Roman Abramovich Thread

[Vesper 29,014]

2 minutes ago, milka said:

Chelsea now effectively have ‘no new source of income’. If the club were to end up in administration they could face a 9-point penalty deduction. #CFC

yikes

What about the possibility of some or all player contracts being voided (in terms of being tied to the club, with full pay until they sign elsewhere) after the season (some or all may have void clauses IF certain types of events occur)?

[Vesper 29,014]

1 minute ago, Superblue_1986 said:

I understand that completely. 

But in all honesty what are these sanctions expected to do except gain some publicity? Is Putin going to suddenly pull out because Chelsea are being affected?

The only people this is truly going to harm are people within our own country employed by Chelsea or fans across the world. This isn't even going to affect Roman if he is true to his word that the club would be sold and proceeds to charity.

As per usual with this country and particularly this Government, it's a clusterfuck.

the thinking is (not saying it will work at all) that you put the hammer down on both the oligarchs (not just Roman) who help finance and fund Putin, make them scream in pain and maybe they turn on him, PLUS also (and this is brutal) put the hammer down on 99% Russian citizens overall, make their lives living hell financially, so they eventually revolt

 

 

[Superblue 6,372]

6 minutes ago, milka said:

Chelsea now effectively have ‘no new source of income’. If the club were to end up in administration they could face a 9-point penalty deduction. #CFC

The most ridiculous part of this and completely unthought by these sanctions.

As mentioned earlier, set up a vehicle independently regulated to collect income from the club for merchandise, tickets, sponsorship, etc and release these funds to the club in a regulated manner to pay for operational costs including wages. 

A transfer ban, wage renewals, etc - fine, I understand decisions like this can't take place at present but some common sense on the club being able to continue to operate as it is presently. 

What if Roman was able to go through courts and get these sanctions lifted? Could he then sue the UK government for an absolute fortune for the sanctions damaging the club? 

As I've said, sanctions fine. But the way they've been implemented is nothing more than a joke and the biggest impact felt will be fans and employees of the club, not Roman or Russia.

[Superblue 6,372]

4 minutes ago, Vesper said:

the thinking is (not saying it will work at all) that you put the hammer down on both the oligarchs (not just Roman) who help finance and fund Putin, make them scream in pain and maybe they turn on him, PLUS also (and this is brutal) put the hammer down on 99% Russian citizens overall, make their lives living hell financially, so they eventually revolt

I can understand the reasoning behind it all, but I cannot understand how they've gone about this with Chelsea. They have practically crippled the club.

Roman is selling anyway, if he's really as close to Putin as they think he may well be under order to just leave it. 

We could genuinely be out of business in a couple of months.

[ZAPHOD2319 4,516]

Thank God we are playing Norwich today.

[Vytis33 1,166]

The sales process was already underway but now the government in charge of the sale?  No due process of any kind?  This is so bizarre to me.  Sounds like someone is gonna get a nice discount on their purchase. 

 

And what did Roman do exactly that hadn't already been done three weeks or 20 years ago?  Until I hear otherwise I fail to believe he is an ardent supporter of war. 

[Pizy 18,415]

Are the club going to put out a statement, ffs? Or are they just going to ignore the 800lb gorilla in the room and send Tuchel out later to field questions way above his pay grade?

[Vesper 29,014]

6 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said:

I can understand the reasoning behind it all, but I cannot understand how they've gone about this with Chelsea. They have practically crippled the club.

Roman is selling anyway, if he's really as close to Putin as they think he may well be under order to just leave it. 

