Politics & Stuff

[Spike 12,049]

Never seen someone make a joke about Hillsborough.

I have. Plenty of times. And I laughed plenty of times. Just like how I've laughed at other tragedies. Hillsborough somehow though, has become immune to these jokes in the mainstream community. People and comedians in particular are forgiven if play the murder of millions of Jewish peoples for laughs but crtiticised if they mention Hillsborough in jest. A member of TC was banned for posting an image relating to Hillsborough.

I'm not condoning playing tragedies for laughs but I do oppose the double standard.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Hey @Mufassir08, I remember you're interested and had a blog about Pakistani politics. Can I ask what you make of the current increasing of military ties between Pakistan and KSA? Thanks.

[Mufassir08 2,400]

Hey @Mufassir08, I remember you're interested and had a blog about Pakistani politics. Can I ask what you make of the current increasing of military ties between Pakistan and KSA? Thanks.

Well I don't have any blog related to to Pakistani politics and neither I am that interested in our dirty and corrupt politics, However I can give you my personal view on KSA asking for more Pakistani troops. You see Pakistan and KSA have always had a profitable relationship with Pakistan providing the muscle for the protection of high value assets and sites while KSA gave us loans and oil but in recent times, the general feeling among people over here is that Saudi's have a huge hand in all the terrorist activities in Pakistan and fund some of the major terrorist organizations over here. Due to this and some other factors, the general sentiment of KSA over here has changed and is no more positive that is for sure. People still find it as a highly attractive place for employment but don't hold KSA in the same high regard as which was evident during the 90's. The threat of ISIS has really troubled the royal family and they know that Saudi's defense is laughable to say the least( no offence to their army), they sure as hell won't use any defense contractors due to their price and no other Muslim country has the military muscle of Pakistan( Turkey has but Saudi's won't ask them) so obviously they are going to pressure us into sending our troops to protect them Arabs when they should be back home safeguarding our interests and knowing our PM, he is going to buckle down under the pressure. KSA calls the shot on this one but this is all just my opinion .

[lucio 5,418]

Isis keep destroying ancient cities. These people are just the worst.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Well I don't have any blog related to to Pakistani politics and neither I am that interested in our dirty and corrupt politics

Oops, my bad. I seem to remember you posting something you wrote about the Pakistani military offensive on the Taliban and the subsequent school massacre, or am I mistaking you with someone else? On any account, thank you very much for your answer

[Mufassir08 2,400]

Oops, my bad. I seem to remember you posting something you wrote about the Pakistani military offensive on the Taliban and the subsequent school massacre, or am I mistaking you with someone else? On any account, thank you very much for your answer

Yeah that was me but I never mentioned anything about running a blog or anything , you're most welcome though.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

"Those who are with us deserve everything, but those who are against us deserve to have their heads chopped off with an axe,"

FFS ISIS......oh wait, that's just the Israeli foreign minister! Never mind..

http://www.newsweek.com/behead-arab-israelis-opposed-state-says-foreign-minister-312276

[cosmicway 1,333]

"Those who are with us deserve everything, but those who are against us deserve to have their heads chopped off with an axe,"

FFS ISIS......oh wait, that's just the Israeli foreign minister! Never mind..

http://www.newsweek.com/behead-arab-israelis-opposed-state-says-foreign-minister-312276

The chopping off bit is excessive but he makes sense to me.

It's one thing to be immigrant in England and loyal to the state and confront those who are hostile to you and another thing to be an immigrant in England and say "Shropshire belongs to Sweden - Shropshire is a Swedish province".

[We Hate Scouse 10,327]

The chopping off bit is excessive but he makes sense to me.

It's one thing to be immigrant in England and loyal to the state and confront those who are hostile to you and another thing to be an immigrant in England and say "Shropshire belongs to Sweden - Shropshire is a Swedish province".

Sweden are more than welcome to Shropshire

[CHOULO19 24,332]

The chopping off bit is excessive but he makes sense to me.

It's one thing to be immigrant in England and loyal to the state and confront those who are hostile to you and another thing to be an immigrant in England and say "Shropshire belongs to Sweden - Shropshire is a Swedish province".

On that analogy, not that is should pertain to the content of that statement, shouldn't Liberman himself be the immigrant? His family, and the families of the majority of people represent the 'us' in that statement, moved there less than 80-90 years ago while those he wishes to behead with an axe are the original inhabitants that have lived there for hundreds and hundreds of years.

He and his 'state' are the immigrants in this case. For example, the prime minister, Natanyahu, who just vowed to increase illegal colonization in the Quds and extended the occupation as well as prevent the formation of a Palestinian state if he is reelected; he originally comes from Poland where his family has lived for hundreds of years before immigrating to Palestine in the past century. His father was born in Warsaw. Liberman himself was born in the Soviet Union and only immigrated in 1978.

But, as I said, that should not affect in anyway the validity of that ridiculous statement. In the twenty first century that is not acceptable to hear from anyone anywhere in the world, let alone a minister in a country referring to peaceful opposition inside 'his' country. The fact that he was not content to call for the death of civilians but went as far as "beheading with an axe" is not only disgusting but also indicative of a state that, despite all the massive propaganda to picture it as a white dove-moral and peaceful, remains a state that has been induced through brutal violence and can only be maintained by brutal violence.

