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[Fernando 6,586]

28 minutes ago, Dion said:

I guess if the Bible is right about hell then I'll have lots of company there 

You know what? 

As much as we talked and joked about things, this is the only thing I wish it would be not true. I don't wish hell on anyone or even on my most hated enemy. 

I would go as far as saying that as bad Hitler was (and he was bad) I would not wish him eternal punishment in hell where the fire does not go out and their worm does not die. 

Eternal punishment.....I would not wish this on no one, no matter how bad you are. 

 

[cosmicway 1,333]

If big bang theory is correct, as seems to be the case, why is our big bang the only one ?
In science it is forbidden to ask the question.
It is like you in a car entering a town. You are in a suburb and you see a yellow bus. What kind of bus is it you don't see. Is it therefore that the town uses yellow buses for its transport system and there are 500-1000 of those ? Or is it a bus that belongs to a factory for use by the workers and therefore it's the one and only ?
You don't have sufficient information, you can't say.

Fact is that we can't see another big bang object if there is one.
If we actually do then it means that its proper motion has a vector component pointing straight towards us.
That means inversion of the Doppler effect and we burn.
If therefore other big bangs exist they are likely to be spaced several mega-googol-plex of light years away.
 

[Stingray 9,441]

Ow shut up already. fucking Groundhog day.

[Spike 12,049]

Implying 'hell and eternal punishment' isn't just a method of scaring people into attending church and paying alms. Catholic guilt been there and done that, m80s.

 

All in all, I'm agnostic, I don't care if there is a god and I don't care if there isn't. Can't prove either, so I'll just sit in a my room and play with this cat that could be dead or alive.

[KevinAshburner 1,270]

Coming to New York City and London in April 2016.

Babylonian Satanic Rule of Demonic Entity/Entities. The Whores of Babylon Cities.

see we are living in a One World Satanic Rule - World Order of The Governments. where the government's work for and with the fallen angels who live on earth amongst us, where the fallen angels tell governments what to do and when to do it or else bad things happen to them.

 

Baal (demon)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baal_(demon)

Baal

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baal

Baal (disambiguation)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baal_(disambiguation)

 

Crazy! Arch of Baal to be Erected In New York City and London

BY : DAHBOO777

Published on Mar 31, 2016

I realize that the headline of this article sounds like it must be false, but it is actually completely true. The Temple of Baal (also known as the Temple of Bel) was a world famous landmark that was located in Palmyra, Syria. In August 2015, this temple was destroyed by ISIS, and most of the world recoiled in terror at the loss of a “cultural heritage site”. In an attempt to “preserve history”, two exact replicas of the 50 foot arch that stood at the entrance to the temple will be erected in April 2016 in Times Square in New York City and in Trafalgar Square in London. Needless to say, a lot of people are quite disturbed by this. In ancient times, child sacrifice and bisexual orgies were common practices at the altars of Baal, and now we are putting up a monument of worship to this false god in the heart of our most important city.

 

April 2016: The Temple Of Baal Will Be Erected In Times Square In New York City

 By Michael Snyder, on March 22nd, 2016

http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/april-2016-the-temple-of-baal-will-be-erected-in-times-square-in-new-york-city

 

Life Among the Ruins

By KANISHK THAROOR ,  19 MARCH 2016

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/20/opinion/sunday/life-among-the-ruins.html

NEXT month, the Temple of Baal will come to Times Square. Reproductions of the 50-foot arch that formed the temple’s entrance are to be installed in New York and in London, a tribute to the 2,000-year-old structure that the Islamic State destroyed last year in the Syrian town of Palmyra. The group’s rampage through Palmyra, a city that reached its peak in the second and third century A.D., enraged the world, spurring scholars and conservationists into action. Numerous nongovernmental organizations are now cataloging and mapping damaged cultural heritage sites in the region.

 

'TEMPLE OF BAAL' TO GO UP IN NEW YORK, LONDON

Some object to monument promoting worship of false god

http://www.wnd.com/2016/03/temple-of-baal-to-go-up-in-new-york-london/

[Spike 12,049]

Fuck Baal, I'll drive up to New York and punch the cunt in the head.

[Stingray 9,441]

Fuck Baal, I'll drive up to New York and punch the cunt in the head.

Me too. Fuck, i'll fuck him right in the bum. [emoji106]?

