Popular Post! Stingray 9,441 Posted June 17, 2013 Popular Post! Share Posted June 17, 2013 I really don't get it. When I just joined here I saw a LOT of people going on about his defensive mistakes, judgement errors and so on - but watching all the games actually continuously made me think this was a bandwagon opinion based on previous (more youthful) performances. The surplus Luiz adds in general play vastly outweighs the occasional lack of judgement. By the way ... as a Belgian .... Kompany and Verthongen also do that. Still! So what do we want actually ? A perfect defender? Welcome to Narnia. Let's not replace our best CB - but instead add young talent. I swear Luiz will even be better next season. Like good wines ages with years. Peace., Dion, Bir_CFC and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 He needs someone like in-prime Terry, in-prime Walter Samuel, in-prime Lucio etc. beside him. A tough but disciplined mofo. Are there any of those available? I was going to say Sakho but he's inconsistent and doesn't exactly shout 'leader' which we kind of need more of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuvala 2,167 Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 I think its all bullshit ..Why would he leave? He's winning trophies, he's playing a lot, he has his brazillian mates around, he's enjoying life in London, he gets paid a lot, he loves the club.. AND, the best manager is going to make him a beast. why leave? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 I really don't get it. When I just joined here I saw a LOT of people going on about his defensive mistakes, judgement errors and so on - but watching all the games actually continuously made me think this was a bandwagon opinion based on previous (more youthful) performances. The surplus Luiz adds in general play vastly outweighs the occasional lack of judgement. By the way ... as a Belgian .... Kompany and Verthongen also do that. Still! So what do we want actually ? A perfect defender? Welcome to Narnia. Let's not replace our best CB - but instead add young talent. I swear Luiz will even be better next season. Like good wines ages with years. Yeah the bandwagon started because of some silly mistakes and a few penalties given away when he first arrived. Right now he just makes mistakes like any other CB (except Nesta, of course ) but his mistakes are just highlighted more by the media and everybody because he has a reputation of making mistakes, and also because his mistakes tend to be silly and due to lack of concentration. In fact, Cahill, for example, makes much more mistakes than Luiz does, especially in movement and decision taking, but his mistakes are rarely mentioned. The Skipper, Stingray, francozola and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Cahill and Cole didn't cover themselves in glory that time either. Their lack of communication in that situation was probably one of the worst I've ever seen and resulted in Cahill tackling Ash, lol.Yes, I know. It was hilarious. But still, the goal originated from Luiz's mistake in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 There's often talk of "Why can't he play for us like he plays for Brazil?" but I actually think he plays better club football than he does international football He seems more passionate with us since in our team he's one of the guys, whereas in the national team players like Silva, Neymar, Alves, possibly Marcelo and so-on are held in a much higher regard. I'm happy with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 The surplus Luiz adds in general play vastly outweighs the occasional lack of judgement. By the way ... as a Belgian .... Kompany and Verthongen also do that. Still! The difference between Kompany and Luiz is, in my opinion, Kompany loves defending whereas Luiz is a frustrated midfielder. Players like JT, Tony Adam, Kompany and Vidic could score a hat-trick of 30-yarders and the highlight of their game will be a near-post clearance or a crunching tackle. Luiz loves to bring the ball out and hit those shots, but there are plenty of people (me included) who really don't care about that side of the game. It has it's moments, like away to Fulham, but I'd rather have the guy like Chiellini who loves to dominate games from the back.Can he be the guy who plays next to that dominant CB? Absolutely, but if there are offers on the table for close to £40 million then it's very hard to say no. BlueLion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 The difference between Kompany and Luiz is, in my opinion, Kompany loves defending whereas Luiz is a frustrated midfielder. Players like JT, Tony Adam, Kompany and Vidic could score a hat-trick of 30-yarders and the highlight of their game will be a near-post clearance or a crunching tackle. Luiz loves to bring the ball out and hit those shots, but there are plenty of people (me included) who really don't care about that side of the game. It has it's moments, like away to Fulham, but I'd rather have the guy like Chiellini who loves to dominate games from the back.Can he be the guy who plays next to that dominant CB? Absolutely, but if there are offers on the table for close to £40 million then it's very hard to say no. True ... he had to learn that though. Vincent was waaaaaaaaaay to offensive back in Belgium and Germany. He was even played out for the NT in the midfield , quite like what is happening here now with Luiz. I can see him operating with a dominant CB and easing into a CB role. Also, I think the discipline Mourinho is going to demand of him will settle in .... so I hope :-) The Skipper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesman2610 1,417 Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 The difference between Kompany and Luiz is, in my opinion, Kompany loves defending whereas Luiz is a frustrated midfielder. Players like JT, Tony Adam, Kompany and Vidic could score a hat-trick of 30-yarders and the highlight of their game will be a near-post clearance or a crunching tackle. Luiz loves to bring the ball out and hit those shots, but there are plenty of people (me included) who really don't care about that side of the game. It has it's moments, like away to Fulham, but I'd rather have the guy like Chiellini who loves to dominate games from the back.Can he be the guy who plays next to that dominant CB? Absolutely, but if there are offers on the table for close to £40 million then it's very hard to say no. company in his first few season in england with city played in midfield as a holding player couldn't get into the team until he was turned into a CB and now you see he is a ball playing CB The Skipper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndersonBLUE 819 Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 If someone came in with a bid of £40million and I was in charge I would tell em too shove it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atholy 1,293 Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Fro art: Bir_CFC and DJames 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakeheath 19 Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 : Daily Mail reporting that Chelsea PSG agreed a 45m€ deal for the transfer of David Luiz , but it will be confirmed after the #Confeds Cup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drog.ba 239 Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 : Daily Mail reporting that Chelsea PSG agreed a 45m€ deal for the transfer of David Luiz , but it will be confirmed after the #Confeds Cuplink?can't see him leaving, but that would be good buisness, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 : Daily Mail reporting that Chelsea PSG agreed a 45m€ deal for the transfer of David Luiz , but it will be confirmed after the #Confeds CupThat is a lot of money. Is there a centre-back in the world who we couldn't sign for that much? Varane? Mangala?I've said it before, but £40 million for any player who isn't part of the spine or isn't someone like Hazard is a bid worth considering. If Jose doesn't fancy him then a €20 million profit is fantastic business. BlueLion. and chelseathebest 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 : Daily Mail reporting that Chelsea PSG agreed a 45m€ deal for the transfer of David Luiz , but it will be confirmed after the #Confeds CupThere doesn't seem to be any reports of that on Daily Mail's website... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 That is a lot of money. Is there a centre-back in the world who we couldn't sign for that much? Varane? Mangala?I've said it before, but £40 million for any player who isn't part of the spine or isn't someone like Hazard is a bid worth considering. If Jose doesn't fancy him then a €20 million profit is fantastic business.Spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakeheath 19 Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Yeah just found it on twitter can't remember who posted it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! termninja 5,290 Posted June 19, 2013 Popular Post! Share Posted June 19, 2013 But but but but.... NO!Fuck money, we don't need money, we have money. What we don't have are great people with great potential who score stunner goals and look cool while doing it KamikazeBlue, yuvala, Kezza and 7 others 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 If Luiz isn't part of our spine then Hazard isn't either. Blue Armour 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beepu 1,714 Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 I wouldnt be so quick to sell. 40m is alot but I think we need leaders like Luiz in our team. Luiz plays every match with passion and a fighting spirit. I think he really improved alot and I see him improving even more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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