Kevin de Bruyne

[Stingray 9,441]

How about Selling KDB + Courtuis + Piazon and get the money to bring Falcao or Cavani??? is worth???

No, that would be dumb as hell.

Why? Well, just look at the last 25 pages on here. Its all there.

[Mufassir08 2,400]

Yeah, me too. It wouldn't at all suprise me if our incompetent board did something like that.

He reminds me a bit of Gerrard but with more technical ability. His crossing and passing is awesome and he can also dribble past players with ease and get out of trouble in tight spaces. He's just the type of player we need and if we just abandon him like we have so many other talents I'd be furious.

My worry is also because of our idiotic board because i know that no other footballing board in the world would sell a talent like KDB.In my opinion KDB is just not shiny enough or a big enough name for the board to recall they would much rather spend 25-30m on the like's of schurrle or isco .

[Mufassir08 2,400]

How about Selling KDB + Cortouis + Torres and get the money to bring Falcao or Cavani??? is worth???

NEVER!!!!

[Pizy 18,417]

My worry is also because of our idiotic board because i know that no other footballing board in the world would sell a talent like KDB.In my opinion KDB is just not shiny enough or a big enough name for the board to recall they would much rather spend 25-30m on the like's of schurrle or isco .

I wouldn't at all mind Isco, but that would be in ADDITION to bringing KdB back.

[Mufassir08 2,400]

I wouldn't at all mind Isco, but that would be in ADDITION to bringing KdB back.

Isco would cost more then 30m.

[Pizy 18,417]

Isco would cost more then 30m.

I'm not so sure I buy into the reports saying that he'll go for that amount. If Isco himself said he wanted to move on I don't see why Malaga would put such a price on him that no one would touch him. I mean, they sold a player as good as Cazorla for under £20m and I know Isco is way younger, but Malaga needs the money.

I think he'd go for about £25m or so if we negotiated Piazon as part of the deal. Don't think he's worth as much or even more than Hazard.

[Mufassir08 2,400]

I'm not so sure I buy into the reports saying that he'll go for that amount. If Isco himself said he wanted to move on I don't see why Malaga would put such a price on him that no one would touch him. I mean, they sold a player as good as Cazorla for under £20m and I know Isco is way younger, but Malaga needs the money.

I think he'd go for about £25m or so if we negotiated Piazon as part of the deal. Don't think he's worth as much or even more than Hazard.

So even if he costs 25m we dont really need him that much do we?I mean we already have oscar and mata for the No#10 position and isco is not that effective on the wings so instead of spending 25m on luxury signing why dont we spend that 25m on somebody like modric or moutinho who would immediately improve our side massively.

[Pizy 18,417]

So even if he costs 25m we dont really need him that much do we?I mean we already have oscar and mata for the No#10 position and isco is not that effective on the wings so instead of spending 25m on luxury signing why dont we spend that 25m on somedody like modric or moutinho who would immediately improve our side massively.

Agree completely. I dream of having Modric in our side. He'd be immense.

Isco to me actually does look effective out wide and being able to cut inside and attack. It's not his ideal position but as we've seen with Oscar, Mata, and Hazard, they can interchange and have real fluidity in midfield and are constantly switching around. He could also solve the "no Mata" problem where we look shit when he's rested or starts from the bench. Mata's workload could be reduced with Isco and we see how good Mata is when he's fresh.

As you said, complete luxury signing, but one who could play a huge role for us.

[Mufassir08 2,400]

Agree completely. I dream of having Modric in our side. He'd be immense.

Isco to me actually does look effective out wide and being able to cut inside and attack. It's not his ideal position but as we've seen with Oscar, Mata, and Hazard, they can interchange and have real fluidity in midfield and are constantly switching around. He could also solve the "no Mata" problem where we look shit when he's rested or starts from the bench. Mata's workload could be reduced with Isco and we see how good Mata is when he's fresh.

As you said, complete luxury signing, but one who could play a huge role for us.