[Fulham Broadway 17,339]

Cameron refused to confirm whether he has any money still invested in offshore tax havens, but said he did some ‘silly things at university’ which he would now be happy to discuss to the exclusion of all other subjects.

 

A Downing Street spokesman said: “The fact his father was a tax-dodger, his whole upbringing was paid for by tax-dodging, his sense of right and wrong was taught to him by a tax dodger and his refusal to confirm his current tax dodging status has no bearing on his ability to deal with tax dodging.

 

“Anyway, what about that pig, eh?”

 

 

[Muzchap 8,966]

5 hours ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Cameron refused to confirm whether he has any money still invested in offshore tax havens, but said he did some ‘silly things at university’ which he would now be happy to discuss to the exclusion of all other subjects.

 

A Downing Street spokesman said: “The fact his father was a tax-dodger, his whole upbringing was paid for by tax-dodging, his sense of right and wrong was taught to him by a tax dodger and his refusal to confirm his current tax dodging status has no bearing on his ability to deal with tax dodging.

 

“Anyway, what about that pig, eh?”

 

 

It's no surprise that rich people bend the rules - it's always been the same throughout history. Do as I say, not do as I do... 

The biggest fear for people with money is losing it, so they do anything necessary to ensure they keep it. 

I think it's easier for people to be critical, but I'm pretty sure when faced with that situation, the majority of people would act in the same way. They would preserve their money instead of handing over a big chunk of it to a Govt that will clearly waste it. I guess it comes down to this view of we are all equal - I don't think that works in a society driven by greed and marketing, and we are not all equal - even the education system allows people to divert to specific learning strengths. The whole concept is fundamentally flawed and rests on the principle of fairness, but what is fairness? Fairness is an interpreted belief - it's not an equal belief amongst people - therein lies the problem...

[Fulham Broadway 17,339]

4 hours ago, Muzchap said:

It's no surprise that rich people bend the rules - it's always been the same throughout history. Do as I say, not do as I do... 

The biggest fear for people with money is losing it, so they do anything necessary to ensure they keep it. 

I think it's easier for people to be critical, but I'm pretty sure when faced with that situation, the majority of people would act in the same way. They would preserve their money instead of handing over a big chunk of it to a Govt that will clearly waste it. I guess it comes down to this view of we are all equal - I don't think that works in a society driven by greed and marketing, and we are not all equal - even the education system allows people to divert to specific learning strengths. The whole concept is fundamentally flawed and rests on the principle of fairness, but what is fairness? Fairness is an interpreted belief - it's not an equal belief amongst people - therein lies the problem...

True. Theres a psychological phenomnum where enough is never enough in peoples brains.  People like you and me would pay a builder /plumber cash to get a cheaper deal, which to me is bit different to hiding vast wealth. Why does Abramovich need six super yachts ?

Let’s imagine a rich person living in the UK has money in a secret bank account in the Bahamas. The money in the Bahamas account is used to buy shares in a mutual investment fund based in the British Virgin Islands. And let’s imagine this fund invests in European company shares. The shares rise in value and the dividends are paid into the Bahamas bank account. The mutual fund shares are picked up by local statisticians as financial liabilities for a company registered in the British Virgin Islands. But the assets are not owned by a British Virgin Islands resident, so they are ignored. These shares ought, logically, to be recorded as an asset for the UK household sector since they are owned by a rich person in Britain. But UK statisticians have no way of picking up the asset’s existence. And the British Virgin Islands and the Bahamas don’t, of course, inform our own tax authorities or the Office for National Statistics (ONS). No wonder Cameron would be more comfortable talking about fucking a dead pigs head

What is wrong though is when, as you say, the govt, would only waste it. It is the same people in govt who are on the Panamanian list ! People voted in to represent us stealing billions that should be spent on public services. as for fairness -yes it is an abstract concept, but its not totally unfathomable. 663 million peole without clean water in the world sheds some clarity on how the concept could initially be examined.

[Stingray 9,441]

True. Theres a psychological phenomnum where enough is never enough in peoples brains.  People like you and me would pay a builder /plumber cash to get a cheaper deal, which to me is bit different to hiding vast wealth. Why does Abramovich need six super yachts ?

