Non-Chelsea Transfer Pub

[Hutcho 8,443]

Lose 10 players. 7/8 of whom are in or around the first team squad. And replace them with 4 guys?

We should get costa and we won't get the rest.

[DanishBlue 426]

Well, I'm sure we will buy more players than just Costa, a CM is almost a must and Mou knows that. Maybe Vidal is too expensive but I wouldn't be that surprised if we bought someone close to his level. I see this window as Mourinhos "**** them all-we are winning the title next year-window".

[Jype 6,398]

Lose 10 players. 7/8 of whom are in or around the first team squad. And replace them with 4 guys?

We should get costa and we won't get the rest.

Actually his list only contains 6 first team squad players (Luiz, Mikel, Ramires, Lamps, Torres, Cole), four of whom would be directly replaced if we got the players he suggested.

Anyway if we sold / released all six, we'd be quite thin up front and only have Matic and MvG left in midfield so only one incoming player for each position simply wouldn't be enough, no matter who they were. Would need at least one squad player in midfield, unless Mourinho was for giving a proper chance in the first team for at least two out of Chalobah, Baker and RLC which I personally can't see happening next year when the pressure is on us to win the league after a trophyless season.

In defense I'd say we will be fine with getting just a new left-back to replace Cole and maybe another CB as well to replace Luiz if there's still enough money left and Mourinho thinks one is absolutely needed instead of trusting Kalas and / or Zouma. Remember that Ivanovic can still play perfectly well at CB and I have a feeling he will be playing there more next season with a new LB and Azpi as our preferred full-back pairing so Terry, Cahill, Ivanovic, Kalas/Zouma will be enough I think. For a backup left-back we can recall Van Aanholt or Bertrand, although I don't think the latter is willing to be a backup anymore and will probably be sold this summer.

[Hutcho 8,443]

Actually his list only contains 6 first team squad players (Luiz, Mikel, Ramires, Lamps, Torres, Cole), four of whom would be directly replaced if we got the players he suggested.

Anyway if we sold / released all six, we'd be quite thin up front and only have Matic and MvG left in midfield so only one incoming player for each position simply wouldn't be enough, no matter who they were. Would need at least one squad player in midfield, unless Mourinho was for giving a proper chance in the first team for at least two out of Chalobah, Baker and RLC which I personally can't see happening next year when the pressure is on us to win the league after a trophyless season.

In defense I'd say we will be fine with getting just a new left-back to replace Cole and maybe another CB as well to replace Luiz if there's still enough money left and Mourinho thinks one is absolutely needed instead of trusting Kalas and / or Zouma. Remember that Ivanovic can still play perfectly well at CB and I have a feeling he will be playing there more next season with a new LB and Azpi as our preferred full-back pairing so Terry, Cahill, Ivanovic, Kalas/Zouma will be enough I think. For a backup left-back we can recall Van Aanholt or Bertrand, although I don't think the latter is willing to be a backup anymore and will probably be sold this summer.

If lukaku stays he would be a first team squad player along with romeu probably. Besides nearly 0 chance we get varane and vidal.

And tbh do really wanna be getting rid of Cole lampard ramires all in one go. I wouldn't.

Just seems completely I realistic for a "likely" ins and outs.

Keep lukaku. Make him no. 2 behind Costa. He will get plenty of game time and the 2 could probably play alongside each other at some point.

Keep Cole because getting rid of him is crazy when he has proved in the last month his quality.

Keep lampard because he is lampard can come on for 15 mins of the bench and make a big impact.

I don't think we need to get rid of ramires either tbh.

It's not like we need to have a huge transfer window so we need to sell off a load of players. Lampard and Cole would go on a free which wouldn't generate any income.

And I agree we should give our youth more of a chance. We won the U21 prem yesterday but sadly very very few of those will ever see the first team.

[Reddish-Blue 2,515]

If lukaku stays he would be a first team squad player along with romeu probably. Besides nearly 0 chance we get varane and vidal.

Keep lukaku. Make him no. 2 behind Costa. He will get plenty of game time and the 2 could probably play alongside each other at some point.

Keep Cole because getting rid of him is crazy when he has proved in the last month his quality.

Keep lampard because he is lampard can come on for 15 mins of the bench and make a big impact.

I don't think we need to get rid of ramires either tbh.

It's not like we need to have a huge transfer window so we need to sell off a load of players. Lampard and Cole would go on a free which wouldn't generate any income.

And I agree we should give our youth more of a chance. We won the U21 prem yesterday but sadly very very few of those will ever see the first team.

