David Luiz

[YouNameIt 1,511]

Do you have the intelligence to post anything besides insults (safe behind your keyboard of course) - in what way am I wrong? Does Mourinho view Luiz as a defender? Is he a £20 million+ midfielder?

Clown. In fact having a look through your recent posts and you seem to do nothing but insult members (in boring, unimaginative, repetitive ways). You don't add to discussions, you don't contribute meaningful thoughts and you seem like a very mean-spirited individual.

You are, Im sure, refering to the fact that DL hasnt played as CB lately.

The reason is simple. Mourinho isnt a man who does drastic changes to his team...when its not needed. JT+GC has worked REALLY well. Plus with the fact that we've needed someone else when we dont have Matic in the DM made Luiz a natural choice there.

To answer your question: DL is worth much more than 20m. He is very versitile and can play well both as CB and DM.

Anyone who doesnt rate him above 20m is simply clueless. That is not an insult against you, its a fact stated. If you take offense by that, then cry me a river.

[lionsden 4,689]

I will sell him for £25m+ then use that money to upgrade the CM position and we already have Cahill,JT,Ivanovic,Zouma,Kalas and Omeruo for the CB position. efficient use of resources is vital in these day and age.

[The only place to be 11,313]

You are, Im sure, refering to the fact that DL hasnt played as CB lately.

Lately - about 6 months? And when he did have to play him he looked poor against Newcastle and couldn't mark Anichebe against West Brom.

The reason is simple. Mourinho isnt a man who does drastic changes to his team...when its not needed. JT+GC has worked REALLY well. Plus with the fact that we've needed someone else when we dont have Matic in the DM made Luiz a natural choice there.

Mourinho also doesn't pick defenders he can't trust. He's dropped Luiz twice and hasn't picked him as a defender if he hasn't had to since November.

To answer your question: DL is worth much more than 20m. He is very versitile and can play well both as CB and DM.

He can play ok as a DM, but is used only sporadically. If Matic hadn't had been cup-tied his minutes would've been even less so you're left with a guy Jose don't trust as a defender and uses every now and then as a midfielder. Essentially a bit-part player who other teams value at about £25 million.

Anyone who doesnt rate him above 20m is simply clueless. That is not an insult against you, its a fact stated. If you take offense by that, then cry me a river.

You can't offend me. The first time I noticed you on this site it was when we were playing Leeds away in a cup game and you were hoping we'd lose - that type of 'fan' isn't capable of offending me. What I will say is that anyone who can't see the logic of cashing in on a CB who isn't a Mourinho CB and a midfielder who isn't really a midfielder, when we have holes to plug elsewhere and younger alternatives coming through, is utterly clueless about the intricacies and realities of modern football.

[Tomo 21,733]

Seriously.. am I the only person here who thinks that selling David is a ridiculous idea!?

Him and Matic at CDM would be solid. Yes he can be cavalier at times going forward, but his tenacity mixed in with his grit in challenges makes him a player you need in midfield. To give the team that extra encouragement. Probably Matic is the only player who can match that. Hence the reason why both of them as a defensive unit in midfield would be ideal!

Ramires is the one we need to say goodbye to!!

The thing is Luiz is good in CM with Matic but say god for bid Matic gets a long lay off? Luiz isn't any where near as comfortable with Lamps and his partnership with Rami is a ticking time bomb.

[YouNameIt 1,511]

Lately - about 6 months? And when he did have to play him he looked poor against Newcastle and couldn't mark Anichebe against West Brom.

Mourinho also doesn't pick defenders he can't trust. He's dropped Luiz twice and hasn't picked him as a defender if he hasn't had to since November.

He can play ok as a DM, but is used only sporadically. If Matic hadn't had been cup-tied his minutes would've been even less so you're left with a guy Jose don't trust as a defender and uses every now and then as a midfielder. Essentially a bit-part player who other teams value at about £25 million.