I'd be equally appalled regardless of the political orientation of the person making that statement.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

On a different note, this is how the FBI literally creates terrorism in the US even though, as this article reveals, they themselves know that it is all an illusion and that the said terrorism would never exist have they not created it themselves: https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/03/16/howthefbicreatedaterrorist/

[Fulham Broadway 17,333]

^ link not working.

On your Israeli post, great analysis again Choulo. Israel, with its glut of jewish immigrants, with all its new money (from the US), and its hostility towards everyone else reminds me of the white racist settlers in South Africa.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

^ link not working.

On your Israeli post, great analysis again Choulo. Israel, with its glut of jewish immigrants, with all its new money (from the US), and its hostility towards everyone else reminds me of the white racist settlers in South Africa.

Here mate: https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/03/16/howthefbicreatedaterrorist/

If that doesn't work, it's an article in The Interacept today titled "How the FBI Created a Terrorist". Very interesting and revealingly. Well worth a read.

[cosmicway 1,333]

On that analogy, not that is should pertain to the content of that statement, shouldn't Liberman himself be the immigrant? His family, and the families of the majority of people represent the 'us' in that statement, moved there less than 80-90 years ago while those he wishes to behead with an axe are the original inhabitants that have lived there for hundreds and hundreds of years.

He and his 'state' are the immigrants in this case. For example, the prime minister, Natanyahu, who just vowed to increase illegal colonization in the Quds and extended the occupation as well as prevent the formation of a Palestinian state if he is reelected; he originally comes from Poland where his family has lived for hundreds of years before immigrating to Palestine in the past century. His father was born in Warsaw. Liberman himself was born in the Soviet Union and only immigrated in 1978.

But, as I said, that should not affect in anyway the validity of that ridiculous statement. In the twenty first century that is not acceptable to hear from anyone anywhere in the world, let alone a minister in a country referring to peaceful opposition inside 'his' country. The fact that he was not content to call for the death of civilians but went as far as "beheading with an axe" is not only disgusting but also indicative of a state that, despite all the massive propaganda to picture it as a white dove-moral and peaceful, remains a state that has been induced through brutal violence and can only be maintained by brutal violence.

I'd be equally appalled regardless of the political orientation of the person making that statement.

There are many politicians who make wild statements.

But I guess they don't like peaceful coexistence over there.

Bad for both of them.

Peace in the middle east is utopia.

But war is also utopia because nobody wins and the countries can't move like houses across seas.

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,920]

Netanyahu flys off the deep end, and it ends up saving his campaign

Good lord I can't believe people voted for this guy and his party.

[nadavTKL 1,787]

Good lord I can't believe people voted for this guy and his party.

Lots of us cant. Its a sad day, but that was the obvious result imo.

The media sold to us all that there is a real chance for a big change, for a more left-wing government, and they really did everything to try to make it, they were extremly biased. But Netanyahu is too smart and knows his voters too well. He spreads fear in them like a magician, and like always he succeeded. Yesterday he actaully said something that goes like "The Arabs are voting in big numbers, there's a real fear we lose, you must prevent it!". Unbelievable that a prime minister talks like that but thats Israel today.

The all election was more about the economical-social issues, and while most people in Israel agreed we need a real change there, enough voted for bibi - the pig who pisses on the less fortunate, always was like that. The same people who votes for him ironically.

No hope.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Netanyahu flys off the deep end, and it ends up saving his campaign

Good lord I can't believe people voted for this guy and his party.

But look at the disgusting racism and fear-mongering he had to do to get it done. The whole campaign was cheap, but last couple of days he really outdone himself and actually managed to convince enough people, mostly settlers, to vote for him.

Analysts saying he's won at the expense of his global image and relation with Europe, especially his comments against the two state solution, but I just think that he will retract it and nothing will change.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Lots of us cant. Its a sad day, but that was the obvious result imo.

The media sold to us all that there is a real chance for a big change, for a more left-wing government, and they really did everything to try to make it, they were extremly biased. But Netanyahu is too smart and knows his voters too well. He spreads fear in them like a magician, and like always he succeeded. Yesterday he actaully said something that goes like "The Arabs are voting in big numbers, there's a real fear we lose, you must prevent it!". Unbelievable that a prime minister talks like that but thats Israel today.

The all election was more about the economical-social issues, and while most people in Israel agreed we need a real change there, enough voted for bibi - the pig who pisses on the less fortunate, always was like that. The same people who votes for him ironically.

No hope.

What do you think are the chances of a unity government being formed?

[Fulham Broadway 17,333]

Trying to distract from the murderous racist state it is with the "look we're a deemacracy, having elections"

Bag o shite, the veneer of elections pushed on the Worlds media, doesnt wash with most. Netanyahus main vote winning strategy was based on creating fear " Iran is going to attack us, and I will protect you from gaza"

Fucking joke.

[xPetrCechx 13,573]

What do you think are the chances of a unity government being formed?

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