Kojo 4,676 Posted May 7, 2012 Author Share Posted May 7, 2012 Hmm, that's another question already. You want to convert Mata into a more restricted central midfielder to benefit Rami's game, while just a second ago you wanted to sell him. Tbh, our defensive game would take quite a damage because Mata can't defend. 4-2-3-1 has been working well for us, I don't see why we would need to start tinkering with it and totally fucking up Mata's game.I don't want to benefit Ramires's game, it was nothing about me changing it because Ramires would be in the double pivot, it was my plan in the first place, because i would like to see Mata in a more central midfielder role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,533 Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 I never said i wanted David Luiz CDM so shut it, and i have seen many users say he should get played there, infact i only wanted him to play in midfield for a while. Not adapt there, no one countered my arguement so shut it once again. And if you don't leave my thread i'll have to get the staff here immediately. atleast,cut him some slack for being polite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 I don't want to benefit Ramires's game, it was nothing about me changing it because Ramires would be in the double pivot, it was my plan in the first place, because i would like to see Mata in a more central midfielder role.So you essentially want Mata to play the Lampard role back in the 4-3-3 days. Fair enough, I guess I'll just have to disagree with you on that one, I don't think he'd be suitable there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted May 7, 2012 Author Share Posted May 7, 2012 atleast,cut him some slack for being politeWHAT!, dude he said he would burn my business down if i talk about Ramires again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,533 Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 WHAT!, dude he said he would burn my business down if i talk about Ramires again.Sorry, my bad then. I only read - "So i request u please dont be offended" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 Using 4:3:3rami/moutinho-tiote/martinez/cabaye/mvila-mata/belhandahulk/hazard/danny-torres/danny/doumbia/cisse-marin/lavezzior 4:2:3:1tiote/mvila/mikel/cabaye-ramires/moutinho/martinez/witselhulk/hazard/-mata/belhanda/kdb-lavezzi/ayew/marintorres/doumbia/cisse/dannyI wouldnt buying striker yet, maybe Doumbia or Cisse, who would cost around 20 mio and are very good.RB is obvious, Azpi would be great here - young and spanish, good going forward, but also great in defenseDM is unnecessary, no matter how good Mikel is or Essien, we have one of best defences (except Bosingwa) and that proves how good Mikel is.That means Mikel plays standardly next season and I dont want to see Mikel-Tiote/Mvila pair, but something more creative CM who can defend aswell; options are Moutinho, Witsel, Modric or Martinez. Modric is less good in defense, but great in attack/starting actions. Martinez looks like young Xabi Alonso, also plays as CB, but I think Torres could profit with such buy Alonso-Gerrard-Torres or Martinez-Mata-Torres ). Both Modric and Martinez would cost extremly lot, Moutinho or Cabaye are cheaper. Moutinho is great in Porto with starting actions, but knows how to defend too (like young Meireles).Creative CAM would be nice too, someone like Belhanda or Modric. Dont think the new player would actualy start, since we use 4:2:3:1, only one cam and that is already Mata. That means if we buy modric, he would be CM, if we buy Belhanda, he would be sub for Mata or left winger.Wingers are required, two minimum. We already bought Marin, possibly starter or sub, we need another class winger ala Hulk or Hazard. Other options are Lavezzi, Ayew, Schurle, Muniain,...My wishes are Hulk/Hazard, Ayew, Belhanda/Modric, Azpilicueta, Martinez/Moutinho, Doumbia/CisseClose expensive circle:Mikel-ModricMataHulk/Hazard-Torres-Marin+AzpiMost possibleMikel-MoutinhoMataHulk-Torres-Marin And Azpi plus someone like Ayew, Belhanda price range-------lot of options, only few will actualy happen and possibly transfers not even mentioned here.Someone said we need new Anelka, well Ayew is perfect new Anelka for 20mioAnyone knows who is creative man at Atletic Bilbao? Is it Ander Herrera or Oscar de Marcos?If someone of these two it would be nice to buy one, considering he wouldnt cost less than Muniain or Martinez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 Also as I remember we were never "superstar" buying club, we looked after players that know team play, are solid, strong and mediocore, but talented and very good at club they were playing. Players like Ballack, Malouda, Anelka, Essien, Mikel, Lamps, Drogba, J Cole,...They were not marked as superstars, costed usualy around 10-20mio and they proved great deals. The only players, like superstars and costed lot were strikers; Pizzaro, Sheva, Torres, Crespo and never realy paid off. Possibly we are team that dont want superstars, but team workers that play for club. Maybe we should stick to fact 'less is more' and try buy players like: Azpi, Belhanda, Ayew, Cabaye, de Marcos and Ross BarkleyJust saying, I would love see players like Hulk, Hazard,...but big money players never paid off here, strikers specialy, most recently Torres and Lukaku(who still has lot time to prove). