Politics & Stuff

[Spike 12,049]

ISIS's favourite videogame is Bomberman.

[Emir 105]

  On 29/11/2015 at 10:51, Spike said:

ISIS's favourite videogame is Bomberman.

I don't think those apes know what a videogame is.

[cosmicway 1,333]

The Byzantine empire should be recreated.

We Greeks are really the christianized Romans.

Greece or Hellas was a province. The emperors were calling the regions "themata", meaning "subjects". So there was a Hellenic thema, an Ionian thema and a Thracean thema. Strangely there was no Macedonian thema and the Thracean thema extended out to today's Albania - the Illyric thema.
In the revolution of 1821 we had to stop at the borders of Thessaly, as further north the Turks maintained supremacy. In addition the Lord of Wellington did not want anymore revolution. So there could be no new Rome and the free country was named Greece. The blue and white flag was adopted in place of the yellow-black with the Byzantine two headed eagle.

Previously a great setback for Greece was the defeat of Napoleon Bonaparte in Waterloo. Napoleon's ancestors were Greek (Bonaparte derives from Kalomeris and in Latin becomes "Bonaparte"). As the great Emperor was not engaged in war with the Ottomans and his strategy was to defeat the English first, he was hiding the facts about his ancestry because the High Gate of Istanbul, the Sultan's palace, might not like it. But in France everybody more or less knew it.

With Turkey now tottering in the brink of collapse, the empire should be recreated, thus ensuring the uninterrupted flow of oil from the middle East to Europe.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Cameron's obviously made up '70,000 moderate Syrian rebels' crap is reminiscent of Blair's WMDs in Iraq speech.

[Fulham Broadway 17,091]

  On 29/11/2015 at 20:05, CHOULO19 said:

Cameron's obviously made up '70,000 moderate Syrian rebels' crap is reminiscent of Blair's WMDs in Iraq speech.

They really really are full of shit. 3 British fighters to drop a few bombs, as if it will make any difference.

At the same time the Tory papers are whipping up scare stories that Syrian refugees are in ISIS. The reality is if they bomb Syria there will be repeats of 7/7, and these are invariably perpetrated by Pakistani heritage disenfranchised young blokes that have been living in the UK all their lives.

The UK action of bombing Syria to use a football analogy is like bringing on Mikel in the 88th minute to hopefully score. Pointless with serious repercussions loom.

[Stingray 9,441]

  On 26/11/2015 at 11:38, Fulham Broadway said:

Dieudonne M'bala M'bala, the French comedian sentenced to two months imprisonment in Belgium. During his routine he said Jews are scoundrels and the holocaust a myth etc,. Pretty obnoxious stuff, and hes got previous for his anti-semitic stuff -but a prison sentence ?

If we are truly committed to ensuring everyone has the liberty to think and say whatever they please, then the jailing of Dieudonné should outrage us as much as the attempts to shut down Charlie Hebdo or the jailing of a Saudi blogger for ridiculing religious belief. Shouldnt we be saying ‘Je Suis Dieudonné’ ?

Dieudonné has been punished simply for thinking and saying certain things. This is thought-policing. It’s a PC, spat-and-polished version of the Inquisition, which was likewise in the business of raining punishment upon those who said things the authorities considered wicked.

All hate-speech laws should be scrapped. Dieudonné should be freed. And a continent whose governments argue against the imprisonment of bloggers in Saudi Arabia while jailing comedians at home needs to take a long, hard look in the mirror.

Well, its pretty clear here for a very long time since Belgium had its own camps (deportation and working camps like Fort Breendonk) plus a history of collaboration with the Nazi's, that we penalised negationism.

The Regine Beer Musuem - Regine who was transported to Auschwitz and made a story about her time there - in Antwerp even got European museum of the year, contributed - quite rightly so.

We have enough holocaust deniers in France, Belgium, ....

So he might have been punished very severly, but statements about the holocaust being fantasy are very much looked down upon here.

[Fulham Broadway 17,091]

@stingray. Yup there are holocaust deniers here and everywhere. Irving a notable one here. However, once you suppress and imprison, it encourages more. The best way with any view regardles of how abhorent is to challenge and argue. Nothing to fear if you have the right argument. The jailing of Duodonne shows they have lost the argument.