This summer i dont think we should sign any luxury players.get the world class playmaker we are crying for,blood in some youngsters sort out the striker and manager problem and also sort out the defence and after that the next summer if there is space and isco is available then yeah go for it by all means but this summer there are a lot more important issues that needs to be addressed.

[Weckerz 3,781]

Ideal scenario in my opinion next season: buy a good FB (left), bring back KDB, buy Witsel, sell Torres and perhaps Ba, buy a world class striker, play Lukaku as second striker. Hire José, Klopp or Moyes.

Cech/Courtois

Azpi Luiz Terry Cole/new FB

Witsel

KDB/Oscar Mikel/Rami

Mata Hazard

New striker/Lukaku

[mediator 2,026]

Exactly the same for me dude, and as LB i see Shaw

[juko 19]

Ideal scenario in my opinion next season: buy a good FB (left), bring back KDB, buy Witsel, sell Torres and perhaps Ba, buy a world class striker, play Lukaku as second striker. Hire José, Klopp or Moyes.

Cech/Courtois

Azpi Luiz Terry Cole/new FB

Witsel

KDB/Oscar Mikel/Rami

Mata Hazard

New striker/Lukaku

too defensive

[Leif 6,006]

I'd like to retract my previous comments regarding De Bruyne having a higher ceiling than Hazard. I'll feel like an utter cock if someone brings that up once Hazard is a world beater.

It's absolutely nothing against De Bruyne - I still hold him in high regard; but Hazard's recent form has convinced me that he will be the best. Perhaps the greatest Belgian of all time. (I've been doing some research and you Belgian's have actually had some really good players. I still think Hazard will top them though!)

De Bruyne will be one of the best players around though potentially. I believe the likes of Xavi and even Pirlo (a bit) are a tad overrated and don't deserve to be in contention for labels like "Greatest midfielder/passer of all time" yet, especially considering how late bloomers they both were (Xavi more-so than Pirlo) thus potentially limiting how long they'll actually even be 2 of the best current midfielders, but I believe De Bruyne will reach roughly the level those 2 players currently are when he reaches the age of...25 or-so.

(That paragraph was a bit of a mess, but I'm basically saying I see De Bruyne reaching the current level of either Xavi or Pirlo if he's used in a deeper, central role - but not be considered an all-time great like Zidane, Liedholm, and so-on where-as I see Hazard becoming an all-time great on the level of Ronaldo, Figo, whichever winger you can think of.)

[juko 19]

I'd like to retract my previous comments regarding De Bruyne having a higher ceiling than Hazard. I'll feel like an utter cock if someone brings that up once Hazard is a world beater.

It's absolutely nothing against De Bruyne - I still hold him in high regard; but Hazard's recent form has convinced me that he will be the best. Perhaps the greatest Belgian of all time. (I've been doing some research and you Belgian's have actually had some really good players. I still think Hazard will top them though!)

De Bruyne will be one of the best players around though potentially. I believe the likes of Xavi and even Pirlo (a bit) are a tad overrated and don't deserve to be in contention for labels like "Greatest midfielder/passer of all time" yet, especially considering how late bloomers they both were (Xavi more-so than Pirlo) thus potentially limiting how long they'll actually even be 2 of the best current midfielders, but I believe De Bruyne will reach roughly the level those 2 players currently are when he reaches the age of...25 or-so.

(That paragraph was a bit of a mess, but I'm basically saying I see De Bruyne reaching the current level of either Xavi or Pirlo if he's used in a deeper, central role - but not be considered an all-time great like Zidane, Liedholm, and so-on where-as I see Hazard becoming an all-time great on the level of Ronaldo, Figo, whichever winger you can think of.)

agreed

[TrippingStep 336]

I'm starting to wonder if you really watched our games.

De Bruyne is our best player so far and yes he's better than Eden Hazard now AT INTERNATIONAL LEVEL.

Let's be honest, Hazard has been poor and saying he's not, is having Hazard tinted-glasses, just take them off.