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted May 7, 2012 Author Share Posted May 7, 2012 Using 4:3:3rami/moutinho-tiote/martinez/cabaye/mvila-mata/belhandahulk/hazard/danny-torres/danny/doumbia/cisse-marin/lavezzior 4:2:3:1tiote/mvila/mikel/cabaye-ramires/moutinho/martinez/witselhulk/hazard/-mata/belhanda/kdb-lavezzi/ayew/marintorres/doumbia/cisse/dannyI wouldnt buying striker yet, maybe Doumbia or Cisse, who would cost around 20 mio and are very good.RB is obvious, Azpi would be great here - young and spanish, good going forward, but also great in defenseDM is unnecessary, no matter how good Mikel is or Essien, we have one of best defences (except Bosingwa) and that proves how good Mikel is.That means Mikel plays standardly next season and I dont want to see Mikel-Tiote/Mvila pair, but something more creative CM who can defend aswell; options are Moutinho, Witsel, Modric or Martinez. Modric is less good in defense, but great in attack/starting actions. Martinez looks like young Xabi Alonso, also plays as CB, but I think Torres could profit with such buy Alonso-Gerrard-Torres or Martinez-Mata-Torres ). Both Modric and Martinez would cost extremly lot, Moutinho or Cabaye are cheaper. Moutinho is great in Porto with starting actions, but knows how to defend too (like young Meireles).Creative CAM would be nice too, someone like Belhanda or Modric. Dont think the new player would actualy start, since we use 4:2:3:1, only one cam and that is already Mata. That means if we buy modric, he would be CM, if we buy Belhanda, he would be sub for Mata or left winger.Wingers are required, two minimum. We already bought Marin, possibly starter or sub, we need another class winger ala Hulk or Hazard. Other options are Lavezzi, Ayew, Schurle, Muniain,...My wishes are Hulk/Hazard, Ayew, Belhanda/Modric, Azpilicueta, Martinez/Moutinho, Doumbia/CisseClose expensive circle:Mikel-ModricMataHulk/Hazard-Torres-Marin+AzpiMost possibleMikel-MoutinhoMataHulk-Torres-MarinAnd Azpi plus someone like Ayew, Belhanda price range-------lot of options, only few will actualy happen and possibly transfers not even mentioned here.Someone said we need new Anelka, well Ayew is perfect new Anelka for 20mioAnyone knows who is creative man at Atletic Bilbao? Is it Ander Herrera or Oscar de Marcos?If someone of these two it would be nice to buy one, considering he wouldnt cost less than Muniain or Martinez.That's way too much money spent, you cannot think we will buy 3 players at least who have the price tags of 30 million each!.But i love you anyway and what you say is always right!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 That's way too much money spent, you cannot think we will buy 3 players at least who have the price tags of 30 million each!.But i love you anyway and what you say is always right!.Not to buy all players, but few on that list.Lol, you are funny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted May 7, 2012 Author Share Posted May 7, 2012 Not to buy all players, but few on that list.Lol, you are funnyBlueLyon i just admire you in every way, i think you're perfect, keep it up and you might... and i mean might just get on Henri's level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted May 7, 2012 Author Share Posted May 7, 2012 BlueLyon i just admire you in every way, i think you're perfect, keep it up and you might... and i mean might just get on Henri's level.OH MY GOD, WHAT AM I SAYING!. BlueLyon leave please, i cannot believe what i have done. Forgive me Henri!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 BlueLyon i just admire you in every way, i think you're perfect, keep it up and you might... and i mean might just get on Henri's level.WTF?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted May 7, 2012 Author Share Posted May 7, 2012 WTF?!Just leave please...It hurts me more than it hurts you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 Just leave please...It hurts me more than it hurts you This is life bro, we both knew this would happen eventualy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 You guys think we should sell Sturridge? He is frustrating, and seemingly becoming like Kalouda. It might be worth it to keep him around for one more year and try him as a ST rather than a winger which means not playing on the wings whatsoever next season, and playing alone up front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 You guys think we should sell Sturridge? He is frustrating, and seemingly becoming like Kalouda. It might be worth it to keep him around for one more year and try him a a ST rather than a winger which means not playing on the wings whatsoever next season, and playing alone up front.€25 Million. DONE! Or a trade could be on the cards. Some users like the idea of Dzeko, so why not a direct swap? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 €25 Million. DONE! Or a trade could be on the cards. Some users like the idea of Dzeko, so why not a direct swap?What if he leaves, plays as a ST for another team and than starts banging in goals? I think he should and will get another season. Hopefully as a ST. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin_3d 1,140 Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Don't think Sturridge should be sold or traded.Still young.If people made a case for Kalou and Mikel years ago cause they where younger, then surely this will be one of them.Another season or two will be good to see what he can do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 What if he leaves, plays as a ST for another team and than starts banging in goals? I think he should and will get another season. Hopefully as a ST.What teams can afford him in England? Not many. He'll stay, I'm confident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Sturridge is having a bad spell, ffs is it the first time you see a player having a bad spell? Don't give up now.. He's young as fuck and talented as shit. He just needs EXPERIENCE, decision making comes with it, cooler head comes with age. And he's English (home grown quota). Mancini publicly stated he regretted selling him, chances are we will too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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