Europe’s hate-speech laws do not merely punish explicitly racist stuff (which would be bad enough). They have also been used against people who are seen as possessing the wrong moralbeliefs. From the Swedish Christian pastor given a one-month suspended prison sentence for describing homosexuality as a tumour on society to the former actress Brigitte Bardot being fined 30,000 euros for railing against the ‘barbaric’ way in which Muslims slaughter animals for meat, people are being punished for their deeply held, if unpopular convictions. This is the logic of anti-hatred laws: once the state is invited to monitor and govern thought, then anyone who is nasty or edgy or different becomes fair game.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Surprise, surprise the French emergency laws are being used almost exclusively against normal citizens and particularly against environmental activists. People having their front doors kicked down by the military and police for small crimes or even no crimes. Innocent people being held in custody without being charged. Media being censored. Tourists and visitors having their visas scrapped for no reason...etc.

So, I guess the plan to fight ISIS is, since they "hate you for your freedom", just get rid of the freedom and they would stop hating and attacking you? Smh...

[CHOULO19 24,332]

When Robert Fisk nails it, he fucking nails it!

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/david-cameron-there-arent-70000-moderate-fighters-in-syria-and-whoever-heard-of-a-moderate-with-a-a6753576.html

[Fulham Broadway 17,091]

  On 30/11/2015 at 22:57, CHOULO19 said:

When Robert Fisk nails it, he fucking nails it!

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/david-cameron-there-arent-70000-moderate-fighters-in-syria-and-whoever-heard-of-a-moderate-with-a-a6753576.html

Fisk is spot on as usual. I remember his analysis of iraq amongst others, seems to have been around forever ! This will be Camerons Blairist legacy.

[Fulham Broadway 17,091]

2012 document -the West to facilitate the rise of ISIS in order to isolate the Assad regime.

http://levantreport.com/2015/05/19/2012-defense-intelligence-agency-document-west-will-facilitate-rise-of-islamic-state-in-order-to-isolate-the-syrian-regime/

[CHOULO19 24,332]

A one sentence explanation for what caused ISIS:

https://twitter.com/KarlreMarks

What could be simpler, right?

[Fernando 6,533]

  On 30/11/2015 at 22:09, CHOULO19 said:

Surprise, surprise the French emergency laws are being used almost exclusively against normal citizens and particularly against environmental activists. People having their front doors kicked down by the military and police for small crimes or even no crimes. Innocent people being held in custody without being charged. Media being censored. Tourists and visitors having their visas scrapped for no reason...etc.

So, I guess the plan to fight ISIS is, since they "hate you for your freedom", just get rid of the freedom and they would stop hating and attacking you? Smh...

Sounds a lot like Marital law.

You know I have heard from someone that is what Obama wants to do in the US to declare martial law and stay in power.

Sounds radical but that's what someone told me....

[CHOULO19 24,332]

  On 01/12/2015 at 15:39, Fernando said:

Sounds a lot like Marital law.

You know I have heard from someone that is what Obama wants to do in the US to declare martial law and stay in power.

Sounds radical but that's what someone told me....

Did, by any chance, that someone previously mention that Obama is Muslim and that he was not born in the US/is not American?

[Fernando 6,533]

  On 01/12/2015 at 15:43, CHOULO19 said:

Did, by any chance, that someone previously mention that Obama is Muslim and that he was not born in the US/is not American?

Something about being sympathetic to Muslim, the other one not.

[Rhino's Skin 972]

so bombing it is then

[CHOULO19 24,332]

  On 02/12/2015 at 22:58, Rhino said:

so bombing it is then

What's a few billion in public money and an increased risk of terrorist attacks in the country in comparison to all the profits and free advertisement that the weapons companies are going to get?!

[Fernando 6,533]

What is your guys thought on gun control?

Obama is big on it, but will it really do a difference?

See the problem with gun control is that if you make it illegal in the states people will still find ways.

I mean hello drugs are illegal and people still find a way.

So I don't know if gun control will do much of anything.

But then there's people that say that everyone should have gun. And if everyone has one no one will rob because everyone can defend themselves. Sounds reasonable but there's something that just don't sit right with that.

Well what you guys think about it?