Vesper 30,190 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 6 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: Tbf I am not sure why Ole or Frank would be much higher giving their limited experience in the PL and ESPN have ranked it as many would expect. Ole has more but other than the bounce before he got the United job and that spell at Cardiff still very much unproven. Although same is said for Norwich, Villa Sheffield managers. Rodgers being higher up based off two really good seasons (one with Swansea one with Liverpool) as well is odd, good spell at Celtic, think the job he did there is underrated due to the standard although when you look at European games, he had a poor European record. did you see some rated higher???? non EPl or EPL fails Daniel Farke, Norwich City wtf Dean Smith, Aston Villa Javi Gracia, Watford <<<< might give him a break Marco Silva, Everton <<< already sacked twice in the EPL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 37 minutes ago, Vesper said: did you see some rated higher???? non EPl or EPL fails Daniel Farke, Norwich City wtf Dean Smith, Aston Villa Javi Gracia, Watford <<<< might give him a break Marco Silva, Everton <<< already sacked twice in the EPL Yeah the newly promoted guys not sure why theyre higher either except for maybe the fact theyve done other things in other leagues and have more managerial experience (I would imagine that is why the likes of Emery, Pellegrini etc are in the top 6 or 7 too without being outstanding managers). Silva and Garcia have been tried and tested. Silva has maybe disappointed, although his start at Watford was difficult to maintain. Wasnt sacked at Hull though he resigned. Sacked at Watford though. Gracia has done steady enough for Watford too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,490 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 On 7/24/2019 at 9:11 AM, Jason said: It's not compulsory to fill all the 17 non-HG and 8 HG slots. James, CHO and Mount will be in the U21 list, not HG as you mentioned above. As it stands, our squad is pretty bloated: Non-Homegrown (17) Kepa Caballero Rudiger Luiz Alonso Zappacosta Azpi Emerson Zouma Jorginho Kante Kovacic Bakayoko Pedro Willian Giroud Batshuayi Homegrown (5) Christensen Drinkwater Barkley Loftus-Cheek Abraham U21* (5) Cumming James Hudson-Odoi Pulisic Mount * For the 2019/20 season, U21 players will consist of players born on or after 1 January 1998. Does Zouma not count as HG? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 1 minute ago, Strike said: Does Zouma not count as HG? We bought him in 2014, the year he turned 20. Definitely didn't spend enough years in England to be counted as HG. Strike 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 What do you guys think about Lamps so far?Win lose or draw I'm loving it to be honest. Frank's the greatest and I'll enjoy every second he's here as manager. Guy is exactly what we need given current issues and whilst that may not translate to instant results, could help to ensure the talent of some our great youngsters is put on show who can become regular first teamers for years to come.I see this year as a bit of a free roll (I doubt roman and Co do though) Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 2 hours ago, Mana said: To be fair with ESPN, they aren't wrong. Lampard has YET to manage a PL game. So the list of worst coaches behind Lampard, it's funny because before Lampard has his first game, there are already managers worse than him. The ones rated higher? When Lampard starts to win PL games, he'll be above them ASAP. Agreed, and I think even 16th is flattering. The only one with 0 trophies and no serious career highlights, the least experienced of the lot. Isn't ranked bottom last probably only because of his reputation, I am pretty sure some randomer who appeared out of nowhere and did the same with Derby would be put last without hesitation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 On 29/07/2019 at 2:25 AM, BlueLyon said: What do you guys think about Lamps so far? It's impossible to judge him properly until we get a couple of months into the season. The first two games will be difficult and to be honest if we get anything from Old Trafford and give Liverpool a competitive game I would take that as a stepping stone. From what I've seen in pre season however, I like the flexibility he's shown and the pressing game he wants to bring in. I do think in recent seasons we've been massively off the likes of City and Liverpool in this regard and I do think it's a way of 'moving on' from Hazard as it would be a very difficult tactic to adopt with him in the team because he doesn't like to do those sort of things. I think it should also be noted how calm this pre season seems to have been both within the media and us as fans. Any other time the club was slapped with a transfer ban and lost their best player (and some of our other key players out with injuries) it would be a huge crisis but he's brought a sense of calm to the club and is excellent within the media which I think helps massively for everybody to clearly understand what he wants or is trying to achieve. I think for most there is a quiet confidence that