robsblubot 3,595 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 10 minutes ago, Henrique said: This line doesn't make any sense. Good long passes are not related with time and space. You are suggesting anyone who have time and space can produce long passes? Its like saying every CB can produce good long passes. or does Mikel ever?! Agreed. His passing is excellent because it is - his technique is excellent. That's really undeniable. Personally I think his technique and movement allow him to play well in multiple positions, including midfield. He has proven already to be a competent midfielder - helped winning important tough away matches by himself (before matic arrived in jan) and then along with matic. At the moment we just don't have options in the CB area to even think about using DL anywhere else. Even when and if Zouma actually plays regularly this season, he will prob end up partnering DL more often than not. Henrique 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Times 1 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 My Favorite Defender  He is Really Nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Tomo 21,751 Posted September 21, 2016 Popular Post! Share Posted September 21, 2016 20 minutes ago, Henrique said: This line doesn't make any sense. Good long passes are not related with time and space. You are suggesting anyone who have time and space can produce long passes? Its like saying every CB can produce good long passes. Cesc is probably the best passer in the league, yet when pressed and denied space he isn't as effective, thats why he is rarely played further advanced despite his defensive handicap. So for the same reason he doesn't have as big as affect going from number CM to CAM, David won't going from CB to CM. It's also like that every time a defender is good in an attacking sense, be it a fullback with wing play or a centre back with a strong passing range, it's almost assumed that they are meant to play in a further advanced position which is quite odd, Dani Alves will always be a big example, people thought he was wasted at fullback then got tried on the wing and was 55 shades of total shite. Henrique, The Skipper, Amblève. and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 29 minutes ago, Tomo said: Cesc is probably the best passer in the league, yet when pressed and denied space he isn't as effective, thats why he is rarely played further advanced despite his defensive handicap. So for the same reason he doesn't have as big as affect going from number CM to CAM, David won't going from CB to CM. It's also like that every time a defender is good in an attacking sense, be it a fullback with wing play or a centre back with a strong passing range, it's almost assumed that they are meant to play in a further advanced position which is quite odd, Dani Alves will always be a big example, people thought he was wasted at fullback then got tried on the wing and was 55 shades of total shite. good points and yes, it is also undeniable that everything gets more difficult when under pressure. Fabregas IMO is more susceptible to pressure because he lacks athleticism/physique. I remember DL making pretty good runs when under pressure in midfield back then. He has already played in CDM and CM for very long stretches, so it's certainly not an experiment or unheard of. I do agree that at this time we have FAR more cover in midfield than defense, so it's natural DL will be far more needed in defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 39 minutes ago, Robguima said: good points and yes, it is also undeniable that everything gets more difficult when under pressure. Fabregas IMO is more susceptible to pressure because he lacks athleticism/physique. I remember DL making pretty good runs when under pressure in midfield back then. He has already played in CDM and CM for very long stretches, so it's certainly not an experiment or unheard of. I do agree that at this time we have FAR more cover in midfield than defense, so it's natural DL will be far more needed in defense. Luiz in midfield could be an option in very big games when we will not see the ball for long periods and need to contain our opponents as much/more than attack them, so City, Spurs, and maybe the return Scouse game at Anfield, especially if Zouma is back for them games which means we can do it without Cahill starting. Those games mentioned are the only games I could live with him in CM. Lesser games however when we need to take the initive I don't think him in midfield works in the slightest. Barbara 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! LDN Blue 7,903 Posted September 21, 2016 Popular Post! Share Posted September 21, 2016 On 9/17/2016 at 0:31 AM, petre.ispirescu said: These pundits never fail to amaze me. So David Luiz is not a Conte type of defender, but Cahill is? How come? He is fucking dog shite, can't defend, can't play from the back, can't keep his shit together if Terry is not there, backs up like a fucking maniac, is prone to silly errors every week etc. Had David Luiz been English he'd have been on every pundit's lips. But since he is a foreigner of course "he can't defend". Similar to Claudio Bravo's situation when the media looked like they was expecting his mistake against United