🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Frank Lampard

[manpe 10,861]

I love Bryant.. man I grew up watching Lakers games just because of Shaq and Kobe. I watched All-Star game and Lakers vs Heat because of him (I might start watching NBA more often now because Chelsea games alone are now depressing more than anything). I know a bit about lakers background and I think Lampard isn't half to Chelsea what Kobe is to Lakers. Having said that, you guys are right.. a legend is a legend and they should uplift the team no matter what. It's just that Lampard simply doesn't have the "hops" and the "hoops" anymore (if to use basketball terms), but he still wants to play a key part and he shot himself and the team in the foot with that... he has to stop with the ridiculous comments and start earning his place in the team, rather than just talking into it.

[francozola 2,040]

He's been doing those kinds of celebrations all season. He knows that the regulars that go to Stamford Bridge were anti-AVB and pro-oldguard so he used that to his advantage.

And he not only tapped the badge against Bolton, he also raised both his hands and defiantly brought them down while pointing at the ground in a "I belong here and I'm not going anywhere" manner. At first I shrugged it off and thought maybe it was a call-back to his goal at the Reebok to win the title because he does the same thing when he scores there, but it just doesn't make sense and I believe in his mind he wanted to send the fans a message. He also stopped abruptly while doing the hand thing so he probably wasn't thinking when he started doing it and then realized so he stopped.

Thoughts?

[laura90 556]

Thoughts?

Just a thought. Maybe he was trying to say " I need to play over Meireles. I am as bad, but at least I can score, and contribute little more "

I realise that his behaviour was inappropriate. However if he was replaced with lets say Pastore in form, or any other midfielder who could take us to the top four. Maybe in that case Chelsea would actually play a lot better without him in continuity and keep winning. Would his reactions remained the same?

There are reasons to be disappointed in every aspect of this club. Every. But that is a consequence of extreme situations this club and it's staff are going trough due to bad decisions taken in the past. It's like running a firm. Bad decision after another and soon enough workers don't get salaries and riots begin.

Chelsea FC has the money, but requires success. Firms money is our success. No success and you have...well it's shown.

If players indeed made troubles in the past, they should have been replaced while ago.

We do not have the team that is able to achieve what is expected from above. Everything else is part of the package.

I don't defend Lampard here.

[Rubber bullets 1,183]

With the Merieles thing. I honestly would play him over Lampard every day of the week Simply becuase he will try his hardest give it all, not sulk around, play like he wants tto be somewhere else or try and create mutiny against a manager for dropping him.

[Badboy 1,526]

You know what Sam, that really shocked me. Lampard has always been the superb pro, he has always conducted himself in a brilliant way (except for a few times in his private life allegedly). I think the reason why Frank reacted that way was because he felt that AVB was going to chop him out the team next season, frank is taking a chance on a new manager coming in and looking at his goal record and thinking he still has ''a lot to offer''. That is how a few members of our squad have stayed longer then they should, its because new managers keep thinking they still have it in them. Fergie has been at United that long that he just feels it when an Andy Cole or Beckham is coming to the end.

[kiaretta985 131]

[zolayes 14,489]

it must be remembered a good % of Frank's goals are from the penalty spot.

[Drogzola 283]

With the Merieles thing. I honestly would play him over Lampard every day of the week Simply becuase he will try his hardest give it all, not sulk around, play like he wants tto be somewhere else or try and create mutiny against a manager for dropping him.

To be honest I feel like Merieles is already sulking and playing with no intent and he has just started at the club. What happens to him when he really gets down and doesn't want to be on the pitch or is not happy with the coach.

[Mceachran 109]

With the Merieles thing. I honestly would play him over Lampard every day of the week Simply becuase he will try his hardest give it all, not sulk around, play like he wants tto be somewhere else or try and create mutiny against a manager for dropping him.