if we can get a bit of confidence and momentum built up early, we could have a good first season under him (which for me would be getting top 4). manpe and Vesper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Vesper and Bosnian Blue 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,075 Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 8 hours ago, Jason said: If Roman was watching Chelsea outclass Salzburg last night then what game were we watching? If outclassing means beating a team because, and only because, you have better players than they do then, yes, we outclassed them. Otherwise there is a lot to be unhappy about. communicate, Mana and Vesper 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 Jose Mourinho's hopes for Frank Lampard at Chelsea Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 CLs sides = pub sides in modern day ? Milan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 6 minutes ago, Mana said: Pub sides to Chelsea. They are a fecking Austrian club. They only get CL because they finish top in their small league almost every season unchallenged. Are Malmo, Krasnodar and Qarabag good sides as they were in the CL? I sense there is a self-fulfilling prophecy going on with you. Just waiting for the day for you to come here and say "I TOLD YOU SO!"... Milan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomiswave 6,117 Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 Luiz should not be our starting CB, give me Rudi and Chris/Zouma anyday. He will be useful but not a starter for every damn match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,145 Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 3 hours ago, Mana said: Pub sides to Chelsea. They are a fecking Austrian club. They only get CL because they finish top in their small league almost every season unchallenged. Are Malmo, Krasnodar and Qarabag good sides as they were in the CL? Your underestimating them. Just because they don't have any 'star' names, they are a good team. If we beat RB Leipzig, I guarantee you would have considered it a win against strong opponents. Salzburg done the double over Leipzig home and away last season. Were clearly a class above Celtic last season too. Battered them at home and beat them away from home in a game they had nothing to play for but pride and Celtic needed to win. Season before in EL, also were unbeaten against Dortmund over 2 games and beat Dortmund in their own backyard. Napoli went through against them this season but again Salzburg gave them a run for their money second leg, managed to beat them, however went out on aggregate. They definitely could have upset one of the big boys last season. Many Arsenal fans I knew were not wanting to face Salzburg. Tomo, OneMoSalah and Bosnian Blue 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,382 Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 It’s sad because Luiz is instrumental in our build up play from the back, yet is so inconsistent defensively. Need to see how the Christensen+Rudiger pairing does Atomiswave and Bosnian Blue 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,056 Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 Pub sides to Chelsea. They are a fecking Austrian club. They only get CL because they finish top in their small league almost every season unchallenged. Are Malmo, Krasnodar and Qarabag good sides as they were in the CL?Is this another "Frankfurt aren't a big club" moment?Dont underestimate teams you know little about. They consistently do well in Europe rather than get knocked out at the group stages like some of the teams you mentioned. Tomo, OneMoSalah, Milan and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milan 17,958 Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 4 minutes ago, LAM09 said: Is this another "Frankfurt aren't a big club" moment? Dont underestimate teams you know little about. They consistently do well in Europe rather than get knocked out at the group stages like some of the teams you mentioned. Nah, he didn't even know Frankfurt existed, that is something completely different. What I find the most ignorant or insulting is calling them 'a fucking Austrian club'. He just insulted thousands of people. LAM09 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,324 Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 4 minutes ago, Mana said: Looks like I know Salzburg more than you do. They get consistently knocked out in the CL group stages. Last time they played CL was in 1994-1995 season. They get consistently knocked out in CL qualification. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 RB Salzburg did this to Guardiola's Bayern... #JustSayin Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,056 Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 Looks like I know Salzburg more than you do. They get consistently knocked out in the CL group stages qualification.Does Europe only consist of the Champions League, if so, where were we last season? [emoji17]Stop undermining teams due to your ignorance.Check Group B - https://www.skysports.com/europa-league-table Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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