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[KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607]

BlueLyon, no offence but your posts are kind of annoying and some parts of them don't make sense. Like sloth said there isn't much of a 'chemistry' at Chelsea right now anyway. City have better chemistry than us, which is why they play much better football. We have more spirit than Citeh but not more chemistry.

I don't like how you say buying 5 players will fuck us up. How? It can only improve us. The likes of Kalou, Malouda, Meiereles, Bosingwa, Mikel don't have a big influence on our club anyways. They need to be gone, as simple as that and 4-5 players would be magnificent and help us get back to the top. Yes it may take a season to gel, but with you're way it would take much longer. Like introducing youth, that will take at least twice as long for them to gel as they don't have to much experience in playing. Josh can't even get into the Swansea team...Buying top players will get us back to the top quicker. We NEED 2 wingers. It would be best if they were Hazard and Lavezzi/Hulk.If you can't get two of them, than we should get at least one of them and a cheaper option like Adam Johnson. As long as we get 2 wingers because we NEED them. Mata is much better in the midfield and if we have a real winger on both sides, that will stretch the opposition creating more room for Mata and it would also mean he doesn't have to drift out wide, which he didn't do againt spurs, and it showed through his performance because he was Great.

Also Lukaku is not ready, Simple. Loan for him. He can't play on the wings. That makes no sense. This is one of our problems now. Why do people like you insist on playing CF's on the wing? Plus he's not quick enough.

2 Wingers, a CAM, and RB is not a dream team, it's NEEDED. If Roman really wants to go for it, he should get a CF and CDM as well. Massive changes needed in this team, 3-4 won't be enough

[BlueLyon 9,359]

The club is much more symphatic if plays with their own players, rather than just buying. Around the world, city is known to be "fake" club. I dont want they will call us that too. Even with 5 new players, I doubt there will be any bigger results. Just take a look at city, they spend more than 200mio, but got no trophies in al these years. Yes we should spend, have buying

policy. 200mio for new players and we will lost reputation, sure there will simply be no trophies. Barca and Real would be still miles away. Aswell United and Bayern.

I dont say I dont want those players, team rebuild is necessary, but not at once. Give the time time. Buying those players wont make us better. We might play nicer, but important games will be lost, because no spirit in team and no die-hard players. All they will care is money and winning. But winning is not all...

[Strike 7,533]

The club is much more symphatic if plays with their own players, rather than just buying. Around the world, city is known to be "fake" club. I dont want they will call us that too. Even with 5 new players, I doubt there will be any bigger results. Just take a look at city, they spend more than 200mio, but got no trophies in al these years. Yes we should spend, have buying

policy. 200mio for new players and we will lost reputation, sure there will simply be no trophies. Barca and Real would be still miles away. Aswell United and Bayern.

I dont say I dont want those players, team rebuild is necessary, but not at once. Give the time time. Buying those players wont make us better. We might play nicer, but important games will be lost, because no spirit in team and no die-hard players. All they will care is money and winning. But winning is not all...

There is spending and there is spending smartly. City were in the bottom half of the table. they spent 200m and are challenging for the title now

chelsea are 6th now. a few smart additions to the squad and clearing dead wood will make us title challengers again. And as for Barca and Real being miles away - wait until Wednesday

[KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607]

There is spending and there is spending smartly. City were in the bottom half of the table. they spent 200m and are challenging for the title now

chelsea are 6th now. a few smart additions to the squad and clearing dead wood will make us title challengers again. And as for Barca and Real being miles away - wait until Wednesday

Amen, BlueLyon this explains my point as well. Just say Roman spends 100 million in the summer. This does not mean he is throwing his money away as long as we spend smartly and get players in the areas we need to improve. Man City did not spend smartly. They just threw money at the team and hoped for the best. Plus they have an overrated and pretty Mediocre manager in Mancini. All he wants to do is spend, FFS he wants 3-4 more players, the guy can't win anything.

Spending big but smartly is the way to go.

