Madmax 9,219 Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Throwing money at the problem will no longer suffice, times and circumstances are different from when Roman took over. We face much deeper rooted issues in terms of club policy, vision, non-playing personnel etc.Continue with the fantasy £30m names though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067 Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Danny is a player we need to keep , i would keep him over Torres if it came to it. But he is ambitious so he may leave for another club , its worrying that we could become a selling club in the summer.I wouldnt worry that much cuz we know that roman loves to flex his financial muscles when push comes to shove, but what really e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067 Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Danny is a player we need to keep , i would keep him over Torres if it came to it. But he is ambitious so he may leave for another club , its worrying that we could become a selling club in the summer.I wouldnt worry that much cuz we know that roman loves to flex his financial muscles when push comes to shove, but what really really worries me is Danny. I say promise him some time as ST for when Torres needs rest or something, cuz Danny has to definitely stay.Sorry for double. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Throwing money at the problem will no longer suffice, times and circumstances are different from when Roman took over. We face much deeper rooted issues in terms of club policy, vision, non-playing personnel etc.Continue with the fantasy £30m names though.You mean we are not humane any more, right?It is true, just watch difference of this club now, compared to Chelsea who defeated barca 4:2. There, we havent had superstars, just lampard, drogba and makelele ( not mentioning JT and JC, since the are our youth). And yet we beat barca. But that spirit and love, it has somehow changed since then. The feelings after napoli win were very true, but we have realy bad cluv board policy...Managers are coming and going, same with their assistants, scouts, youth coaches...Ray Wilkins and Mourinho should stay...Roman fucked it all with throwin out Mou, man who made modern Chelsea truly. He brought Didi and those legends, more important he made Lampard top midfielder in the world. Now we face problems, we never had. I liked Chelsea because it had top players, but no buying superstars like ribery, rooney, ronaldo,...sheva and torres eventualy broke that rule to me...In all, buying bunch of top players will make us city. We always got players that showed realy heart to play for us; essien, carvalho, ballack, didi, malouda, anelka,...you saw how they enjoy their part of being at chelsea. Soon we go after 5 high profile players for 30 mio, that day I guess our team will lose soul. Sorry to say that, but this things happen when you buy bunch of so called ''superstars''azpi, cabaye/belhanda, mvila, hazard, hoilett and doumbia/cavani and use youth. Most I want actualy happen from transfers. We might not have strongest attack at moment, but hazard, mata, sturridge and new striker will evolve and in our club after two years, we might have strongest attack. Anelka was near best before he joined us, same malouda. in two years along didi, they paired dradly attack. Why buying hulk and modric and falcao then, if they will make our club soulless and plastic. money grabing? there will be no sympathisem, but just from new plastic fans who like those top players. same when ronaldo came to real. now you see how different has become. no respect to history actually. Just want to see sympathic club with players that love to play for this club. At this part I am envyous to barca or dortmund who produce so many young players and they will play there even they might not have soo big wages... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Throwing money at the problem will no longer suffice, times and circumstances are different from when Roman took over. We face much deeper rooted issues in terms of club policy, vision, non-playing personnel etc.Continue with the fantasy £30m names though.I hope you're ready to eat your words IF we spend big on Top players Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin_3d 1,140 Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Well this thread when out of it's principle.When the OP posted:But wait, i don't want any of those stupid next season XI threads we've had lots of, because for me they're unrealistic. Reading most peoples line ups we are buying 3 world class players who are going to spend 30 million on each, that wont be possible for us. So to be more realistic i'm going to name realistic signings and how much we can probably get them for.Talk about not reading what the OP's intention for the thread was about.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted April 12, 2012 Author Share Posted April 12, 2012 Throwing money at the problem will no longer suffice, times and circumstances are different from when Roman took over. We face much deeper rooted issues in terms of club policy, vision, non-playing personnel etc.Continue with the fantasy £30m names though.EXACTLY!, i want this thread to be realistic.And sorry i'm back now guys, got kicked out of my house lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted April 12, 2012 Author Share Posted April 12, 2012 I hate to sound like a broken recordm but NONE of the Top Players will join us now. Forget Eden Hazard, forget Gotze, forget Modric, forget EriksenThe only players who will join now are those that didn't qualify for CL or those who see the PL as a step upWe should rather look at quality clubs who failed to make CL like we didn't.Newcastle United - Cabaye, BaNapoli - Cavani, Lavezzi,Junior Hoilett - free and as for the CAM position - Lucas Moura, (Kevin de bruyne) WillianLeavin aside all that, we must focus on getting the Manager in place BY the end of MAY! We simply can't lose out on any bargain signings before Euro 2012 just because we didn't hire a manager.You can still get top players whilest not in Champions League, it's a matter of also spending cheap for great players.If we can do this correctly, then we deserve to be back at the top again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 You can still get top players whilest not in Champions League, it's a matter of also spending cheap for great players.If we can do this correctly, then we deserve to be back at the top again.Yes. Agree, we should spend wisely. Dontcare about how much money manager will get, hope he tries to get what we need, not whole new attack and midfield. I guess if we get 247 mio to spend, our coach wont even look at hoilett or cabaye...But they might do job better than any 40mio player. Hoilett, Cabaye, Belhanda, Hazard, Azpi, Doumbia, Mvila, Witsel, Johnson, maybe Hulk, Tiote, Modric should be players I would love to see at CFC. About half of them. And use Lukaku, KDB and Bertrand aswell. I'm still looking for cheaper, good creative midfielder, not Modric or Hamsik. Price rang and similar skills to Mata. Anyone knows for such player we might get? