killer1257 3,200 Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 People say he is best player in the league for years but when you think about it... He is soon 30yo, has just 2 PL titles and in one of these seasons played just 28.4% of PL games. Unless City win many big trophies in the next 3 or 4 years his career is nothing special. I mean for someone he people would label as one of the best PL players in history...Hazard only won two titles as well, Suarez won nothing and he scored 31 goals and made 17 assists in 33 matches in one season. Titles are usually not won by the offense, titles are won when your team is able to actually defend. Gesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MCM4PR3Z 409 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 Wish we had a player like him Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jason 42,287 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 1 minute ago, MCM4PR3Z said: Wish we had a player like him Well, we used to have one... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
robsblubot 2,585 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 just sold the wrong Belgian at the time - honest mistake. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
killer1257 3,200 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 Thank you Mourinho Gesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MCM4PR3Z 409 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 1 minute ago, robsblubot said: just sold the wrong Belgian at the time - honest mistake. Hazard was brilliant here, just sold him at the start of his decline for a big bag of money. That was one of the most brilliant complete deals ever: Buying him, let him shine for years, sell him at the end of his career for three times as much <3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
robsblubot 2,585 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 3 minutes ago, MCM4PR3Z said: Hazard was brilliant here, just sold him at the start of his decline for a big bag of money. That was one of the most brilliant complete deals ever: Buying him, let him shine for years, sell him at the end of his career for three times as much <3 I know... just a jest and a bit of personal preference in terms of characteristics: think KDB is the rarer commodity. Belgium will suffer when he's gone. Big fooballing countries go decades without that type of player. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NikkiCFC 5,720 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 Havertz will be better. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
killer1257 3,200 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 Havertz will be better. Never Gesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Special Juan 25,995 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 This bloke was and is different level. Absolute closes thing to world class in the PL 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Magic Lamps 9,288 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 On 16.12.2020 at 7:52 PM, killer1257 said: Hazard only won two titles as well, Suarez won nothing and he scored 31 goals and made 17 assists in 33 matches in one season. Titles are usually not won by the offense, titles are won when your team is able to actually defend. Gesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk Suarez won tons in his career overall tho. a lot of trash trophies and only one club trophy in England but overall he did have a special career. Nacional[372] Primera División: 2005–06 Ajax[372] Eredivisie: 2010–11[373] KNVB Cup: 2009–10 Liverpool[372] Football League Cup: 2011–12 Barcelona[372] La Liga: 2014–15, 2015–16, 2017–18, 2018–19 Copa del Rey: 2014–15, 2015–16, 2016–17, 2017–18 Supercopa de España: 2016, 2018 UEFA Champions League: 2014–15 UEFA Super Cup: 2015 FIFA Club World Cup: 2015 Uruguay[372] Copa América: 2011 China Cup: 2018 Individual Ajax Player of the Year: 2008–09, 2009–10[374] Dutch Footballer of the Year: 2009–10[375] Eredivisie Golden Boot: 2009–10[376] IFFHS World's Best Top Division Goalscorer: 2010, 2014, 2016[377] Copa América Player of the Tournament: 2011[378] Copa América Team of the Tournament: 2011[379] FIFA Ballon d'Or: 6th place 2011,[380] 5th place 2015[381] Ballon d'Or: 4th place 2016[382] The Best FIFA Men's Player: 5th place 2016[383] PFA Team of the Year: 2012–13 Premier League,[384] 2013–14 Premier League[385] Liverpool Player of the Season: 2012–13,[386] 2013–14[387] Premier League Player of the Month: December 2013, March 2014[388] Liverpool Players' Player of the Season: 2013–14[387] Liverpool Goal of the Season: 2013–14[387] PFA Players' Player of the Year: 2013–14[389] FWA Footballer of the Year: 2013–14[390] Premier League Player of the Season: 2013–14[388] Premier League Golden Boot: 2013–14[388] FSF Player of the Year: 2013–14[391] European Golden Shoe: 2013–14, 2015–16[392][393] UEFA Best Player in Europe Award: 8th place 2014, 2nd place 2015, 4th place 2016[174][394] Trofeo EFE: 2014–15[395] UEFA Champions League Team of the Season: 2014–15, 2015–16[396] ESM Team of the Year: 2013–14, 2014–15, 2015–16[397] FIFA Club World Cup Golden Ball: 2015[178] FIFA Club World Cup Golden Boot: 2015[178] FIFA Club World Cup MVP of the Final Match Trophy: 2015[398] La Liga Pichichi Trophy: 2015–16[393] Copa del Rey top scorer: 2015–16[399] La Liga World Player of the Year: 2015–16[400] Barcelona Player of the Season (Trofeo Aldo Rovira): 2015–16[401] UEFA La Liga Team of The Season: 2015–16, 2016–17[402][403] FIFA FIFPro World11: 2016[404] FIFA FIFPro World11 2nd team: 2014, 2015, 2017[405][406][407] FIFA FIFPro World11 3rd team: 2018[408] FIFA FIFPro World11 4th team: 2013[409] FIFA FIFPro World11 nominee: 2019 (7th forward)[410] La Liga Player of the Month: May 2016, December 2017,[411] October 2018, Dece 27 minutes ago, killer1257 said: Never Gesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk It surprises me you see it that way given how highly you thought of him before we bought him. I agree tho. KDB is a very rare player. Incredible talent but not a showboat. Simply a very creative player with a very straightforward way to play. KDB will probably never win the very big prizes but everyone who saw him play should be able to say what a special player he was. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
killer1257 3,200 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 It surprises me you see it that way given how highly you thought of him before we bought him. I agree tho. KDB is a very rare player. Incredible talent but not a showboat. Simply a very creative player with a very straightforward way to play. KDB will probably never win the very big prizes but everyone who saw him play should be able to say what a special player he was.Yes, overall I know that Suarez had an incredible career. But winning the PL was not something he achieved, even though his stats were insane.On Havertz, I still rate him highly, but KDB is a different beast overall. If Havertz could get half of KDB's passing abilities, he will definitely reach WC level. But KDB and Havertz are different players though. I think that Kai, if he fulfills his potential, might score a little bit more goals, but assist wise he will not come close to KDB. Gesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jason 42,287 Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 Also negotiated his contract with City directly apparently. Didn't do it via agent etc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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