[Superblue 6,372]

The FFP issue is more about streamlining the wage bill then transfer fees. From how I understand it, the transfer fees are amortised over the length of contract so spending £100m on new players isn't as big an issue as people might think providing it will leave us with a much better squad that doesn't need much tweaking over the next couple of seasons. The wage bill however is an issue, so letting the likes of Drogba, Bosingwa and Ferreira leave, even for very little or no money will still help the club.

Personally I would love for us to sign Hulk and Hazard to accomodate Mata and Torres, but if we are 'playing smartly' -

* Let Drogba, Bosingwa and Ferreira all leave.

* Sell Malouda for about £5m. He still has a good reputation in France so might be a target for PSG?

* Sell Essien. He's a shadow of the player he once was, earns large wages, and could still be sold for between £10-15m because his reputation on the continent has not really suffered and he is still only 29.

* Sell Ashley Cole. He's lost a yard of pace, one of the highest wage earners and he's 31. I believe Real Madrid and Barca would both still take him if he was available for aout £8m.

* Sign Kalou up to a new contract. He's proven in recent weeks he can do a job as a useful squad player. It will allow us to send De Bruyne out on loan to a stronger league (or preferably a low/mid table Prem team) next season. We will then hopefully have a better player in him the season after, and then we can sell Kalou on for hopefully £6-8m with a ready made replacement.

I would rather have quality over quantity á la Barcelona because this will help force the issue of bringing through youth. Therefore:

* Buy Jordi Alba (although I think he may end up at Barcelona) or Baines to replace Cole as senior left back. However give Bertrand more game time as backup. We have burnt Cole out over the last 4-5 years and when regularly playing 50-60 games a season there is no reason Bertrand can't play at least 15 of them.

* New right back to challenge Ivanovic. My pick would be Debuchy or Azpilicueta.

* New deep lying creative midfielder. My preference would be Cabaye.

* Wingers - I have said Hulk and Hazard, but if we are trying to spend more wisely then Hoilett is available for a free at the end of the season, Moses will not be overly expensive if Wiga are relegated and Farfan wants to leave Schalke with a year left on his contract.

* I would love us to take a punt on Jordan Rhodes for £3-4m, even if we were to buy him and loan him to a low Prem team for a season. He has the potential to play in the Prem and could blossom into a good buy!

[Kojo 4,676]

The Award goes to Justin 3D, for giving me my 1000th rep, congratulations. Even though you win nothing, you can look back on this in 30 years and say, DAMN!.

[KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607]

Why are people choosing Hulk over Lavezzi?

[BlueLyon 9,359]

Amen, BlueLyon this explains my point as well. Just say Roman spends 100 million in the summer. This does not mean he is throwing his money away as long as we spend smartly and get players in the areas we need to improve. Man City did not spend smartly. They just threw money at the team and hoped for the best. Plus they have an overrated and pretty Mediocre manager in Mancini. All he wants to do is spend, FFS he wants 3-4 more players, the guy can't win anything.

Spending big but smartly is the way to go.

Exactly, but we should still try eventualy put few youth players into squad. If we get Hazard and Hulk for 75 mio, than fine. If they turn into great upgrade of our team, super. But Hulk would play on lw, where would danny play than? He is not proven striker, his shots on goal are sometimes good next time bad. He doesnt have killer instinct, therefore he would be hulk sub. But kid is too good to sit on bench, eventualy he will leave. If he does, it would be realy bad, such a talent. Therefore it might be better not to buy rw or just someone to back up danny. Someone cheap. We should use our players that can turn good and danny should play on rw. in this case hulk is not necesary, but someone cheaper, ready to sub danny when needed.

Hazard, Cabaye, Belhanda and Ayew would be good. And Azpi sure.

All the time I meant to spend wisely, but somehow this doesnt go along 3 profile players who would cost us 100mio, when we could get cheaper but possibly even better players. No Hulk or Lavezzi at all.

btw Hulk is RW and also striker, Lavezzi is LW. Hazard can play on both. Therefore, you cant put lavezzi on right or hulk on left. Why no one mention Ayew, but always Hazard? Kid is good, twice cheaper than Hazard and same age...

[KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607]

Exactly, but we should still try eventualy put few youth players into squad. If we get Hazard and Hulk for 75 mio, than fine. If they turn into great upgrade of our team, super. But Hulk would play on lw, where would danny play than? He is not proven striker, his shots on goal are sometimes good next time bad. He doesnt have killer instinct, therefore he would be hulk sub. But kid is too good to sit on bench, eventualy he will leave. If he does, it would be realy bad, such a talent. Therefore it might be better not to buy rw or just someone to back up danny. Someone cheap. We should use our players that can turn good and danny should play on rw. in this case hulk is not necesary, but someone cheaper, ready to sub danny when needed.

Hazard, Cabaye, Belhanda and Ayew would be good. And Azpi sure.

All the time I meant to spend wisely, but somehow this doesnt go along 3 profile players who would cost us 100mio, when we could get cheaper but possibly even better players. No Hulk or Lavezzi at all.

btw Hulk is RW and also striker, Lavezzi is LW. Hazard can play on both. Therefore, you cant put lavezzi on right or hulk on left. Why no one mention Ayew, but always Hazard? Kid is good, twice cheaper than Hazard and same age...

I don't want Hulk at all lol, If we got Hazard and Lavezzi I would have Hazard on the right and Lavezzi on the left. Plus Hazard will be better than Ayew.

[Superblue 6,372]

It's just a personal preference - I feel Hulk would be well suited to the Premiership. However if we were to alternatively buy Hazard and Lavezzi then I would be equally happy. What I want to see is three attack minded players playing behind a lone front man who are all basically given licence to roam, switch positions between each other and generally cause havoc.

The talk of Ayew has reminded me of Loic Remy - I think he would suit the Prem well and if we are looking for a cheaper striker than Cavani, Higuain, etc then I don't see an awful lot better than him around. Strong and explosive, he definately has the potential to replace Drogba in the squad.

[Superblue 6,372]

Another point to consider is that there is a lot of talent in the French league being talked about. If, as reports suggest, Laurent Blanc is a front runner for the Chelsea job, we may well see a number of these players being signed by him. He already has a reputation for preferring players playing in the French league for the national team and the likes of M'Vila, Debuchy and Remy are favourites of his, and I'm sure he see's a lot of the likes of Hazard and Ayew to know if they are indeed all that and worth the transfer prices being quoted...

...Just some food for thought.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

French league is definately where we should look. Malouda, Drogba, Anelka and Essien all played in France.

Now there are Azpi, Hazard, Ayew, Belhanda, Mvila,...

[Kojo 4,676]

Hulk is better than Lavezzi in my opinion, he is even much more phsyical what is much better for the premier league.

[KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607]

Hulk is better than Lavezzi in my opinion, he is even much more phsyical what is much better for the premier league.

Hulk is overrated IMO, Lavezzi would adapt well in the EPL, it's not like he's small, he's got a strong-ish build. Plus Hulk is just a wide forward who will want to cut inside alot. Lavezzi will do this Less IMO and be more of a real winger

[Santiago. 1,500]

Who are we linked with now that AVB is gone and that we won't qualify for Europe?

Is it true Roman made a list of every super star he wants and gave it to RDM and said pick the ones you want?

So many rumors

Anyway, this would be my preferred

OUT

Drobga

Torres

Miereles

Bosingwa

Malouda

Ferreira

In-

Falcao- 25mill +Torres

Hazard- 35mill

Lavezzi- 25mill

Azpi-15mill

Ganna be a bidding war for alot of these

------------Falcao------------

Lavezzi-----Mata------Hazard

------------------Ramires-------

---------Romeu------------------

A.Cole------------------Ivanovic

---------J.Terry----Luiz----------

----------------Cech---------------

SUBS

Sturridge

Kalou

Mikel

De Bryune

Cahill

Bertrand

Mceachran

Piazon

Lukaku

Azpi

Lampard

[Ben. 57]

Cavani would be nice, not likely, but possible.

[Kojo 4,676]

Who are we linked with now that AVB is gone and that we won't qualify for Europe?

Is it true Roman made a list of every super star he wants and gave it to RDM and said pick the ones you want?