I'd like to calmly (although I want to burst) disagree. When I watch Merieles defend, it's like watching a street baller put on studs and try to kick someone down. When I watch Lampard defend, it isn't always brilliant but he routinely makes stellar sliding tackles in midfield....oh and he STILL scores goals.

I'm not opposed to letting someone better or younger start to ween him out, but I just think you're wrong there.

[Rubber bullets 1,183]

I'd like to calmly (although I want to burst) disagree. When I watch Merieles defend, it's like watching a street baller put on studs and try to kick someone down. When I watch Lampard defend, it isn't always brilliant but he routinely makes stellar sliding tackles in midfield....oh and he STILL scores goals.

I'm not opposed to letting someone better or younger start to ween him out, but I just think you're wrong there.

So even though Lampard has been egotistical, selfish and downright disrespectful not just to AVB, but to the fans (who some have their mouths firmly down his cock they get offended when anyone gives constructful criticis on him) by playing like he could not give a damn just to make a point, we should keep him on just becuase others might not be as good.

But even then, lets not make the number of goals he scored (3 were penalties and one was a complete fluke) mask over the fact as a midfielder he is one of the most slow, uncreative players we have. Some people act as if Raul has no legs, he may not score goals and might not be able to tackle well. But atleast his a bit quicker, has more drive and can adapt to different formations and tactics. Its pathetic that Lampard can only play in a 4-3-3 that uses the tactics Jose uses. Its lik his a one-dimensional player.

[manpe 10,861]

He's been doing those kinds of celebrations all season. He knows that the regulars that go to Stamford Bridge were anti-AVB and pro-oldguard so he used that to his advantage.

And he not only tapped the badge against Bolton, he also raised both his hands and defiantly brought them down while pointing at the ground in a "I belong here and I'm not going anywhere" manner. At first I shrugged it off and thought maybe it was a call-back to his goal at the Reebok to win the title because he does the same thing when he scores there, but it just doesn't make sense and I believe in his mind he wanted to send the fans a message. He also stopped abruptly while doing the hand thing so he probably wasn't thinking when he started doing it and then realized so he stopped.

Thoughts?

I think you're over analyzing. I think the hand gesture was exactly that "this is where I scored our title winning goals". We don't know the person so it's almost impossible to say what he really meant.

Lol this is almost becoming like those illuminati videos in youtube I don't know what to believe anymore.

[neel 257]

it must be remembered a good % of Frank's goals are from the penalty spot.

"Statistics are like mini skirts. They give you good ideas, but hide the most important parts." --unknown

[capriccioso 2,545]

Just pretend he wasn't involved in the coup, and look at him objectively: he offers little to the team apart from goals, if Lukaku matures or we buy a decent striker his role is redundant. Terminate his contract in the summer, and Raul Meireles' for good measure, and sign a couple of decent young midfielders to replace them. Or we could use Romeu/McEachran instead but we could use the depth.

[Aussiedan 154]

Frank Lampard is a Chelsea legend, and he will always be one and can't believe Chelsea fans turning their back on him over the sacking of AVB and his poor form and attitude this season, after all he has done for this club. Let me just remind you, what he has done for this club.

Frank Lampard - Career with Chelsea

Joined 2001(11 years with Chelsea)

543 Appearances (4th in all time appearances for Chelsea)

182 Goals (3rd in all time goal scoring for Chelsea)

115 Assists

Trophies won with Chelsea;

Premier League (3): 2004–05, 2005–06, 2009–10

FA Cup (3): 2007, 2009, 2010

League Cup (2): 2005, 2007

FA Community Shield (2): 2005, 2009

World Football Challenge (1): 2009

Barclays Asia Trophy (2): 2003, 2011

Individual Awards won while at Chelsea;

2005 FIFA World Player of the Year - Silver Award

2005 Ballon d'Or - Silver Award

FWA Footballer of the Year - 2005

UEFA Club Midfielder of the Year - 2008

World XI - 2005

PFA Fans' Player of the Year - 2005

Premier League : Player of the Decade, (2000–2009) according to official statistics

