Madmax 9,219 Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 Revenge breeds Fire. If you want to beat the "worlds best team ever"....you need every bit of it.Isn't that just a tacit admission that we're not good enough to neuter them tactically or technically, having to rely on psychological motivators like vengeance to stand a chance? In any case, all this revenge talk is misplaced, it's the ref who screwed us over, not Barcelona. Cold meticulous preparation, top notch collective concentration and sheer bloodymindedness can also get the job done against Barcelona, but maybe that's just me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran. 6,317 Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 Cut the high and mighty shit, we have NO score to settle with Barca? You must be mad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 Cut the high and mighty shit, we have NO score to settle with Barca? You must be mad.Come back when you have a valid argument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kezza 1,965 Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 I'm just hoping for a fair game. Not a ref on barca side or a red on our side. But I really hope we beat them so the fans can shove their attitudes up their arse where their head is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capriccioso 2,545 Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 We have no rivalry with anyone outside London. Hating someone does not make you their rival. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,448 Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 I think most of the Barcahate stems from their annoying superior attitude and then that exacerbated it. The post match media coverage was all about 'victory for football' and all that wank and we know that isn't true, we are the true saviours of football, not them.In short, I'd say that most hate them because:1. Glory hunting fans, and even normal fans of the club are cunts.2. Holier than thou attitude3. Saviours of football attitude4. Hypocrisy5. The media wanking over Barcelona all the time6. Comparisons between Messi and Pele and Maradona (probably a personal one, I don't think many other than me would cite this as a reason)7. Ovrebo8. They seem to be the darling of the establishment9. They can get away with 'financial doping' via their TV rights deals but no one else other than Madrid can.10. Acting like they are some kind of martyrs because Franco gave them a rough time in the 50s. Get the fuck over it, he was never a Madrid supporter, he just hated Catalan separatism- for which Barcelona was a front for.11. The disgraceful, diving, cheating cunts that play for them.12. The way said cunts act whenever someone dares to not roll over and let them win 12-0, complaining to the media that defending is anti-football. How the fuck does an essential part of football, defending, pervert the sport?13. The Fabregas affair.14. Inserting buy-back clauses into every young player's transfer out of the club.I was talking about Barcelona the team. I don't care about their fanboys or the crooning media. I'm pretty sure once this team starts to falter, all these extraneous characters will melt into the background.As far as the team goes I'll agree with only two of those points you mentioned: the Fabregas affair and the playacting. The playacting is something I can't stand because that sort of team doesn't need to resort to such tactics to win games. However, its something a lot of players, even our own, do in matches. We often let it slide when it comes to the bigger sides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,502 Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 this is not RIVALRY this is just PAYBACK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,448 Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 Isn't that just a tacit admission that we're not good enough to neuter them tactically or technically, having to rely on psychological motivators like vengeance to stand a chance? In any case, all this revenge talk is misplaced, it's the ref who screwed us over, not Barcelona. Cold meticulous preparation, top notch collective concentration and sheer bloodymindedness can also get the job done against Barcelona, but maybe that's just me.Well said. And JT has said something along those lines as well. This isn't about revenge, we have a job to do and Barcelona are just in our way. Simple as that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jype 6,398 Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 Barshitlona is garbage but why don't you just support Chels, instead of bad-talking barcelona?Who's to say we can't do both? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manco 38 Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 We were f***ed by the ref, we played a lot better. Barca had one shot on target all the match, but it was the fatal one...I remember being devastated As for the next 2 matches - revenge? There's only one problem. Since that game they have improved too much, and we've become worse.Besides Messi having the best season in history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidator 5,176 Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 I hope we lose the first leg and win the second. Winning in their shithole would make it even sweeter. Also, if we lose the first leg controversially then yet more people will turn on the biggest scandal in football and we will have everyone except the Barca gloryhunters cheering us on. Busquets needs a slap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 I hope we lose the first leg and win the second. Winning in their shithole would make it even sweeter. Also, if we lose the first leg controversially then yet more people will turn on the biggest scandal in football and