Roman Abramovich Thread

[ZAPHOD2319 4,416]

 

[Superblue 6,370]

18 minutes ago, ZAPHOD2319 said:

 

Surpass his achievements at Chelsea is as good as guaranteed to never happen. They are a million miles away from what he inherited here, add the league and location it's just not happening.

He might over time get them challenging and winning domestically and as a result into the Champions League - would that be deemed as a surpassing at what has happened at Chelsea?

Exciting for Goztepe though. It'll put them in a better position than they've ever been before, but the standard of player they will be able to attract won't allow for a quick fix.

[ZAPHOD2319 4,416]

I don't think it is possible to surpass what he did for Chelsea, unless they are talking about a PSG or Juventus event like walking to the league title every year, or almost every year. European wins in CL or UL are just not going to happen given the pool of players they can attract, even while dominating the league.

[Vesper 28,347]

1 hour ago, ZAPHOD2319 said:

 

can I get some love?

 

[Vesper 28,347]

14 hours ago, Hermione said:

Can agent Roman take Romulu and RLC with him?

yes!!!

I second this

Edited April 9, 2022 by Vesper

[Fernando 6,422]

Maybe that could work? He can take player from us that we don't want. It's like pumping money into the club but from outside club buying you players. 

[ZAPHOD2319 4,416]

Is today the deadline for final offers to be submitted?

[Superblue 6,370]

19 minutes ago, ZAPHOD2319 said:

Is today the deadline for final offers to be submitted?

Think it's been extended to Thursday, but with the Easter bank holiday weekend I'd assume nothing will start coming through until well into next week.

[OhForAGreavsie 5,869]

On 08/04/2022 at 18:37, Superblue_1986 said:

Surpass his achievements at Chelsea is as good as guaranteed to never happen.

I appreciate that the conversation has been largely about trophies and trophy count but I think there is another way to define surpass.

In 2003 the BBC invited submissions from Chelsea fans for an article about Roman's takeover to be published on their sports site and mine was selected. Among many other things they wanted to know what I hoped Roman would achieve with Chelsea. I wrote about my hope that he would establish Chelsea as a permanent member of the world's elite football clubs. There is room for debate as to whether that's a valid aspiration and, if so, whether or not it has been achieved. My own view is that it is the most valid ambition since trophy counts follow from it. I do not think that it has been achieved however. In that sense I believe Roman's achievements not only can be surpassed, but they must be.

Edited April 11, 2022 by OhForAGreavsie

[ZAPHOD2319 4,416]

Eduardo Saverin has a net worth of 12.5 billion USD currently.

 

[milka 3,335]

 

[Magic Lamps 11,635]

27 minutes ago, milka said:

 

I wonder what he is up to. Did he not lose a significant amount due to us being taken from him? How would he even able to purchase another EU club? There has to be some scheme to protect his remaining assets behind this

[ZAPHOD2319 4,416]

24 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

I wonder what he is up to. Did he not lose a significant amount due to us being taken from him? How would he even able to purchase another EU club? There has to be some scheme to protect his remaining assets behind this

When they report his loses it is factored by the decline of the Ruble and his holdings values in Russia. No billionaire has billions of Rubles laying around. His holdings in Russia are just like investments in stock, you have not lost any money unless you sell when the value is down. He also has holdings that nobody knows about. Every few years he sells something that nobody knew he owned. I would say he has a lot more than some journalists are speculating about.

[laura90 556]

I don't get what is behind all this? How could he be eligible to own Spanish club but not English? During this sanctions. Anyway if he buys Valencia or some other club I profoundly hope he will take Marina, board and our scouting department with him. 

How will he be happy to invest again when he has  treated Chelsea as a business for the last five to six years. We needed to sell in order to buy and after  Hazard and Morata who provided big transfer kitty, we only had duds to sell that no one wanted to buy, so we were left to sell youth in order to generate funds for more duds.

In fact, if the same board stayed, I would be terrified if our attempts of selling Lukaku and Werner collapse. Who would we sell ? Kante? Jorginho? With their contrasts running down. If we wouldn't  generate enough by those selling players (Italians will wait for the next year) who would we really sell? Conor to Newcastle for 70 mill, Broja to Southampton / Newcastle for 50 mill and Colwill to Newcastle for 40 mill are my guess.

That is how we would generate funds to replace outgoing defenders and midfielders.

There is fundamental difference between Roman until 2017 and afterwards. Which one will Valencia get?

 

[Superblue 6,370]

4 hours ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

I appreciate that the conversation has been largely about trophies and trophy count but I think there is another way to define surpass.

In 2003 the BBC invited submissions from Chelsea fans for an article about Roman's takeover to be published on their sports site and mine was selected. Among many other things they wanted to know what I hoped Roman would achieve with Chelsea. I wrote about my hope that he would establish Chelsea as a permanent member of the world's elite football clubs. There is room for debate as to whether that's a valid aspiration and, if so, whether or not it has been achieved. My own view is that it is the most valid ambition since trophy counts follow from it. I do not think that it has been achieved however. In that sense I believe Roman's achievements not only can be surpassed, but they must be.

Definitely a subject of debate and I guess it largely depends on what would be defined as elite clubs. It's the same really as which players are world class.

If you're talking the absolute pinnacle of elite in terms of size, support, success then I think you can only go with a small group of United, Barca, Real Madrid and Bayern.

That next rung down the ladder in my opinion is where we are. Difficult to compare our success with say a Juventus or a Liverpool because most of our success has been this era not ones bygone. But in my opinion we are positioned that level down from the very top clubs mentioned above and I'm ok with that and I'm unsure that level could truly be reached within a tenure as short as Roman's from where we were before his arrival.

Just a note though I think you've misread my comment. I wasn't saying his achievements at Chelsea couldn't be surpassed. I think the base has been built that we can be taken further. My comments were that Roman taking on that Turkish club he'd never surpass his achievements at Chelsea with what he could achieve with them.

[Mário César 967]

7 hours ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

I appreciate that the conversation has been largely about trophies and trophy count but I think there is another way to define surpass.

In 2003 the BBC invited submissions from Chelsea fans for an article about Roman's takeover to be published on their sports site and mine was selected. Among many other things they wanted to know what I hoped Roman would achieve with Chelsea. I wrote about my hope that he would establish Chelsea as a permanent member of the world's elite football clubs. There is room for debate as to whether that's a valid aspiration and, if so, whether or not it has been achieved. My own view is that it is the most valid ambition since trophy counts follow from it. I do not think that it has been achieved however. In that sense I believe Roman's achievements not only can be surpassed, but they must be.

Why?

[OhForAGreavsie 5,869]

5 hours ago, laura90 said:

How could he be eligible to own Spanish club but not English?

Because the whole thing is a made up, nonsensical bloody farce and a con. 

[Thor 2,369]

So who is buying us? Any updates?