Even though I'd love to see the club keep Ashley Cole...at this stage of his career, if he wants to move on and finish his career elsewhere (as in outside the EPL), I don't think we should stand in his way

Just last week...saw this rumour: http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/474792/EXCLUSIVE-Monaco-offer-Chelsea-s-Ashley-Cole-bumper-two-year-contract

[Jype 6,398]

If lukaku stays he would be a first team squad player along with romeu probably. Besides nearly 0 chance we get varane and vidal.

And tbh do really wanna be getting rid of Cole lampard ramires all in one go. I wouldn't.

Just seems completely I realistic for a "likely" ins and outs.

Keep lukaku. Make him no. 2 behind Costa. He will get plenty of game time and the 2 could probably play alongside each other at some point.

Keep Cole because getting rid of him is crazy when he has proved in the last month his quality.

Keep lampard because he is lampard can come on for 15 mins of the bench and make a big impact.

I don't think we need to get rid of ramires either tbh.

It's not like we need to have a huge transfer window so we need to sell off a load of players. Lampard and Cole would go on a free which wouldn't generate any income.

And I agree we should give our youth more of a chance. We won the U21 prem yesterday but sadly very very few of those will ever see the first team.

Yeah I know we're not getting Vidal or Varane, was just commenting on the departures.

Agree on Lukaku, if he's willing to play second fiddle to someone like Costa it really is a no-brainer. If not then sell him for 20-25m and buy someone like Mandzukic instead, wouldn't be the ideal scenario but if Romelu wants to go to a team where he'll be first choice that doesn't leave a lot of options, I'm afraid.

Cole should be released, I'm not letting a few decent performances cloud my judgement because he's been shit for a couple of years now and is on massive wages for someone contributing so little these days.

Agree on Lampard, he should stay for another year. Provides another option in midfield and can still do the job when a goal is needed but shouldn't be a starting player anymore IMO.

Still undecided on Ramires. On his day he can still be a great player but there haven't been too many of those days lately, quite the opposite really, and I really don't like his disciplinary record, this season he often got the team in trouble with his rash challenges and idiotic actions. We should at least look into the possibility of selling him and discretely try to find out how much we could potentially get for him and then make a decision on his future.

But yeah, either way we'll have a lot of money to spend this summer. Only selling the on-loan deadwood like Romeu, Moses, Marin, Bertrand, Kakuta will bring in a lot of funds, not to mention the first teamers that could also be sold like for example Luiz, Mikel and Ba. In addition to that there's some money left from January and players like Essien and Eto'o will also be off the wage bill, which will also be a significant amount of money saved and maybe invested elsewhere.

[Hutcho 8,443]

Yeah that's fair.

I just hate the idea of getting rid of players on frees who would make our rivals better.

Like Ashley Cole could go to spurs and would improve their starting 11.

[petre.ispirescu 4,928]

I see Sky Sports are linking midfielder Dele Alli (18, MK Dons) with both Chelsea and City.

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11668/9311878/transfer-news-manchester-city-and-chelsea-join-the-race-for-mk-dons-star-dele-alli

[sherry33 234]

If lukaku stays he would be a first team squad player along with romeu probably. Besides nearly 0 chance we get varane and vidal.

And tbh do really wanna be getting rid of Cole lampard ramires all in one go. I wouldn't.

Just seems completely I realistic for a "likely" ins and outs.

Keep lukaku. Make him no. 2 behind Costa. He will get plenty of game time and the 2 could probably play alongside each other at some point.

Keep Cole because getting rid of him is crazy when he has proved in the last month his quality.

Keep lampard because he is lampard can come on for 15 mins of the bench and make a big impact.

I don't think we need to get rid of ramires either tbh.

It's not like we need to have a huge transfer window so we need to sell off a load of players. Lampard and Cole would go on a free which wouldn't generate any income.

And I agree we should give our youth more of a chance. We won the U21 prem yesterday but sadly very very few of those will ever see the first team.

Lampard 2/3 matches of this season in which the played he was damn poor. If we continue to play with the same gear next year 3rd place should be the best we can hope for..

[RoyalBlues 4,050]

I see Sky Sports are linking midfielder Dele Alli (18, MK Dons) with both Chelsea and City.

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11668/9311878/transfer-news-manchester-city-and-chelsea-join-the-race-for-mk-dons-star-dele-alli

Heard that they dubbed him the next Gerrard, hope he doesn't slip too much.

[nadavTKL 1,787]

Except Paulinho, still no news at all about a CM.

[iseah100 5,612]

Except Paulinho, still no news at all about a CM.

Give it time, still a ways away from the transfer window opening.

