David Luiz

[superfrank8 23]

Whats Jose doing? Luiz is the only one alongside Matic who tries to make something happen when we're playing at a snail's pace in midfield. Mata was the other creative player with the most assists and key passes for us and he sold him too. Not many players can play CB and CM. If this is true and we get someone like Paulinho as a replacement, we're in trouble. Hope this is false, we need David Luiz to stay.

[didierforever 7,349]

It only makes sense if you use the money to buy someone better.

For CB, Terry at 33 ain't getting younger you know?

Ramires, seriously? I rather keep DL then Ramires.

So let's see if we get a good CB or a good CM.

I think we already got our 3rd CB in zouma last window.

I dony know the exact stats but I think DL has started more games as a DM than a CB. Specially in the 2nd half of the season. The money we get for DL will be used for a CM.

[didierforever 7,349]

for how much did we sign him in the first place?

21mil £ +matic

[ZOS 580]

21mil £ +matic

thanks mate... 25 mil isn't adequate

[didierforever 7,349]

thanks mate... 25 mil isn't adequate

Agreed. The only aspect about this transfer that I don't like. The clubs in for him are barca, bayern and maybe PSG. We should be getting something ATLEAST north of 30.

[Pizy 18,415]

Unless it's for an extortionate fee like £35m or more or we already have a deal agreed with a top class CM then I don't really think it's worth selling him. He's popular with the fans, he's popular in the locker room with the players, and he's versatile on the pitch. I can see the Brazilian players being devastated if he's gone, Oscar especially.

If Barca or Bayern want him they'll hopefully either have to pay a huge fee or swap a player for him that is excess to their needs but we're desperate for. Fabregas or Kroos would work for me.

[ZOS 580]

Agreed. The only aspect about this transfer that I don't like. The clubs in for him are barca, bayern and maybe PSG. We should be getting something ATLEAST north of 30.

right... besides, I think the overall investment on him including his wages could be more than 30m, had he been sold last summer, it could've easily been for more than that figure

[The only place to be 11,313]

I would sell only because it means we'll never have to see him in midfield again. Anything that means the midfield will be improved is a plus for me at this point.

It's a shame Mourinho completely went back on his word and played him in midfield after saying he wouldn't and making fun of Benitez for doing so.

I think it's harsh to say he went back on his word. Jose has already said that he felt we needed to change the way we played and I think he had higher expectations of Luiz as a central defender. He had to drop him twice so in his mind I think he stopped being a CB option and had to be utilised elsewhere.

Throw in the injury to Van Ginkel and the decline of both Mikel and Essien and it was a pragmatic move to make.

But I agree that it's probably a good thing not to have him in midfield next season despite the fact I think it's his best position in the Premier League.

People are more concerned about losing a player with a bit of charisma rather than his skill.

I think people have vastly different definitions of charisma too. Selfies, thumbs ups and sticking your tongue out whilst being a bit of a clown is one type of charisma.

Bobby Moore, Roy Keane, JT etc. had a different type of charisma, but one that would inspire others. I'm not saying that Luiz isn't capable of that (indeed he's shown aspects of being a leader in the past) but I think his more exuberant personality is what some people find appealing.

[The Skipper 20,593]

I think people have vastly different definitions of charisma too. Selfies, thumbs ups and sticking your tongue out whilst being a bit of a clown is one type of charisma. Bobby Moore, Roy Keane, JT etc. had a different type of charisma, but one that would inspire others. I'm not saying that Luiz isn't capable of that (indeed he's shown aspects of being a leader in the past) but I think his more exuberant personality is what some people find appealing.

Nope, personally I couldn't care about the selfies or the thumbs up or him sticking his tongue out. I'm talking about his passion on the pitch. There were plenty of times last season and even this season (less so because he's obviously played far less) where his passion drove on the team. Luiz has shown the qualities to be a leader on the pitch a lot in his time here. Even JT said in the past that he could see him as future captain here, so you're overstating his "exuberant" personality as the reason why he's appealing as a leader.

He's passionate on the pitch. He hasn't been so much this season (even then he's still had his moments) but that doesn't mean you can suddenly discard everything else in the past.

[Fernando 6,484]

Yeah the dude is passionate can't take that away.

He said this season was shit, then that's because he has high standards.

Never want to have players like Arsenal that settled for top 4 every season!

[Sidzeret 2,257]

What's with PSG and Thiago Silva? Dint they want him anymore? A better bid from PSG is still possible, right?

[didierforever 7,349]

Unless it's for an extortionate fee like £35m or more or we already have a deal agreed with a top class CM then I don't really think it's worth selling him. He's popular with the fans, he's popular in the locker room with the players, and he's versatile on the pitch. I can see the Brazilian players being devastated if he's gone, Oscar especially.

If Barca or Bayern want him they'll hopefully either have to pay a huge fee or swap a player for him that is excess to their needs but we're desperate for. Fabregas or Kroos would work for me.

i will die before seeing cunt fiberglass in the chelsea blue.

[MrBlueGuy 1,552]

List of players that we could get to replace Luiz:

Carvalho

Khedira

Javi Martinez

Paulinho

Gonalons

Pogba

Witsel

Maybe Moutinho?

maybe just maybe Gundogan seeing as he is out of contract in 2016, only extended his deal by 1 year so if we offer like 35m they might sell

Lars Bender

Obviously all will cost 20-30m min but we could get any of them for the right offer. I am liking Pogba or Martinez

[Pizy 18,415]

i will die before seeing cunt fiberglass in the chelsea blue.

He's a Grade A cunt for sure, but is world class on his day. He's being both under utilized and played out of position often times at Barca. Don't think their supporters are too in love with him either.

Similarly to Suarez or Costa if he'd help us win matches I don't care.

This kind of move ain't happening, of coarse.

[didierforever 7,349]

He's a Grade A cunt for sure, but is world class on his day. He's being both under utilized and played out of position often times at Barca. Don't think their supporters are too in love with him either.

Similarly to Suarez or Costa if he'd help us win matches I don't care.

This kind of move ain't happening, of coarse.

costa is a cunt on the pitch. but when he does all those cuntish things for us, we will praise him for that.

fiberglass on the other is a in every sense of the word.a grade-a cunt. he is a cry-baby, his loser mentality is their for every1 to see. he will be north of 30mil easy, and for that amount we can get someone like kroos/rakitic who are as good.

[Pizy 18,415]

costa is a cunt on the pitch. but when he does all those cuntish things for us, we will praise him for that.

fiberglass on the other is a in every sense of the word.a grade-a cunt. he is a cry-baby, his loser mentality is their for every1 to see. he will be north of 30mil easy, and for that amount we can get someone like kroos/rakitic who are as good.

Come on. Rakitic isn't close to Fabregas' class yet.

[LAM09 6,777]

According to rumours, he has signed a deal with Barca. The fee is around €25m.

[didierforever 7,349]

Come on. Rakitic isn't close to Fabregas' class yet.

maybe not. but fabragas is a big match flop. he is a choker. he can never be the spine of a team, and any team that has him as its spine can never be successful. first arsenal and now a barcelona which was steam-rolling leagues and competition before he was foolishly forcefully grafted into the team.

rakitic might not be as good but he is quite good.