Premier League : Best player (2) - 2004–05, 2005–06

England Player of the Year - 2004, 2005

Premier League Player of the Month - September 2003, April 2005, October 2005, October 2008

Premier League Player of the Season - 2004-05, 2005–06

Chelsea Player of the Year - 2004, 2005, 2009

PFA Premier League Team of the Year - 2004, 2005, 2006

Premier League : 2004–05 Barclays Merit Award (for 164 consecutive appearances)

ESM Team of the Year - 2004/2005, 2005/2006, 2009/2010

FWA Tribute Award - 2010

Premier League : leader in assists - 2004–05 : 16 assists, 2009–10 : 17 assists

FA Cup: Best player - 2006–07, 2008–09, 2009–10

FA Cup Final Man of the Match: 2007

Carling Cup : Best player - 2004–05, 2006–07

Premier League : Midfielder with the most goals in premier league history - 145 goals

Chelsea F.C. : Top goalscorer - 2004–05, 2005–06, 2007–08

Goal of the Month - April 2010

2011 Barclays Asia Trophy - player of tournament

2003 FA Premier League Asia Cup - player of tournament

only player to score at least 10 goals in nine consecutive seasons in the Premier League.

FA Cup 2006–07 leading goal scorer : 6 goals

He is one of the Chelsea most achieved and best player we've ever seen. Just because one season where his form hasn't been the Frank Lampard we've been used too and he hasn't shown the best attitude because he hasn't been playing as much as he would like too, doesn't mean you shouldn't forget about all he has done for this club, staying loyal in the 11 years where his been so good for us, scoring important goals and playing some great matches where it's matter most.

His just desperate to play for Chelsea, he still loves Chelsea no doubt, he just didn't have a good relationship with AVB. If he couldn't take that he wasn't getting much playing time and couldn't put up with AVB he could've requested a transfer in the Summer transfer window in January.

But no, he didn't and his kept at it trying to win back his place in the team he loves and wants to play and get success for.

he'll always be a Chelsea legend to me and you're kidding yourself not to think he isn't, just because of one bad season.

[BleedsBlue 1,549]

All of you haters will start praising him if he scores tonight.

[Chelsea? 892]

Frank Lampard is a Chelsea legend, and he will always be one and can't believe Chelsea fans turning their back on him over the sacking of AVB and his poor form and attitude this season, after all he has done for this club. Let me just remind you, what he has done for this club.

Frank Lampard - Career with Chelsea

Joined 2001(11 years with Chelsea)

543 Appearances (4th in all time appearances for Chelsea)

182 Goals (3rd in all time goal scoring for Chelsea)

115 Assists

Trophies won with Chelsea;

Premier League (3): 2004–05, 2005–06, 2009–10

FA Cup (3): 2007, 2009, 2010

League Cup (2): 2005, 2007

FA Community Shield (2): 2005, 2009

World Football Challenge (1): 2009

Barclays Asia Trophy (2): 2003, 2011

Individual Awards won while at Chelsea;

2005 FIFA World Player of the Year - Silver Award

2005 Ballon d'Or - Silver Award

FWA Footballer of the Year - 2005

UEFA Club Midfielder of the Year - 2008

World XI - 2005

PFA Fans' Player of the Year - 2005

Premier League : Player of the Decade, (2000–2009) according to official statistics

Premier League : Best player (2) - 2004–05, 2005–06

England Player of the Year - 2004, 2005

Premier League Player of the Month - September 2003, April 2005, October 2005, October 2008

Premier League Player of the Season - 2004-05, 2005–06

Chelsea Player of the Year - 2004, 2005, 2009

PFA Premier League Team of the Year - 2004, 2005, 2006

Premier League : 2004–05 Barclays Merit Award (for 164 consecutive appearances)