[BloodIsBlue 291]

What a player this guy is. Would be my dream signing for the pivot. Would complement Matic so well.

I was thinking more along the lines of complimenting Hazard very well.

[The Skipper 20,609]

I was thinking more along the lines of complimenting Hazard very well.

Complement both!

[BlueLyon 9,359]

Napoli, Spurs have proved that one world class player is better than 5 average ones. They sold Cavani and bale and bought several prospects yet unproven and they both had average, some would say bad seasons.

Thats the thing, I would prefer us signing world class player (or high quality one) every year instead of going after 5 decent ones every summer (at least in most cases).

One Hazard is better than 5 Salahs or Schurrles...we should sign top striker and top midifelder, not Firmino or Halkanoglu or Mandzo or whoever we been linked with...for bench, we can use youth players or those on loan...for starters, we need quality though.

Youth players would benefit too. Why we signed Van ginkel of we have Baker, RLC and others who look promising enough...Baker could be easily 3rd choice CM next season with regular games in carling cup and maybe FA...and sure with suspensions, injuries etc...he would get some time in PL too. If wont work, just loan him in january. One most important thing: Mou must have trust in him and see him as future...or elsewhere its pointless.

I dont want us to sign anymore young prospects or squad-depth signings as we already have several such players on loan and in academy. If we are about to sign anyone it should be quality players as we need to add some quality and experience to the side.

[iseah100 5,612]

Napoli, Spurs have proved that one world class player is better than 5 average ones. They sold Cavani and bale and bought several prospects yet unproven and they both had average, some would say bad seasons.

Thats the thing, I would prefer us signing world class player (or high quality one) every year instead of going after 5 decent ones every summer (at least in most cases).

One Hazard is better than 5 Salahs or Schurrles...we should sign top striker and top midifelder, not Firmino or Halkanoglu or Mandzo or whoever we been linked with...for bench, we can use youth players or those on loan...for starters, we need quality though.

Youth players would benefit too. Why we signed Van ginkel of we have Baker, RLC and others who look promising enough...Baker could be easily 3rd choice CM next season with regular games in carling cup and maybe FA...and sure with suspensions, injuries etc...he would get some time in PL too. If wont work, just loan him in january. One most important thing: Mou must have trust in him and see him as future...or elsewhere its pointless.

I dont want us to sign anymore young prospects or squad-depth signings as we already have several such players on loan and in academy. If we are about to sign anyone it should be quality players as we need to add some quality and experience to the side.

I agree to a point. You still need young players, but no need to buy them just to loan them. We can get players from.the youth academy. Not every team can have a galacticos either, do Atletico have crazy world class players? Dortmund? Roma? Liverpool? It's not necessary. You do need squad players but this isn't FIFA or FM you need , squad players. Without.Schurrle and Salah Hazard would be burned out.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

I agree to a point. You still need young players, but no need to buy them just to loan them. We can get players from.the youth academy. Not every team can have a galacticos either, do Atletico have crazy world class players? Dortmund? Roma? Liverpool? It's not necessary. You do need squad players but this isn't FIFA or FM you need , squad players. Without.Schurrle and Salah Hazard would be burned out.

I didnt meant to buy world class for every position, but just where we need it.

For example; we are short of quality CM now. So we buy top one for bit more money and we are fixed for next 5? years...but no, we will buy decent one now and he will not deliver, next summer we will sign another decent one and sell the older one etc...like Moses situation.

We bought him, then loaned him, we bought Salah instead...and Marin before all that.

[bushman 2,043]

These are the players who should be sold in the summer.

Marin has no chance to succeed, sold.

Mikel should be allowed to leave. The team should look to promote from within.

BA his opportunities were limited & it won´t get any better for him, sold.

Romeo is not what Chelsea need, sold.

Moses not cut out for Chelsea, sold.

Lukaku this is the biggest dilemma for me. Is he going to accept playing the role of back-up to Costa? I doubt it. No other alternative, but to Cash in.

[Muzchap 8,966]

These are the players who should be sold in the summer.

Marin has no chance to succeed, sold.

Mikel should be allowed to leave. The team should look to promote from within.

BA his opportunities were limited & it won´t get any better for him, sold.

Romeo is not what Chelsea need, sold.

Moses not cut out for Chelsea, sold.

Lukaku this is the biggest dilemma for me. Is he going to accept playing the role of back-up to Costa? I doubt it. No other alternative, but to Cash in.

The Lukaku one is easy - just stick a buy-back clause in there

[bushman 2,043]

The Lukaku one is easy - just stick a buy-back clause in there

:getin:

I wish it was that easy.