Kevin de Bruyne

[Magic Lamps 11,677]

Sterling. PL proven, stepped up after Suarez left and improved, was their most influential player despite having off the field issues. I think hes a better player and is a better investment than De Bruyne tbf. Sterlings always improved, I think if De Bruyne does another year and gets similar performances and stats then he should move but fuck knows. I personally see him going to City and not replicating that sort of year and then it makes people question him and his price. Fair enough he'd be a City player.. I generally don't see why we are so worried about him to be fair.

Arjen Robben is the only player we should be gutted that we let leave because he is a genuine world class wide player who would walk into any side.

I've seen the Sturridge thread have similar sort of posts to what has been put in here after he went to Liverpool and was banging them in with Suarez but still not fussed we let him go.

IMO KDB is twice the player Sterling ist. Just because Sterling is PL proven does not mean he is better. KDB might be Wolfsburg star player in a tailor-made system, but he performs to amazing efficiency. The consistency at that age is what makes him special.

But I can't see him replicating his Vfl form here either. Still he will come back to england as a matured player. He knows how to make an impact by now. But I don't see him fitting in City's system. The got enough lazy payers already. I guess he will be Yaya's long term replacement which will mean City have to change their style.

Robben was sold because our medical team could not keep him fit. He had the same injury problems at Real, but Dr. müller-wohlfart is specialized on his kind of knee and groins problems so bayern could get him fit faster. But we probably just should have upgraded our medics instead of selling him. could have even got dr.müller-wohlfahrt (Bayern obviously did not pay him too well as he is completely broke now btw)

Sturridge was a mistake as it meant keeping and playing torres without alternative. cost us one season. also he scored like 13 goals in 19 games from the right wing under AVB. would still be useful having a left-footed player who can actually score in the team.

[Parky 739]

When selling our young players we should always try add an 10-20% fee of future transfers especially when they get on sold to our direct rivals like in this case.

[ParNolio7 285]

I can't find any career assists stats for Eden. But I would never call him inefficient. He won Chelsea the title last year. No Hazard, probably no title.

KDB being more efficient than Hazard doesn't automatically mean that Hazard is inefficient. Just less efficient than KDB. Comparing club & country statistics.

Obviously Hazard had better stats in the 13/14 season. KDB only played half a season then being benched at Chelsea. But he still did really well for Wolfsburg in the second half of the season considering. Scoring 3 and assisting 6 in just 16 Bundesliga games. In a new team without any match rhythm.

Looking at our poor start, and the way City have impressed last night with a rejuvenated Touré & Kompany, admittedly against a pathetic WBA side, I'm afraid it's going to take more than just Hazard to be champions again this year.

I wish we'd bid for Berahino and/or Mané. They would be really useful additions to our attacking game.

Anyway, KTBFFH!

Will be strange though if we'd see KDB play against us next weekend..

[johnnythefirst 1,076]

KDB being more efficient than Hazard doesn't automatically mean that Hazard is inefficient. Just less efficient than KDB. Comparing club & country statistics.

Obviously Hazard had better stats in the 13/14 season. KDB only played half a season then being benched at Chelsea. But he still did really well for Wolfsburg in the second half of the season considering. Scoring 3 and assisting 6 in just 16 Bundesliga games. In a new team without any match rhythm.

Looking at our poor start, and the way City have impressed last night with a rejuvenated Touré & Kompany, admittedly against a pathetic WBA side, I'm afraid it's going to take more than just Hazard to be champions again this year.

I wish we'd bid for Berahino and/or Mané. They would be really useful additions to our attacking game.

Anyway, KTBFFH!

Will be strange though if we'd see KDB play against us next weekend..

I wasn't talking about the 13/14 season. I'm talking about all their seasons. Go look at Hazard's stats for Lille, where he was the only real star as well. He had 20 goals and 15 assists in 2011/12 in the French league alone + made them win it. His inefficiency for Belgium is mostly because they refuse to give him the fucking ball for some reason. It's like a game they seem to play. He makes runs all the time for nothing.

[ParNolio7 285]

It's like a game they seem to play. He makes runs all the time for nothing.

I'm sorry, but this isn't true at all. Certainly not since the Wilmots era.

What I will say in his defence when playing for Belgium, is that most players don't seem to get him. They don't react quickly enough. They don't run where Hazard would like them to run, and so on. It sometimes seems like he's playing a different game, on another level. BUT, if if I have to be harsh, if you're as talented as Hazard, you should be able to adapt your game to make it work with your team mates. KDB manages that part a lot better.

