Frank Lampard

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Name Age Club Appearances Goals Assists

Paul Scholes 38 Manchester United 713 155 31

Xavi Hernandez 32 Barcelona 655 79 82

Steven Gerrard 32 Liverpool 613 154 100

Frank Lampard 34 Chelsea 581 194 130

Andres Iniesta 28 Barcelona 482 49 61

82 Assist for Xavi ? No, he has more than 140 + and there is a video with all the assists, master of goals is Lampard, master of assists is Xavi.

[Henrique 9,133]

Lampard had 2 or 3 great games the whole season. I dont even know why people still believe he is good enough for more 2 years.

[Styles 9,790]

That chance he wasted instead of passing to Ba summed it up. He is now putting his own glory before that of the team and it is costing us goals and games. He barely even played in midfield tonight and left gaping holes throughout the game because he wants to play like a striker and score goals. He left Ramires, one of the worst distributors of the ball in the league, alone several times. Lamapard is supposed to be our most experienced player but plays for himself more than anybody else in the team.

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Name Age Club Appearances Goals Assists

Paul Scholes 38 Manchester United 713 155 31

Xavi Hernandez 32 Barcelona 655 79 82

Steven Gerrard 32 Liverpool 613 154 100

Frank Lampard 34 Chelsea 581 194 130

Andres Iniesta 28 Barcelona 482 49 61

To be honest, that stats does not mean much when you consider pivot position.

It's more of how you dictate the tempo, your passing (not just assist), etc

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Ack, if he leaves I'll have to splurge out on a Frank Lampard 8 shirt sooner rather than later. That'll do a bit of damage to the old wallet.

I really don't know about this. My head says it would be best for him to leave, but everything else says the opposite. I'm not going to use stats or whatever else people use to back up their statements, I'm simply going to state my opinion. The midfield looks a lot more stable and effiicient with him in there, it's almost if he gives purpose to those playing around him. He may not have the 60 games a seasons legs anymore but he has proven that he can punch in a few goals and assists reggardless of his age. Buuut he isn't going to be here forever and the minutes he gets could be better applied to someone with a 10+ year future here, someon like Oscar, McEachran or Chalobah. Lamps has at the most three season left in him before his done as a professional footballer but those three mentioned earlier all have almost 15 years left in their career.

Both choices have pros and cons and I just hope whoever is in charge of this situation makes the right decision. We'll never know which is the right decision but hopefully every will turn out for the best reggardless.

The only thing I can say is that the club survived without Zola...

The thing is next season we are going to get another midfielder to play that DPL role (I really hope so). if we get one probably lampard will still have role to play next season. If we get two then lampard role will become very limited.

[TorontoChelsea 4,064]

That chance he wasted instead of passing to Ba summed it up. He is now putting his own glory before that of the team and it is costing us goals and games. He barely even played in midfield tonight and left gaping holes throughout the game because he wants to play like a striker and score goals. He left Ramires, one of the worst distributors of the ball in the league, alone several times. Lamapard is supposed to be our most experienced player but plays for himself more than anybody else in the team.

You're like Kojo with Mikel. Basically, you clearly hate Lampard so much, that everything you say is about him is bullshit and nobody can take you seriously. I'm sick of your narrative of Lampard as a selfish jerk. Yes, the player with the second most assists in Premier League history cares only about himself. Lampard also found himself in good positions a few times where he passed instead of shooting. He tried a pass to Oscar when he probably should have shot. Hell, if he's as selfish as you say, he'd have taken dozens of shots, right? I mean, he touched the ball all the time and because he only cares about himself, he must have just shot every time, right? It's not like he cares about the team at all. It's all just Lampard, Lampard, Lampard. If you look closely, when he kisses the badge, it's just a picture of himself. It's like you don't watch the game. You just watch Lampard and look for something you can construe as selfish and then jump up and down with a perverse delight...

And no he shouldn't have passed to Ba. I hate this "he should have passed" stuff. When you are in front of goal, in the box and have a clear shot, you shoot. This isn't hockey when you have to pass the puck into the net. It was a terrible shot, but it was the right move. Hazard had the ball on his off foot in a worse position than Lampard. He should have passed too, right? Selfish prick. Only cares about himself. This happens every time someone shoots and misses and there was someone else (who they wanted to score) who was available. It happened all last year with Sturridge and Torres. It happened earlier this season with Mata shooting instead of passing to Torres. If you try to set players up for perfect shots every time, you will never score. When you are someone who can score goals and you are in a good position, you shoot.

[Rmpr 8,977]

Actually I'm a special one, because most brazilians dont have a clue about football, and even most people who like football dont know what they say. They believe Scolari is still a great coach.

This is unbelievable!

Did you actually just say you have a better Football IQ than everyone in your country?

[Henrique 9,133]

You're like Kojo with Mikel. Basically, you clearly hate Lampard so much, that everything you say is about him is bullshit and nobody can take you seriously. I'm sick of your narrative of Lampard as a selfish jerk. Yes, the player with the second most assists in Premier League history cares only about himself. Lampard also found himself in good positions a few times where he passed instead of shooting. He tried a pass to Oscar when he probably should have shot. Hell, if he's as selfish as you say, he'd have taken dozens of shots, right? I mean, he touched the ball all the time and because he only cares about himself, he must have just shot every time, right? It's not like he cares about the team at all. It's all just Lampard, Lampard, Lampard. If you look closely, when he kisses the badge, it's just a picture of himself. It's like you don't watch the game. You just watch Lampard and look for something you can construe as selfish and then jump up and down with a perverse delight...