we will have everyone except the Barca gloryhunters cheering us on. A Busquets leg break wouldn't be bad either.Quite the fan of drama, then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capriccioso 2,545 Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 I hope we lose the first leg and win the second. Winning in their shithole would make it even sweeter. Also, if we lose the first leg controversially then yet more people will turn on the biggest scandal in football and we will have everyone except the Barca gloryhunters cheering us on. Busquets needs a slapI hope we lose the first leg and win the second. Winning in their shithole would make it even sweeter. Also, if we lose the first leg controversially then yet more people will turn on the biggest scandal in football and we will have everyone except the Barca gloryhunters cheering us on. A Busquets leg break wouldn't be bad either. Quite the fan of drama, then?Fail edit is fail edit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Term-X 7,891 Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 this is not RIVALRY this is just PAYBACKTraditional Rivalry (domestic/cultural/historical)Competitive Rivalry (fuelled by previous encounters) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capriccioso 2,545 Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 TX is right, except I personally don't recognise 'competitive rivalries' at club level football, but fully support it in international football, e.g. England-Argentina is a rivalry but Barcelona-Man Utd is not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin_3d 1,140 Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 I think most of the Barcahate stems from their annoying superior attitude and then that exacerbated it. The post match media coverage was all about 'victory for football' and all that wank and we know that isn't true, we are the true saviours of football, not them.In short, I'd say that most hate them because:1. Glory hunting fans, and even normal fans of the club are cunts.2. Holier than thou attitude3. Saviours of football attitude4. Hypocrisy5. The media wanking over Barcelona all the time6. Comparisons between Messi and Pele and Maradona (probably a personal one, I don't think many other than me would cite this as a reason)7. Ovrebo8. They seem to be the darling of the establishment9. They can get away with 'financial doping' via their TV rights deals but no one else other than Madrid can.10. Acting like they are some kind of martyrs because Franco gave them a rough time in the 50s. Get the fuck over it, he was never a Madrid supporter, he just hated Catalan separatism- for which Barcelona was a front for.11. The disgraceful, diving, cheating cunts that play for them.12. The way said cunts act whenever someone dares to not roll over and let them win 12-0, complaining to the media that defending is anti-football. How the fuck does an essential part of football, defending, pervert the sport?13. The Fabregas affair.14. Inserting buy-back clauses into every young player's transfer out of the club.Great post! With the exception of hypocrisy. You can NEVER used that excuse for any club, cause every club got them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warnie_666 1,081 Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 But shouldn't there a be a reason for revenge? If you listen to JT, even he says he's almost forgotten about that match..The good thing though there seems to be a lot more people hoping Chelsea can succeed this time around, even if they don't expect it.I think this time we won't hear any nonsense about "a victory for football" or similar bullshit.Haha...Obviously the Captain wont come out saying Revenge Revenge. He should appear more level headed. Lampard said that they have an "Unfinished Business".......David Luiz mentioned that Didier Drogba dancing after looking at the draw was because of the prospect of playing Barcelona in the Semi. Every player after that night is thinking of "Revenge" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warnie_666 1,081 Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 Isn't that just a tacit admission that we're not good enough to neuter them tactically or technically, having to rely on psychological motivators like vengeance to stand a chance? In any case, all this revenge talk is misplaced, it's the ref who screwed us over, not Barcelona. Cold meticulous preparation, top notch collective concentration and sheer bloodymindedness can also get the job done against Barcelona, but maybe that's just me.We can neuter them Tactically NOt technically. But tactics alone are not enough, that is why Managers like Mourinho are successful because they are great motivators. When they talk, players listen. You cant just rely on tactics and techniques to win football games certainly not against the so called "worlds best team ever" against who we have one of the most fierce rivalry in Europe....And yes, it is the ref that screwed us, but my hate for Barcelona didnt start after that game. It started 8 years back, when Drogba was sent off and then Del Horno was sent off, and when Eto said they hate Mourinho and Chelsea, when they tagged us the enemies of football because we showed the world how to beat those pussy catalans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dj Borgs 262 Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 I envy you guys......you play against Barca.....we lose against Lazio.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 I envy you guys......you play against Barca.....we lose against Lazio.... If Napoli had a CB with pace, you wouldn't be in this situation. Mazzarri doesn't make it that easy on you guys too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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