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted April 13, 2012 Author Share Posted April 13, 2012 Yes. Agree, we should spend wisely. Dontcare about how much money manager will get, hope he tries to get what we need, not whole new attack and midfield. I guess if we get 247 mio to spend, our coach wont even look at hoilett or cabaye...But they might do job better than any 40mio player.Hoilett, Cabaye, Belhanda, Hazard, Azpi, Doumbia, Mvila, Witsel, Johnson, maybe Hulk, Tiote, Modric should be players I would love to see at CFC. About half of them. And use Lukaku, KDB and Bertrand aswell.I'm still looking for cheaper, good creative midfielder, not Modric or Hamsik. Price rang and similar skills to Mata. Anyone knows for such player we might get?Is the 247 budget true?, if so then i am glad. But it's still going to be hard to get players here and i still think we should buy players like Tiote, Moses etc.Hoillet also cause you can get him on a free, the only reason i didn't add Hoilet, because for me he is inconsistent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 Well this 247mio could be true or not, but Roman must have seen problems we were facing this season and few top players must come. I admit that we should buy Fabregas when he was at arsenal. Get him for 60mio, I dont care since he can attack, work hard in midfield and defend good. Passes excelent and scores goals. Him and Mata...but he joined barca for 34mio. Rip off if you ask me. Now I wonder, Modric is best option. Cabaye is not on that level, also less attack work. Hamsik is not enough defensive on other hand. But Modric would cost lot, realy lot. 45mio at minimum. ----------Cech--------Brana-terry-luiz-cole-----mvila-modric----sturridge-mata-hazard----torres/cavani----azpi, ramires, kdb, hoilett, bertrand, cabaye/belhanda, mikel, kakuta, lukaku, lampard, meireles, romeu on bench.i wouldnt buy hulk because danny must play, lavezzi because i prefer hazard. johnson could be good adition, but no place for him really. What might be good is Isco from Malaga. 21yrs and spanish creative midfielder. I watched him against Madrid and he played great. Little unexperienced but already proving in Spain. Cant really decide belhanda or cabaye? javi martinez is good, could use as cb aswell, but he has huge temperament, something like luiz. lot of cards and unnecesary tackles. Maybe doumbia could be good as our first/second striker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,533 Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 You can still get top players whilest not in Champions League, it's a matter of also spending cheap for great players.If we can do this correctly, then we deserve to be back at the top again.still possible if there is a good project on here....that doesnt seem likely.. the manager will be hired in july by which time hazard would have signed for arsenal and hoilett would have gone to manu...does anyone know who else is available on a bosman in the summer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollingPapers 194 Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 Avoid Mathieu Flamini he is overrated and over paid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 We might go after Santi Cazorla or Isco from Malaga? They are not quite Mata type, but specialy Isco could develop in next few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,533 Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 some of the suggestions here are ridiculous. we can sign only 1 expensive player because of uefa rules and i think that one player should be chosen after a lot of deliberationmy suggestionout------>Malouda - 7mKalou - freeDrogba - freeEssien - 5mMeireles - 9mFereira - 1mBosingwa - 7m-----> Invan der wiel - 10mcabaye - 15mhoilett - freecavani - 30mde bruyne - donebenayoun - returningmceachran - returningkalas - returningcourtois - returning------------------------cech/courtois------------------------vdwiel/ivan-----cahill/kalas-----terry/luiz-----cole/bertrand--romeu/mceachran/mikel-----------cabaye/lampard------sturridge/ramires-----juan mata/benayoun--------hoilett/de bruyne---------------------cavani/torres/lukaku---------------reserve who get to play amid rotation - piazon, kakuta, hutchinson, bamford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 Strike: cabaye would cost us more than 15 mio. 20 minimum. Also picking striker ahead of left winger is bad. Just saying, we can still use drogba torres sturridge or lukaku, but there is nobody that could play decently on lw. Mata has to play central role as cam, or with partnership along belhada/modric/whoever. Also Azpi is more prospective than der wiel, younger aswell and price is same if not cheaper. Van der wiel about 17, azpi around 14Also all respect to lamps, but there is almost no chance i would pick him in regular team next season. As I said Azpi 12mioMvila 25hazard 40hoilett freecabaye/belhanda 20 or modric 40doumbia 20sell few players and get around 30mio for them, we would spend around 90-110mio for all players we need. next summer I would go after lb, striker and rw.Somehow Modric might be best option for midfield, he offers defensive and ofensive actions, holding and passing midfielder, creative and consistant. price is problem, but other way we need someone that can create (lets say belhanda), would cost 20 and than someone that can defend (lets say cabaye/mvila) with another 20-25 mio. combine that and price gets same as for modric alone. modric, hazard, cabaye/belhanda/mvila, hoilett, azpi and doumbia is optimal for me i guess we could spend around 100mio couldnt we(despite ffp)? and about doumbia, he is still 24 and strikers become best in older ages. I think he would be good value, but I get feeling at the end we will buy this: Cavani, Modric, Azpi and Pereira. Maybe winger aswell, but more possible Lavezzi than Hazard. What we also require is goodDM or keep Essien AND Mikel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 Players like Hoilett, Cabaye etc are less expensive than Hazard, Gotze etc for a reason. Cheaper players should not be our priority Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,533 Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 Players like Hoilett, Cabaye etc are less expensive than Hazard, Gotze etc for a reason. Cheaper players should not be our priorityWe can't go out and break the bank this season. That is why players like cabaye and hoilett are being mentioned and they have shown they can cut it in the premier league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 We can't go out and break the bank this season. That is why players like cabaye and hoilett are being mentioned and they have shown they can cut it in the premier league"We can't go out and break the bank this season." ...Why not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,533 Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 "We can't go out and break the bank this season."...Why not?uefa rule in effect from 2013. financial fair play. we can spend only what we generate.effectively it means only one or two big signings. hopefully the sales reduce the wage bill considerably Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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