Let’s imagine a rich person living in the UK has money in a secret bank account in the Bahamas. The money in the Bahamas account is used to buy shares in a mutual investment fund based in the British Virgin Islands. And let’s imagine this fund invests in European company shares. The shares rise in value and the dividends are paid into the Bahamas bank account. The mutual fund shares are picked up by local statisticians as financial liabilities for a company registered in the British Virgin Islands. But the assets are not owned by a British Virgin Islands resident, so they are ignored. These shares ought, logically, to be recorded as an asset for the UK household sector since they are owned by a rich person in Britain. But UK statisticians have no way of picking up the asset’s existence. And the British Virgin Islands and the Bahamas don’t, of course, inform our own tax authorities or the Office for National Statistics (ONS). No wonder Cameron would be more comfortable talking about fucking a dead pigs head [emoji4]

What is wrong though is when, as you say, the govt, would only waste it. It is the same people in govt who are on the Panamanian list ! People voted in to represent us stealing billions that should be spent on public services. as for fairness -yes it is an abstract concept, but its not totally unfathomable. 663 million peole without clean water in the world sheds some clarity on how the concept could initially be examined.

Yup, social comparison theory. People cannot stop comparing upwards. So - you never have enough, because you only compare yourself to those that have more. If you get so rich, the only way to compete with the few richer is to fraud. [emoji849]

[kiwi1691 255]

Taxation is morally wrong, it is theft. There is nothing wrong with trying to protect yourself from being robbed. 

[cosmicway 1,333]

The Panama money compared to a national budget is enough to buy a tri-li-li whistle for Halloween.
People are made to eat raw corn by the journalists.
Nobody writes about the poor guy who was arrested in Crete for selling lenten Monday kites without VAT !
Or the old woman who was selling candles outside a church and was taken to prison and she was a cancer patient as well.
Those two and others were the victims of the neo-marxist "clean up Rome" campaign of mr Tsipras's Greek government.
So what utter bsht.
What I know is when Panama etc was a tax haven and nobody cared about it, the little poor men were not being chased by squad cars in the streets !

As things stand it is not that they don't want to pay VAT.
But for the registrations etc, it costs 5-10 thousand euro a year.
Then how is one going to make up this sum from a few kites he sells sell to the kids during the bank holiday ?

This is what the left has in store for everybody and you think they are after Messi-Ronaldo-Cameron (they will do this another day ...).

Myself I had to go to two banks to sign declarations to the effect that I 'm allowing the state authorities to peruse into all my belongings. I had to do this, so the signature was a formality. In fact they said sign so the bank can continue offering services to you.
That was in 2012.
I said to the clerk "obviously they are after those big black boxes with hidden treasures we hear of, are n't they ?".
To this he said "no my dear sir, they are after even the smallest sum of money - the manner in which it reached your account is the criterion".
Those are the new junta laws.
But while the governments of 2012-13-14 did indeed make use of those new draconian laws only to catch the big time offenders, the marxists now in power have turned themselves loose against even the legless street beggars.

Social justice left wing style.
Good morning big brother.





 

 

 

 

[Stingray 9,441]

The Panama money compared to a national budget is enough to buy a tri-li-li whistle for Halloween.

People are made to eat raw corn by the journalists.

Nobody writes about the poor guy who was arrested in Crete for selling lenten Monday kites without VAT !

Or the old woman who was selling candles outside a church and was taken to prison and she was a cancer patient as well.

Those two and others were the victims of the neo-marxist "clean up Rome" campaign of mr Tsipras's Greek government.

So what utter bsht.

What I know is when Panama etc was a tax haven and nobody cared about it, the little poor men were not being chased by squad cars in the streets !

As things stand it is not that they don't want to pay VAT.

But for the registrations etc, it costs 5-10 thousand euro a year.

Then how is one going to make up this sum from a few kites he sells sell to the kids during the bank holiday ?

This is what the left has in store for everybody and you think they are after Messi-Ronaldo-Cameron (they will do this another day ...).

Myself I had to go to two banks to sign declarations to the effect that I 'm allowing the state authorities to peruse into all my belongings. I had to do this, so the signature was a formality. In fact they said sign so the bank can continue offering services to you.

That was in 2012.

I said to the clerk "obviously they are after those big black boxes with hidden treasures we hear of, are n't they ?".

To this he said "no my dear sir, they are after even the smallest sum of money - the manner in which it reached your account is the criterion".