ESM Team of the Year - 2004/2005, 2005/2006, 2009/2010

FWA Tribute Award - 2010

Premier League : leader in assists - 2004–05 : 16 assists, 2009–10 : 17 assists

FA Cup: Best player - 2006–07, 2008–09, 2009–10

FA Cup Final Man of the Match: 2007

Carling Cup : Best player - 2004–05, 2006–07

Premier League : Midfielder with the most goals in premier league history - 145 goals

Chelsea F.C. : Top goalscorer - 2004–05, 2005–06, 2007–08

Goal of the Month - April 2010

2011 Barclays Asia Trophy - player of tournament

2003 FA Premier League Asia Cup - player of tournament

only player to score at least 10 goals in nine consecutive seasons in the Premier League.

FA Cup 2006–07 leading goal scorer : 6 goals

He is one of the Chelsea most achieved and best player we've ever seen. Just because one season where his form hasn't been the Frank Lampard we've been used too and he hasn't shown the best attitude because he hasn't been playing as much as he would like too, doesn't mean you shouldn't forget about all he has done for this club, staying loyal in the 11 years where his been so good for us, scoring important goals and playing some great matches where it's matter most.

His just desperate to play for Chelsea, he still loves Chelsea no doubt, he just didn't have a good relationship with AVB. If he couldn't take that he wasn't getting much playing time and couldn't put up with AVB he could've requested a transfer in the Summer transfer window in January.

But no, he didn't and his kept at it trying to win back his place in the team he loves and wants to play and get success for.

he'll always be a Chelsea legend to me and you're kidding yourself not to think he isn't, just because of one bad season.

that gives him a right to act this way?

[daBlackMamba7 174]

Frank Lampard is a Chelsea legend, and he will always be one and can't believe Chelsea fans turning their back on him over the sacking of AVB and his poor form and attitude this season, after all he has done for this club. Let me just remind you, what he has done for this club.

Frank Lampard - Career with Chelsea

Joined 2001(11 years with Chelsea)

543 Appearances (4th in all time appearances for Chelsea)

182 Goals (3rd in all time goal scoring for Chelsea)

115 Assists

Trophies won with Chelsea;

Premier League (3): 2004–05, 2005–06, 2009–10

FA Cup (3): 2007, 2009, 2010

League Cup (2): 2005, 2007

FA Community Shield (2): 2005, 2009

World Football Challenge (1): 2009

Barclays Asia Trophy (2): 2003, 2011

Individual Awards won while at Chelsea;

2005 FIFA World Player of the Year - Silver Award

2005 Ballon d'Or - Silver Award

FWA Footballer of the Year - 2005

UEFA Club Midfielder of the Year - 2008

World XI - 2005

PFA Fans' Player of the Year - 2005

Premier League : Player of the Decade, (2000–2009) according to official statistics

Premier League : Best player (2) - 2004–05, 2005–06

England Player of the Year - 2004, 2005

Premier League Player of the Month - September 2003, April 2005, October 2005, October 2008

Premier League Player of the Season - 2004-05, 2005–06

Chelsea Player of the Year - 2004, 2005, 2009

PFA Premier League Team of the Year - 2004, 2005, 2006

Premier League : 2004–05 Barclays Merit Award (for 164 consecutive appearances)

ESM Team of the Year - 2004/2005, 2005/2006, 2009/2010

FWA Tribute Award - 2010

Premier League : leader in assists - 2004–05 : 16 assists, 2009–10 : 17 assists

FA Cup: Best player - 2006–07, 2008–09, 2009–10

FA Cup Final Man of the Match: 2007

Carling Cup : Best player - 2004–05, 2006–07

Premier League : Midfielder with the most goals in premier league history - 145 goals

Chelsea F.C. : Top goalscorer - 2004–05, 2005–06, 2007–08

Goal of the Month - April 2010

2011 Barclays Asia Trophy - player of tournament

2003 FA Premier League Asia Cup - player of tournament

only player to score at least 10 goals in nine consecutive seasons in the Premier League.