And no he shouldn't have passed to Ba. I hate this "he should have passed" stuff. When you are in front of goal, in the box and have a clear shot, you shoot. This isn't hockey when you have to pass the puck into the net. It was a terrible shot, but it was the right move. Hazard had the ball on his off foot in a worse position than Lampard. He should have passed too, right? Selfish prick. Only cares about himself. This happens every time someone shoots and misses and there was someone else (who they wanted to score) who was available. It happened all last year with Sturridge and Torres. It happened earlier this season with Mata shooting instead of passing to Torres. If you try to set players up for perfect shots every time, you will never score. When you are someone who can score goals and you are in a good position, you shoot.

He should have passed, or at least he should have scored. Period.

[TorontoChelsea 4,064]

He should have passed, or at least he should have scored. Period.

He should have at least got it on net and forced a save but yes, he should have scored.

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

Lampard is probably our most clinical finisher, he has squandered maybe 5 chances this season. Mata and Oscar wasted shitloads of chances but no Lamps commits one mistake the crows come out again? It has nothing to do with him being selfish, he takes his shots cos he is confident to score and will continue to do so. Today, he has been one of the better players in a team that played shit and in general has been by far our best player since his comeback.

[MADEZ 9]

That chance he wasted instead of passing to Ba summed it up. He is now putting his own glory before that of the team and it is costing us goals and games. He barely even played in midfield tonight and left gaping holes throughout the game because he wants to play like a striker and score goals. He left Ramires, one of the worst distributors of the ball in the league, alone several times. Lamapard is supposed to be our most experienced player but plays for himself more than anybody else in the team.

i think that incident with ba was not actually selfish play.

[BlueLion. 21,491]

Wow... Lampard was our best player yesterday but because we can't scapegoat Torres and pinning all the blame on Rafa is unfashionable, it is this legend's time to feel the wrath of the TalkChelsea crowd.

Sorry Frank, they know not what they say.

[TrippingStep 336]

Well, I dont like Lampard in the deeper position but to be fair, except the two last years and some ridiculous idea of England playing a two-man central midfield of him and Gerrard, He never played in this position in his prime years.

The fact that we play him there is more the fault of the board as we don't have defensive central midfielders in our squad.

We could still use him but only behind the striker when we need more power, goal threat around and in the box.

[The only place to be 11,313]

Wow... Lampard was our best player yesterday but because we can't scapegoat Torres and pinning all the blame on Rafa is unfashionable, it is this legend's time to feel the wrath of the TalkChelsea crowd.

Sorry Frank, they know not what they say.

He didn't look like our best player to me. Mata was far more influential in creating chances from where I was sitting and Demba Ba was fantastic up front. Even Luiz seemed a bigger threat with the ball at his feet.

Lamps had a good game, but no more. I was praying he'd swap Ramires for JT so we could have Luiz in midfield because once again that seemed to be the root of all our problems.

His work in the build-up to the first goal was fantastic (very much like the first goal at Stoke) but we need someone better in that double-pivot position. We need someone who can dictate a game from there when we have the majority of possession, like an Alonso or a Modric.

The substitution got boos, but it was probably the right decision. I'm not going to call him selfish for taking that shot but the pass on to Ba did seem a higher percentage option. I was also a bit miffed when he stepped up to take the free-kick in the second-half because I personally think Luiz offers the best option from that distance and position, but clearly they take turns and Lamps either had first-option or it was his turn.

Ramires had a shit game, but that midfield lost us the game.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

I know he wants to break that record, and we all want him to as well, but that is no excuse for being out of position for half of the game. Yes, Rami had a shocker, but he was not helped at all by Lampard's lack of presence in midfield.

[The only place to be 11,313]

I know he wants to break that record, and we all want him to as well, but that is no excuse for being out of position for half of the game. Yes, Rami had a shocker, but he was not helped at all by Lampard's lack of presence in midfield.

Why do we all want him to break the record? I've met Bobby Tambling on a number of occasions and he's a gentleman as well as being a great servant to the club.

Personally I couldn't give a shit about the goalscoring record. It's fairly meaningless in all honesty. It doesn't make Lampard any greater or lesser of a player whether he gets it or not.

But I agree with you about Lampard's lack of presence. He just didn't look like the old Frank last night.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Why do we all want him to break the record? I've met Bobby Tambling on a number of occasions and he's a gentleman as well as being a great servant to the club.

Personally I couldn't give a shit about the goalscoring record. It's fairly meaningless in all honesty. It doesn't make Lampard any greater or lesser of a player whether he gets it or not.

The record doesn't mean much to me either, but breaking it means obviously that he will score 9 more goals that could really help the team. But it also gives Frank a "high note" to leave on like DD and the CL. It will make his imminent departure more acceptable to the fans and, hopefully, cut the edge off the media attack on us for letting him go because everyone would be saying that it is the "right time" for him to leave.

[bushman 2,043]

That´s exactly as I read above. Lamps wants to break the record & I am afraid most of the times he will choose to shoot instead of pass the ball.

However, I personally do not blame him. Also, it´s not an easy task to play your best knowing you are not wanted by the club.

[The only place to be 11,313]

The record doesn't mean much to me either, but breaking it means obviously that he will score 9 more goals that could really help the team. But it also gives Frank a "high note" to leave on like DD and the CL. It will make his imminent departure more acceptable to the fans and, hopefully, cut the edge off the media attack on us for letting him go because everyone would be saying that it is the "right time" for him to leave.

I don't know. The media tends to run far fewer stories about how we're stupid to let him go when he plays like he did last night, or like he did against QPR.