Frank Lampard

[Blue Armour 4,336]

Well I guess Jose is blind then !! Have you ever considered it is you who does not understand football and Jose does?

Well...there's also the possibility that Lampard isn't suited to the deep midfield role, but Jose doesn't have a choice but to play him there.

[BlueLion. 21,491]

Well...there's also the possibility that Lampard isn't suited to the deep midfield role, but Jose doesn't have a choice but to play him there.

He isn't suited to playing upfield, now, either. He hasn't the legs for it. When you come to think about it, he really is a square peg in a round hole.

[Phil Driver 503]

Jose has the choice to play Mikel?

Oh hold on I see what you mean. !!

[Sidzeret 2,257]

I definitely don't see him working out in our current formation.

As long as we don't revert to the old 4-3-3, he shouldn't be made starting material.

[Fulham Broadway 16,975]

Captaining England tomorrow !

[Jase 43,479]

[Hutcho 8,443]

Legend!

No. 1 and always will be.

[Milan 17,878]

[123-blue 19]

Ryan, mate, there's no need for that. The "discussion" is not nearly that serious as to call someone a cunt.

Have been a lurker for a long while. This is absolutely ridiculous. So calling another member a "cunt" is perfectly acceptable as long as the name caller's views coincide with yours ? I agree talking to Phil is like banging your head against a brick wall and his take on Mikel is quite exasperating but he has never abused anyone on this forum and has shared his views without resorting to calling posters on here childish names. Surely the same courtesy should be awarded to him?

[ChelseasMessiah 304]

Have been a lurker for a long while. This is absolutely ridiculous. So calling another member a "cunt" is perfectly acceptable as long as the name caller's views coincide with yours ? I agree talking to Phil is like banging your head against a brick wall and his take on Mikel is quite exasperating but he has never abused anyone on this forum and has shared his views without resorting to calling posters on here childish names. Surely the same courtesy should be awarded to him?

I wouldn't bet on that if I were you. Phil has called me names before, not like I care or anything....

On topic, do people finally see what I mean by not wanting Lampard starting games for us at this level? We would be a much stronger side without him, period.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Must be very mixed feelings for Frank today. Incredible achievement, but must disappointed that it coincided with a loss. Such shame because I thought he was one of England's better players tonight.

Have been a lurker for a long while. This is absolutely ridiculous. So calling another member a "cunt" is perfectly acceptable as long as the name caller's views coincide with yours ? I agree talking to Phil is like banging your head against a brick wall and his take on Mikel is quite exasperating but he has never abused anyone on this forum and has shared his views without resorting to calling posters on here childish names. Surely the same courtesy should be awarded to him?

Who said it was acceptable? That very post you quoted is saying that it's completely uncalled for and should not happen again. But this was the first time Ryan has ever insulted anyone or broke any forum rules so it's common procedure to just ask him to not do it again. It has absolutely nothing to do with his opinion.

[123-blue 19]

I wouldn't bet on that if I were you. Phil has called me names before, not like I care or anything....

On topic, do people finally see what I mean by not wanting Lampard starting games for us at this level? We would be a much stronger side without him, period.

Has he ever straight out abused you? I think not.

@the Juve supporter

Right so if it's the first time one gets a pass and a pat on the back is it? Good to know.

[ChelseasMessiah 304]

Has he ever straight out abused you? I think not.

@the Juve supporter

Right so if it's the first time one gets a pass and a pat on the back is it? Good to know.

If by abusing me you mean directly calling me names, then yes he has.

Like I said I don't care because I no longer bat an eye to what he writes, I haven't read a single line of his posts for ages. I still wish him well - he looks at things nostalgically whilst I have an objective approach. And this is a football forum and a bit of name calling and swearing here and there is healthy in my books, people are getting too soft these days.

[bababoom 4,478]

Must be very mixed feelings for Frank today. Incredible achievement, but must disappointed that it coincided with a loss. Such shame because I thought he was one of England's better players tonight.

I disagree, he was poor, in the second half i forgot he was playing....

I've been saying it for a while, Lampard shouldn't be a starter for England, we look more solid and play better football with the likes of Gerrard, Wilshere, Cleverly and Carrick in midfield. Imo Gerrard is better than Lampard in the DM role, even though he's around the same age Gerrard is more mobile and able to close players down faster, Wilshere is one of our better players technically, Cleverly has been poor this season but he works well with Wilshere when we try and press the opposition (Like the match against Brazil at Wembley) Carrick needs to play, simple as that, he can keep us ticking in midfield.

[The Skipper 20,593]

I disagree, he was poor, in the second half i forgot he was playing....

I've been saying it for a while, Lampard shouldn't be a starter for England, we look more solid and play better football with the likes of Gerrard, Wilshere, Cleverly and Carrick in midfield. Imo Gerrard is better than Lampard in the DM role, even though he's around the same age Gerrard is more mobile and able to close players down faster, Wilshere is one of our better players technically, Cleverly has been poor this season but he works well with Wilshere when we try and press the opposition (Like the match against Brazil at Wembley) Carrick needs to play, simple as that, he can keep us ticking in midfield.

You're right, England's best midfield three is definitely Carrick - Gerrard - Wilshere.

SFL is a great option to have but he isn't a starter anymore.

England's best XI is probably (in my opinion atm):

Hart

Johnson - Jones - Cahill - Cole(?)

Carrick

Wilshere - Gerrard

Walcott - Rooney - Sturridge

[Sheva. 5,373]

Should be a super-sub for club and country.

@the Juve supporter

Lol.

[Reddish-Blue 2,396]

Definitely shouldn't be starting for England.

You're right, England's best midfield three is definitely Carrick - Gerrard - Wilshere.

SFL is a great option to have but he isn't a starter anymore.

England's best XI is probably (in my opinion atm):
Hart
Johnson - Jones - Cahill - Cole(?)
Carrick
Wilshere - Gerrard
Walcott - Rooney - Sturridge

If Cole was in form, he'd be starting without a doubt...but he is ageing and I guess it's time to give Baines/Shaw/Gibbs the opportunity.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

I disagree, he was poor, in the second half i forgot he was playing....

I've been saying it for a while, Lampard shouldn't be a starter for England, we look more solid and play better football with the likes of Gerrard, Wilshere, Cleverly and Carrick in midfield. Imo Gerrard is better than Lampard in the DM role, even though he's around the same age Gerrard is more mobile and able to close players down faster, Wilshere is one of our better players technically, Cleverly has been poor this season but he works well with Wilshere when we try and press the opposition (Like the match against Brazil at Wembley) Carrick needs to play, simple as that, he can keep us ticking in midfield.

Well I only watched parts of the first half and the last 10 mins of the second. And from what I saw, I thought he was defensively disciplined and was the first from the midfield to track back on counters. But I agree, I think the two in the center for England should obviously be Carrick and Wilshere. Miles ahead of the others.