You can't offend me. The first time I noticed you on this site it was when we were playing Leeds away in a cup game and you were hoping we'd lose - that type of 'fan' isn't capable of offending me. What I will say is that anyone who can't see the logic of cashing in on a CB who isn't a Mourinho CB and a midfielder who isn't really a midfielder, when we have holes to plug elsewhere and younger alternatives coming through, is utterly clueless about the intricacies and realities of modern football.

You are so narrowminded. Do you think we can play the same starting 11 every fucking game or what?

You discust me. You cannot see or think further than your own nose.

Luiz wont be sold. And if he is, anything below 30m is a really lousy deal.

[The only place to be 11,313]

You are so narrowminded. Do you think we can play the same starting 11 every fucking game or what?

No. We absolutely need to rotate which is why we need CBs that Jose can trust - not David Luiz.

Luiz wont be sold.

Wow, that's a strong position to take and I admire your unwavering faith in your analytical skills and....oh wait, there's more .

And if he is,

Oh....right....this is awkward. Um....

[LDN Blue 7,903]

Oh....right....this is awkward. Um....

[kc_blue 265]

For the right money he could and should be definitely moved on. For me the latest reported offer from Barca is not the right money needed to justify moving him on. He isn't first choice at any position at the moment but he does provide quality depth and value to the squad.

[Fernando 6,484]

The thing is Luiz is good in CM with Matic but say god for bid Matic gets a long lay off? Luiz isn't any where near as comfortable with Lamps and his partnership with Rami is a ticking time bomb.

Lamps should not even be in this equation anymore.

Ramires why does Mourinho like him so much? He offers nothing to our attack.

At least DL offers more.

So it will be dumb to get rid of David Luiz, if players like Mikel and Ramires are still here.

I said it before, it's only good business if we use the money to buy someone better.

Or if we promote from within, but I'm not holding my breath for that. Many managers have come and go promising to promote youth.

[robsblubot 3,529]

This is all so relative.

Yes, Mourinho does not trust Luiz because in his system with deep defenders who don't need really to participate in the midfield actions, David Luiz is not only uncomfortable, but also wasted. That's why I've always said he should leave because even though Jose has found a way to use him (thats what top managers do) Luiz is not fully utilized at Chelsea right now. It's really about either keeping Jose or Luiz. I am not a Mourinho fan, because although I consider him a top manager, there are others who play in a more appealing style (achieving as much). However, Jose is one of them (top ones) and we do have him; so we ought to keep him esp because of his connection with the club.

I can certainly see Luiz becoming a far bigger nuisance when playing against us though. I can certainly see him winning those 50/50 and driving his side forward as a defender/midfielder when playing against us in the CL. The exact same thing hes done against Arsenal, Liverpool, and City.

Still, like I said, I think he will be sold and it will be the right move for all involved. As long as he is NOT sold to another English club! Reckon he'd be a good fit for some English clubs who notoriously play a high defense line...

[iceman 329]

[The Skipper 20,593]

Is Luiz dating Sharapova or something?

[didierforever 7,349]

the fuck??? grigir dimitrov gonna be mad...

[Nike 373]

Is Luiz dating Sharapova or something?

NIKE.

[ephreak 42]

RUMOUR: According to reliable Brazilian Lancenet!, David Luiz will be announced as a Barcelona player after the World Cup.

[Severinb 309]

@BrazilStats: PSG coach Laurent Blanc has openly confirmed to TF1 that his club is interested in signing Chelsea duo David Luiz, and Oscar.

[MrBlueGuy 1,552]

Cavani swap with Oscar, Luiz sold for 30-35m and we are all happy.

[Fernando 6,484]

@BrazilStats: PSG coach Laurent Blanc has openly confirmed to TF1 that his club is interested in signing Chelsea duo David Luiz, and Oscar.

They won't get Oscar but with them liking David Luiz that's good cause it will increase the price between Barcelona and them.