Those are the new junta laws.

But while the governments of 2012-13-14 did indeed make use of those new draconian laws only to catch the big time offenders, the marxists now in power have turned themselves loose against even the legless street beggars.

Social justice left wing style.

Good morning big brother.

 

 

 

 

Wut? Are you McCarthy? [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

[Spike 12,049]

18 hours ago, kiwi1691 said:

Taxation is morally wrong, it is theft. There is nothing wrong with trying to protect yourself from being robbed. 

 

In Australia (I imagine NZ is very similar) taxes pay for medicare, pension, welfare, infrastructure support (roads, bridges) student loans, disability support, residential aged care, university funding, policing, superannuation, public education, and a host of other things. If someone that earns $50,000,000 p/a is taxed at %50 do you really believe you are lowering their quality of life? I don't believe so and with that money (in a government free of corruption) it would actually enhance the lives of many more people. Do you honestly believe you could afford medical expenses without government help? I have to constantly deal with private health insurance companies and I can honestly tell you it isn't easy trying to navigate their web of self-fufilling loopholes designed to give out as little money as possible. My partner is diabetic and since the taxes are lower in America she has to be hundreds and hundreds of dollars p/month just to stay alive, much more than in a country like Australia. I'd rather be robbed by the government and have the money re-purposed into health care and public education as opposed to lining a insurance company's coffers.

 

You can stop paying taxes if you like, just don't drive on the roads, don't use government facilities, don't call the police, don't use government hospitals, don't use public, higher and in some cases private education, don't use public parks, don't use public transport, etc.

 

[cosmicway 1,333]

On 7/4/2016 at 9:05 PM, Stingray said:

Wut? Are you McCarthy?

good guy

[cosmicway 1,333]

23 hours ago, Spike said:

 

In Australia (I imagine NZ is very similar) taxes pay for medicare, pension, welfare, infrastructure support (roads, bridges) student loans, disability support, residential aged care, university funding, policing, superannuation, public education, and a host of other things. If someone that earns $50,000,000 p/a is taxed at %50 do you really believe you are lowering their quality of life? I don't believe so and with that money (in a government free of corruption) it would actually enhance the lives of many more people. Do you honestly believe you could afford medical expenses without government help? I have to constantly deal with private health insurance companies and I can honestly tell you it isn't easy trying to navigate their web of self-fufilling loopholes designed to give out as little money as possible. My partner is diabetic and since the taxes are lower in America she has to be hundreds and hundreds of dollars p/month just to stay alive, much more than in a country like Australia. I'd rather be robbed by the government and have the money re-purposed into health care and public education as opposed to lining a insurance company's coffers.

 

You can stop paying taxes if you like, just don't drive on the roads, don't use government facilities, don't call the police, don't use government hospitals, don't use public, higher and in some cases private education, don't use public parks, don't use public transport, etc.

 

 

Yeah but what you say is "we have pepper - we put on the lettuces".
Nobody said there should n't be taxes or even big taxes when it is necessary.
The economic problems facing the modern world are those related to totalitarian practices:

- communism
- fascist racist policies
- fascist streamlining policies
- monopolism

So you see mass exodus of people from the poor countries.
They 'd be always inclined to live in the prosperous western countries, but not mass exodus.

 

 

[Iggy Doonican 4,186]

[cosmicway 1,333]

17 hours ago, Iggy Doonican said:

Toryism is bad.
But if you look at it carefullly it's always the follow up catastrophe after the first catastrophe that can happen in anyone's country.
The first catastrophe is socialism.
 

[cosmicway 1,333]

I don't see why I should n't have my money in Arizona - Solomon Islands - Kuala Lumpur.
The socialist government spend them in Swiss holidays.
Re.politicians our ms Valavanis, finance minister, withdrew her 250,000 euros one hour before the announcement of Greek capital controls last July, making use of the advance information available to her. Later she said "she did it for her mother" ... Still later she resigned from the left wing government party and joined another smaller left wing party who advocate return to the drachma (= stricter capital controls, conversion of all bank accounts to "new drachma" accounts !).
The regime's state tv comedian mr. Lazopoulos who slanders and vilifies all who disagree with the left, exported 3 mil euros. He said it's for his performances abroad (?). We are still waiting from Albert Hall-Carnegee Hall to confirm they have indeed charged him with that amount.