so much just to have a reason to praise Joe Hart once more. Because he is English, of course. When in truth Joe Hart is a fucking poor man's Begovic. Wonderful post. Let's not forget, when speaking of media agenda, how Rooney is the prodigal son who can do no wrong. Yet Costa, who's an absolute goal machine this season, is the terror to football and Conte's campaign The Skipper, kellzfresh, Barbara and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,535 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 His shirt story is sweet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 WTF? http://metro.co.uk/2016/09/24/david-luiz-hilariously-ruins-a-chelsea-offside-trap-against-arsenal-6150746/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,941 Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 1 hour ago, Henrique said: WTF? http://metro.co.uk/2016/09/24/david-luiz-hilariously-ruins-a-chelsea-offside-trap-against-arsenal-6150746/ I was amazed that hardly anyone mentioned this during the game. It was shocking positioning. I was screaming at the tb like David WTF man! Hurrendous defending! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bir_CFC 3,455 Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 I was amazed that hardly anyone mentioned this during the game. It was shocking positioning. I was screaming at the tb like David WTF man! Hurrendous defending! That happened twice. Both times during the back 3 phase of the defence. Whatever, I'd write off the second half. All kinds of mess was going on there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Despiadado.Maleante 1,046 Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 I genuinely wonder if he gas a brain or not. That being said he is still 3xthe player cahill is. Tautvix 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 If only anyone of our midfielders, bar Cesc, knows how to execute that ball he played to put Michy 1vs1 with Petr. Adnane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HRiver 1,512 Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 Getting rid of clown Luiz was one of the best decisions Einstein Mourinho ever made Tautvix 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yipo 56 Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 don understand why we sign him, should steal mustafi from arsenal Tautvix and xPetrCechx 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,571 Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 2 hours ago, yipo said: don understand why we sign him, should steal mustafi from arsenal yea, for 25mil, what a miss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 4 hours ago, yipo said: don understand why we sign him, should steal mustafi from arsenal Tell that to the board. They spend stupid money on mediocre players and then sack the manager because he can't make it work.  Fulham Broadway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King11Didier 916 Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 He just needs someone with brain next to him and he will be good. His partnership with Terry back in the time was good. I'm not sure if he can be good next to Zouma. Maybe it's better to play him as DM. He can give good passes and tackle well, but you can see how bad is he at positioning... Adnane and Fulham Broadway 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Henrique 9,133 Posted September 26, 2016 Popular Post! Share Posted September 26, 2016 On 24 de setembro de 2016 at 7:43 PM, DDA said: I was amazed that hardly anyone mentioned this during the game. It was shocking positioning. I was screaming at the tb like David WTF man! Hurrendous defending! Actually my "WTF" was coming from the fact Metro made such a big deal of this mistake, and there was not a single headline about Cahill's horror show. manpe, Amblève., Barbara and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 19 hours ago, Fernando said: Tell that to the board. They spend stupid money on mediocre players and then sack the manager because he can't make it work.  I see, because the likes of Koulibaly and Naingolan are beyond doubt world class players that would easily make this Conte's side a top 4 contender...So the new excuse for sacking the managers is: "the board dont give the manager the right players". When the likes of Courtois, Oscar, Willian, Matic and Fabregas were bought seasons ago, no one was saying: "omg, the board is getting mediocre players". The board also spend "stupid money" on players like Lukaku (dont get me wrong, but he is just better than Batshuay) and KDB, and guess what, we even had a proper LB in Felipe Luis. Your storytelling about the situation between board and manager doesn't make any sense. Miki-Liki, The Skipper, Amblève. and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,941 Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 3 hours ago, Henrique said: Actually my "WTF" was coming from the fact Metro made such a big deal of this mistake, and there was not a single headline about Cahill's horror show. Fair enough but the mistakes from Luiz wass just as costly. It does not surprise me that being a Brazillian you care less for Luiz mistakes lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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