So many rumors

Anyway, this would be my preferred

OUT

Drobga

Torres

Miereles

Bosingwa

Malouda

Ferreira

In-

Falcao- 25mill +Torres

Hazard- 35mill

Lavezzi- 25mill

Azpi-15mill

Ganna be a bidding war for alot of these

------------Falcao------------

Lavezzi-----Mata------Hazard

------------------Ramires-------

---------Romeu------------------

A.Cole------------------Ivanovic

---------J.Terry----Luiz----------

----------------Cech---------------

SUBS

Sturridge

Kalou

Mikel

De Bryune

Cahill

Bertrand

Mceachran

Piazon

Lukaku

Azpi

Lampard

We wont be able to spend 100 million mate, it will never happen in a million years. We need to forget about Eden Hazard in my opinion, we cannot get him. If we are not in Champions League which we wont be then he wont come simple as that, and he's too expensive, he will definitely pick man u or city over us without doubt.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

Chances now to get new players are bigger?

Maybe we showed the world this club is aiming for top seriously. I think we dont need to spend much on new players at all. Only thing we are missing is attack. One winger on left (Hazard), attacking midfielder and maybe striker or another winger are all we need. Plus rb to relax iva when needed.

4 players.

Best options are Hazard, Azpi, Lavezzi/Hulk/Cavani/Falcao and attacking mid.

Somehow realistic could be this

Ayew, Hulk, Azpi and attacking mid.

Cant think of proper attacking midfielder, that could make us better? Hamsik, Sneijder, Modric are expensive, Moutinho would suit great.

Iva-Luiz-Terry-Cole

Mikel-Moutinho

Mata

Hulk-Torres-Hazard

Prices: Hazard 35

Hulk 35

Moutinho 25

Azpi 15

Lot of money, after watching meireles tonight, moutinho would be great. defensive, offensive player, young enough and experienced, good passing and his work with hulk again...lovely

Overall if we are going after Rw, that should be Hulk. Lad is rumored with us for some time, could be possible and his strenght is great. Hard worker and excelent in shooting, crossing and dribbling. Lavezzi is not that good.

[Kojo 4,676]

Chances now to get new players are bigger?

Maybe we showed the world this club is aiming for top seriously. I think we dont need to spend much on new players at all. Only thing we are missing is attack. One winger on left (Hazard), attacking midfielder and maybe striker or another winger are all we need. Plus rb to relax iva when needed.

4 players.

Best options are Hazard, Azpi, Lavezzi/Hulk/Cavani/Falcao and attacking mid.

Somehow realistic could be this

Ayew, Hulk, Azpi and attacking mid.

Cant think of proper attacking midfielder, that could make us better? Hamsik, Sneijder, Modric are expensive, Moutinho would suit great.

Iva-Luiz-Terry-Cole

Mikel-Moutinho

Mata

Hulk-Torres-Hazard

Prices: Hazard 35

Hulk 35

Moutinho 25

Azpi 15

Lot of money, after watching meireles tonight, moutinho would be great. defensive, offensive player, young enough and experienced, good passing and his work with hulk again...lovely

Overall if we are going after Rw, that should be Hulk. Lad is rumored with us for some time, could be possible and his strenght is great. Hard worker and excelent in shooting, crossing and dribbling. Lavezzi is not that good.

Hulk is not 35 million, his release clause is 90 million or some mental shit like that.

And Hazard will not play for us if we arent in champions league, simple as that really.

We need to build a team around Mata, i don't think we need to spend too much tbh.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

Personaly, I would like Moutinho, Ayew and Hulk to come.

Yes i know hulk has 90 mio clause, but they would sell him for 35, that is his actual cost. He told, he would like to come in chelsea. Moutinho could replace Meireles in DM position. He play same style like Modric. Ayew would be my second choice, if Hazard wont come. Or Lavezzi.

Around 85mio, with sales we get 20mio and this would be first eleven + Azpi.

Cech

Iva-Luiz-Terry-Cole

Mikel-Moutinho

Mata

Hulk-Torres-Ayew/Lavezzi

But just to tell, Hazard is flair man, like Mata. And Mata didnt do much yesterday. Hulk, Ayew, Lavezzi and Ayew are better fighters.