And if you really watched our games, you would've seen De Bruyne's amazing performances, that's why he's in the starting XI while we have a bunch of players on the bench who could all take his place, but they can't because he's that incredible.

Just look at our performance against Serbia (0-3) It's ALL De Bruyne.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4pPQI2CPho

Against Scotland, the next match, it wasn't as good.

I hate when Wilmots put a midfield trio of Witsel, Dembele, Fellaini or Chadli and the way the play is so rigid and quite static. Ok the mifielders are good to hold the ball but they kill all the space in front and against Wales and other matches, we had the "wingers" isolated on the wing with no support and the only option to either cross or giving the ball backwards.

A bit like the first two three matches under Benitez.

It's no surprise that all the better performances by the offensive players have come from the bench when the other team leaves more space as the team is not good to create spaces by the movements and passing.

I would prefer that Debruyne and Hazard play together between the lines, with Mirallas on the other wing, offering width and coming as a second striker to support Benteke.

[Mundaka 243]

I'd like to retract my previous comments regarding De Bruyne having a higher ceiling than Hazard. I'll feel like an utter cock if someone brings that up once Hazard is a world beater.

Those that followed De Bruyne since his debut at Genk will totally agree with you, De Bruyne has exceptional skills, everything you can't achieve by hard work/experience he has already, at high level, every team he went to, Genk/NT/Werder, he made an immediate impact as if he was there for years already. Its crazy how fast he learns, Hazard has in comparison with De Bruyne, played more games at high level so its obvious Hazard is to be considered better now. But still, if you look at how he did at genk (made them champions, with courtois) at the age of 19 (Courtois was 18) and those 2 were squadplayers at the start of the season and ended as keyplayers/championship winners at the end. And the odds of Genk winning it weren't exactly high. That's one the reason's we compare him with Cruyff, also for him it all looked friggin easy. If i were to compare him with one player now, it would be Pirlo, one of the major disadvantages of Pirlo is his physique (kinda the bottleneck of De Bruyne also, but he improved on that part big time in the Bundesliga, those germans sure train hard ) all other stuff, non physique related, like tackling he can do with ease/flair, same with De Bruyne. But the difference with Pirlo and De Bruyne is that De Bruyne is like 3 years ahead of Pirlo at the same age.... see where im getting at?

As for the comparison with Hazard and De Bruyne, in raw talent, De Bruyne has more to offer, but Hazard will always triumph in physique (kinda the same with messi vs ronaldo really), and well another big difference in favor of Hazard at the moment is his crazy technique, but i think De Bruyne can come close in that department.

Ow and which Belgian players you liked?

[Jase 43,479]

Saw this story regarding KDB in the link posted by MAF on Hazard in his thread.

http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&ie=UTF8&rurl=www.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://www.dhnet.be/sports/diables-rouges/article/428991/de-bruyne-c-est-chelsea-qui-decidera.html&usg=ALkJrhgu3RSGvb06KozZ7CcRK4O2rZGC2A

On future next season.

"I know there is interest from several clubs, including German clubs. There are contacts, but I do not know. I would not say no to another year in the Bundesliga. After the Premier League is the best league. But if Chelsea told me that I must return to London, I go back. "

His future did not bother too much. During our last interview, he even revealed that he was not following benefits Chelsea. "I have other things to do during my weekends," says he. "But it so happens that last week, I saw two Chelsea matches."

P.S. Translated to the web page above to English from its original language text.

[LukakutoStamford 779]

Can't comapre the two as they two compeltely different styles. De Bruyne is a player who will likely always be underrated for what he does because it will be viewed as solid and technically brilliant. Hazard will garner the attention because he is a flair player whose skill set is unique and his play is eye popping. It's like compairing Zidane to Petit of Deschamps. Zidane will get the plaudits but you can't win a World Cup without Petit or Deschamps, and frankly that's really underselling the dynascism of De Bruyne's play.