million valuation... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane 2,275 Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 No, but to expect him to guide us to a championship was downright insanity Like it or not, we didnt exactly set the world alight with our football this season. The trophies we won were down the grit and determination of the old guard who knew this was probably their last realistic shot...What Lampard and Terry bring to the team is irreplaceable. THis isn't FIFA where you can just sell them and because a player has a better overall your team will be better, It takes time, and Lampard has reborn himself as a deep lying playmaker which he done brilliantly.Look at Man United, Scholes was one of their standout players towards the end of the season. Ryan Giggs has been doing it for years now. They lost the league on GD ffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane 2,275 Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Can we just give them £4m, Kalou and Ferriera? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tchelolima 8 Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Me too, it's going to start at 1:00am over here, i think i'll stay up and watch. BRASIL: Rafael Cabral; Danilo, Thiago Silva, Juan, Marcelo; Sandro, Rômulo, Oscar; Neymar, Hulk, Leandro Damião. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tchelolima 8 Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Can we just give them £4m, Kalou and Ferriera? ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah for hulks fingers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Anyone got a stream for that brazil game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nedy08 27 Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Anyone got a stream for that brazil game?http://www.firstrowsports.eu/watch/125041/1/watch-usa-vs-brazil.htmlOne of the best streaming sites. You should bookmark it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Don't mind whether we get Hulk or not, but it looks like we are, so I guess I'll be staying up for this game! Already so tired though Hope he gets a hat-trick to make this worthwhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chealsist 23 Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 i thin 50-60 mln is too much for Hulk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 I'm dissapointed that we are paying £35 Million + for Hulk. We should have stuck to our £30 Million valuation...I can understand the argument about whether he will be worth the money but at the end of the day does it really matter?Roman, Gourlay and the rest of the board know better than us what the finances look like, what we need to do to keep within the FFP rules, etc. Our Champs League win has clearly swelled the coffers, and to be honest if we were going to buy two 'marquee' players this summer available on the market I would have snapped your hands off for Hazard and Hulk.The facts are we clearly want the player and it is better to compromise and get the player signed up early. If City, Real, etc were to come in for him his price would be £40m+ and then we would be looking at having to pay a higher transfer fee and probably higher wages to get him.I would rather us spend the extra £5m and get the man we want rather than a player within that original price range but isn't deemed as good. IMO Hulk and Hazard will be well worth their transfer fees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bababoom 4,478 Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 BRASIL: Rafael Cabral; Danilo, Thiago Silva, Juan, Marcelo; Sandro, Rômulo, Oscar; Neymar, Hulk, Leandro Damião.I'm looking forward to it, should be a good match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorontoChelsea 4,064 Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 hulk scored 52 goals in 96 matches in portuguese league!And Benni McCarthy 45 goals in 85 games in Portugal and Oscar Cardoza has scored 87 goals in 133 games in Portugal. Lima had 20 goals and 7 assists this season.The Portuguese league has two or three good teams but if you play on Porto or Benfica, the vast majority of your competition is against sides that would be in the Championship or League 1 in England. I mean, Porto has only lost 1 game in the last 2 years. This is why it's very difficult to take statistics from lesser leagues and apply them to the Premiership. This is why I don't understand how anybody can claim that Hulk is anything approaching a world class player. Hulk has never had any success in Europe or in international tournaments so this "he's a world-class player" is gleaned entirely from him dominating poor competition. Look at the Portuguese league player of the year before Hulk. David Luiz, Bruno Alvez, Lisandro Lopez, Simao Sabrosa, and Ricardo Quiersma. That's the best of the Portuguese league. Luiz was a dominant defender in Portugual. He's struggled a fair bit at Chelsea. None of this is to say that Hulk won't be terrific. It's absolutely possible, but it's a ridiculous amount of money to spend on a player we don't need who has never accomplished anything at a high level. It's possible, he'll be terrific, but it's also possible that he's not good enough to succeed in England. Sergio Aguero cost in this range and he was 23, had 4 excellent years in Spain and had success in Europe and had played regularly with some success for Argentina. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tchelolima 8 Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Anyone got a stream for that brazil game?http://lycee-maroc01.topgoo.net/t33473-topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Never fails to amaze me how fickle football fans are, had drogba not carried us to the two finals we would've probably sat next season watching channel 5. Not trying to put a downer on things btw, just stating how easily football fans can get carried away. Lampard IS past it, so is Terry, whether you like it or not...Very big difference between being past your prime (which Lampard indeed is) and past it (which he clearly is not) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucasRiver 31 Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 i hope Hulk had a hattrick tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Before Hulk we need a midfielder and a RB. Of course if Hulk did sign, I wouldn't be exactly miserable over it, on the contrary, I would be over the moon. But it would feel like a luxury signing now. If we had Hazard and Hulk on wings, then our attack would be very potent from each side, but with Ramires for example you know that would be our weaker side offensively. I would love the attacking diversity and unpredictability. I could not say no to the big green man... he could also effectively cover for CF position, eliminating the need for another striker as well as putting the winger issue to bed once and for all.I really don't know where that would leave the likes of Sturridge and Ramires but fuck me, I'll leave this problem to the manager, I want to see him play for us. I'm a greedy bitch I know United have to pick from a pool including Young, Nani, Park, Valencia, Rooney, Welbeck, Hernandez, Berbatov. Regardless if they let players go they are looking likely to buy Kagawa and Gaitan to be added to that group. Ferguson does fine keeping players both fresh and happy with the games they're playing.Injuries over the past couple of seasons have seriously depleted us and if we are to make a consistent fight at the league title, aswell as competing in other competitions we must have strength in depth within our squad. In all likelihood Drogba, Kalou and Malouda will all go, so if we were to bring in Marin, Hazard and Hulk we aren't on the face of it actually bulking up our squad. But it will be much more packed with quality.I would love Chelsea to sign both of these players! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tchelolima 8 Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwxS1RTdfJo hulk vs david luiz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themightyblue 443 Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Just for the record, these figures being thrown around by the media here are probably all bullshit. They don't have a clue whats going on in terms of the negotiations and are doing it based on pure guesswork as they'd have no means of finding out especially as we've become so secretive with our transfers. No need to worry about fee, i'm sure the board will do whats best for the club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sideshow Luiz 2,310 Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Cant believe how no one on here seems to think we need a good central midfielder. Playing lampard is like flagging a dead horse...Cant believe how no one on here seems to think we need a good central midfielder. Playing lampard is like flagging a dead horse...I don't think we need a good CM because we have a lot of rotation options from there IMO. 2 of Mikel, Lamps, Ramires, Essien, Miereles, Romeu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
November33rd 84 Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 It's amazing how everybody on here knows how much we are paying for Hulk when the people doing the negotiations haven't even finalized a deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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