[Fernando 6,491]

Manchester City 'make £47m bid' for Kevin de Bruyne of Wolfsburg

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11679/9944164/manchester-city-make-16347m-bid-for-kevin-de-bruyne-of-wolfsburg

[striker 43]

I'm sorry, but this isn't true at all. Certainly not since the Wilmots era.

What I will say in his defence when playing for Belgium, is that most players don't seem to get him. They don't react quickly enough. They don't run where Hazard would like them to run, and so on. It sometimes seems like he's playing a different game, on another level. BUT, if if I have to be harsh, if you're as talented as Hazard, you should be able to adapt your game to make it work with your team mates. KDB manages that part a lot better.

There is also a lot of perception in this.

What qualifying game since the World Cup has De Bruyne performed better than Hazard.

In almost every game since the World Cup, Hazard has been one of the better players on the pitch.

It is true that his Belgian teammates sometimes don't seem to get him.

At Chelsea, they give him the ball if he asks it. Even if he is covered. In the Belgian team they look aftaid to pass the ball in those exact situations.

And that is the reason why he can't do the same because he is almost always covered by an opponent.

But at Chelsea that doesn't matter and hist teammates know this.

[ParNolio7 285]

What qualifying game since the World Cup has De Bruyne performed better than Hazard.

Yes, that's true.

KDB was outstanding against Andorra (where Hazard didn't even play), but fair enough that doesn't really count. In the other matches Hazard was one of the better if not best players, but still not getting stats/results.

In any case, start the new season, and I'm pretty sure KDB will quickly be at his best again.

[ParNolio7 285]

According to Belgian newspaper Het Nieuwsblad, Kevin De Bruyne is about to put pen to paper for a six year deal at Manchester City in which he'll earn 320 (!!) K a week (40K more than Hazard) and sees his club get paid a transfer fee of EUR 69 million (49 million pounds) ...

For those who read Dutch:

http://www.nieuwsblad.be/sportwereld/cnt/dmf20150812_01814942

[Fernando 6,491]

According to Belgian newspaper Het Nieuwsblad, Kevin De Bruyne is about to put pen to paper for a six year deal at Manchester City in which he'll earn 320 (!!) K a week (40K more than Hazard) and sees his club get paid a transfer fee of EUR 69 million (49 million pounds) ...

For those who read Dutch:

http://www.nieuwsblad.be/sportwereld/cnt/dmf20150812_01814942

Going to be interesting.

I still don't think he will hit those numbers he did at Bundesliga.

I see him more of a Nasri type of player with just a little more determination which ain't that bad.

[ParNolio7 285]

I still don't think he will hit those numbers he did at Bundesliga.

Probably not, but those were insane numbers. Can still make a good season reaching 50 to 75% of those figures.

Anyway, just curious to see how he'll settle in at City. Totally different club and style of play. I'm sure he'll do fine.

[iseah100 5,612]

No ambition

[ParNolio7 285]

No ambition

Haha and yet he's signing a 320K / week contract for 6 years.

Who needs ambition hey?

[iseah100 5,612]

Haha and yet he's signing a 320K / week contract for 6 years.

Who needs ambition hey?

Tbh I'd do some pretty shady things for money like that.

[ParNolio7 285]

Tbh I'd do some pretty shady things for money like that.

Haha yeah, but in all sincerety though, if KDB had no ambition, he wouldn't come back to the PL where 90% of the people think he's a lazy, difficult bastard who can't cope with EPL pressure just because Mourinho needed some excuses to justify his incomprehensible treatment and dismissal of De Bruyne.

No, without ambition, he'd stay safely at Wolfsburg in Germany, where everybody treats him as God.

[iseah100 5,612]

Haha yeah, but in all sincerety though, if KDB had no ambition, he wouldn't come back to the PL where 90% of the people think he's a lazy, difficult bastard who can't cope with EPL pressure just because Mourinho needed some excuses to justify his incomprehensible treatment and dismissal of De Bruyne.

No, without ambition, he'd stay safely at Wolfsburg in Germany, where everybody treats him as God.

Doesn't hurt City are offering him CR7/Messi money.

[mediator 2,026]

Doesn't hurt City are offering him CR7/Messi money.

320k before tax so may be 180k after ?

[iseah100 5,612]

320k before tax so may be 180k after ?

Does Ronaldo not get taxes taken out?