FA Cup 2006–07 leading goal scorer : 6 goals

He is one of the Chelsea most achieved and best player we've ever seen. Just because one season where his form hasn't been the Frank Lampard we've been used too and he hasn't shown the best attitude because he hasn't been playing as much as he would like too, doesn't mean you shouldn't forget about all he has done for this club, staying loyal in the 11 years where his been so good for us, scoring important goals and playing some great matches where it's matter most.

His just desperate to play for Chelsea, he still loves Chelsea no doubt, he just didn't have a good relationship with AVB. If he couldn't take that he wasn't getting much playing time and couldn't put up with AVB he could've requested a transfer in the Summer transfer window in January.

But no, he didn't and his kept at it trying to win back his place in the team he loves and wants to play and get success for.

he'll always be a Chelsea legend to me and you're kidding yourself not to think he isn't, just because of one bad season.

And so bloody what?...He didnt do all this for free remember as well?...Seems you dont know what legends are made of, when you do come back let us have a conversation and if you are bold enough to reply this with something, then we will start a legend/stat war.....Are you game?

[capriccioso 2,545]

AussieDan, a legend does not put his own interest ahead of the club. A legend is not supposed to be selfish. A legend is supposed to know whats best, and what was best for the club was to let Villas-Boas give his project a go. Now he's been denied of that, in acrimonious circumstances. And no-one, from a player, manager, owner, board member, down to the cleaner is bigger than the club, regardless of how much money they've ploughed into the club, regardless of how many goals and how many trophies they've won.

This was an enormously selfish act, him and his cronies could not accept the very easily acceptable fact that they were over the hill and it was time for them to wind down their careers. So they got benched once or twice, thats no reason to go have a fucking sulk. If you are truly a legend you'll either work doubly hard in training and in the matchday opportunities you're given to force your way back in or you'll accept it and not complain.

Just look at the Australian cricket team. Ricky Ponting did far more for Australian cricket than Frank Lampard ever did for Chelsea, and the selectors had no qualms about ending his ODI career after 3 or 4 poor performances. He is widely considered to be the greatest batter we've produced since Bradman (who for those of you who don't follow cricket, is by far the greatest player in the sports history), a football equivalent would be Napoli terminating Diego Maradona's contract. Why did they do it? Because there is no room whatsoever for past glories in sport. It's all about now, if you focus on what people have achieved in the past, you're only going to hurt your own chances. Why is it that a manager gets asked questions by the majority of us after 3-4 bad games but the legends rarely do? Its not his fault, its the players fault.

We can't afford to carry a 150k a week (or whatever he's on) burden on a 34 year old who's gone around the block a time or two. Think of what we could do with that money, we could easily entice a far superior player, maybe even Schweinsteiger, or anyone who'd significantly improve our team. There is absolutely 0% chance we will improve as a team if Lampard keeps playing for us, he's hit his peak years ago and now he's nearing the base of his abilities.

[zolayes 14,489]

All of you haters will start praising him if he scores tonight.

sorry but I won't and if he puts in a fantastic EFFORT tonight ,,I will respect him even less

[daBlackMamba7 174]

AussieDan, a legend does not put his own interest ahead of the club. A legend is not supposed to be selfish. A legend is supposed to know whats best, and what was best for the club was to let Villas-Boas give his project a go. Now he's been denied of that, in acrimonious circumstances. And no-one, from a player, manager, owner, board member, down to the cleaner is bigger than the club, regardless of how much money they've ploughed into the club, regardless of how many goals and how many trophies they've won.

This was an enormously selfish act, him and his cronies could not accept the very easily acceptable fact that they were over the hill and it was time for them to wind down their careers. So they got benched once or twice, thats no reason to go have a fucking sulk. If you are truly a legend you'll either work doubly hard in training and in the matchday opportunities you're given to force your way back in or you'll accept it and not complain.