We could genuinely be out of business in a couple of months.

in the grand scheme of things we are looked at (by the big NATO governments, especially the yanks) as simply possible VERY minor collateral damage

other than our fans, club players club personnel, and some businesses directly reliant on the club, no one will shed (pardon the pun) a solitary tear if we are rent asunder as an existing entity

the real estate Stamford Bridge sits on is worth well over a billion, maybe multiple billions

developers would love to get their hands on it (Chelsea Pitch Owners will have to be overcome, but they could be squeezed till they scream and capitulate I wager)

 

[Blues Forever 1,232]

 

[Vesper 29,014]

15 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Are the club going to put out a statement, ffs? Or are they just going to ignore the 800lb gorilla in the room and send Tuchel out later to field questions way above his pay grade?

who would authorise such a statement?

the UK government?

we no longer have control of the club

we cannot even sell merch or tickets

Edited March 10, 2022 by Vesper

[Superblue 6,372]

4 minutes ago, Vesper said:

in the grand scheme of things we are looked at (by the big NATO governments, especially the yanks) as simply possible VERY minor collateral damage

other than our fans, club players club personnel, and some businesses directly reliant on the club, no one will shed (pardon the pun) a solitary tear if we are rent asunder as an existing entity

the real estate Stamford Bridge sits on is worth well over a billion, maybe multiple billions

developers would love to get their hands on it (Chelsea Pitch Owners will have to be overcome, but they could be squeezed till they scream and capitulate I wager)

 

At worst the CPO would register a new club under Chelsea Football Club to play at Stamford Bridge, probably in line with the Supporters Trust as a fan owned club. What has acted as a bit of a burden in recent years with sorting out the stadium actually holds critical importance to the future now. The CPO wasn't bullied or squeezed by Roman, there is no way developers will get their hands on the site. It's what the CPO was set up originally for anyway.

The CPO owes the club I believe circa £8m on a loan for the leasehold. I don't see this being an issue in terms of them being able to raise the finance to pay this in a scenario where the club went into administration or liquidation.

We'd have to start in the lower echelons of English football but I don't see a situation where there wouldn't be a Chelsea Football Club in the future and if we were playing 9 or 10 divisions down the pyramid, I will still be supporting the club.

 

[Superblue 6,372]

9 minutes ago, Blues Forever said:

 

Perhaps Roman has known this all along and is still focused on selling to his preferred bidder. 

It would make a lot of sense as Roman can pick who he wants as new owners, and the Government don't have an ongoing headache with the future of the club. They get a great bit of PR for sanctioning him which they've been panned for recently.

Roman had said the net proceeds would go to charity and not him so the Government would also likely allow for the transaction.

Hopefully. 

Now though at present, I'm not so concerned about who the owner is right now, I just want the club out of this mess.

[cosmicway 1,333]

2 hours ago, Vesper said:

no one will do that, that will kick off WWIII

Look, this government wanted EU to collapse.
Admittedly it was not their top target, because how bring it about in the first place ?
The top target was the unicorns of course.
But they tried to nudge things that way by as much as they could. What about the celebrations that were readied in case Marine Lepen won in France in 2017 ?
Now they are naturally scared to offer military assistance just like Biden and just like the rest of the Nato countries, but they desperately want to get rid of the stain. If Abramovitch was connected to Putin by 10%, then Johnson and co were connected by 198%.
Plus the Ukrainian refugees thing.
They found a scapegoat thanks to that Labour character from Wales as well.

Edited March 10, 2022 by cosmicway

[King Kante 1,500]

48 minutes ago, milka said:

Chelsea now effectively have ‘no new source of income’. If the club were to end up in administration they could face a 9-point penalty deduction. #CFC

Do you really think that Roman wouldn't have pumped in some cash to get us through this? Only issue is if sponsors run for the hills, but I doubt that as the club can still be sold (despite what some in the media are reporting) with bidding closing this week. 

My thoughts are that Nick Candy must be at the front of the queue. Massive Tory donor and property developer, who would get fast tracked faster that Usain Bolt. 

[milka 3,349]

Why cant the UK government channel this energy for the Newcastle or Man Shity takeover by the Saudi  family that has been involved in many incidents ? 

Edited March 10, 2022 by milka

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https://twitter.com/ChelseaFC/status/1501914298871857155?s=20&t=DuwlLtJR7FNBq1rCksP2sg

Edited March 10, 2022 by Valdo

[ZAPHOD2319 4,516]

Statement form Chelsea FC

 

 

[Laylabelle 9,381]

Guess they don't know much.. maybe cause that doesn't say anything new.

It effects everything..shop,hotel etc as well as players and all..least staff can still get paid! I think..

Edited March 10, 2022 by Laylabelle