Mufassir08 2,400 Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Chelsea scouts watched Nathaniel Clyne last Thursday against Romania and are set to make a £7.5m bid for him this summer (Mirror) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,887 Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Chelsea scouts watched Nathaniel Clyne last Thursday against Romania and are set to make a £7.5m bid for him this summer (Mirror)Does this mean Ivanovic is going to be a CB from now on? JT or Cahill a mere squad player? Azpi is first choice RB in my eyes. Clyne will be on the bench if we sign him. So either Cahill or JT will probably not get as many games as you'd have thought. Clyne is a good solid RB though, only 21 or 22, has big potential. Surprised he ended up at Southampton and not Man United like what was said last summer. Would be happy with him especially for £7.5 million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milan 17,963 Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 And don't forget Wallace who was bought and then loaned back Fluminense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mufassir08 2,400 Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Does this mean Ivanovic is going to be a CB from now on? JT or Cahill a mere squad player? Azpi is first choice RB in my eyes. Clyne will be on the bench if we sign him. So either Cahill or JT will probably not get as many games as you'd have thought. Clyne is a good solid RB though, only 21 or 22, has big potential. Surprised he ended up at Southampton and not Man United like what was said last summer. Would be happy with him especially for £7.5 million.TBH we already have wallace,kalas and kane for the back-up RB spot and as good a player clyne is i think this might become another glen johnson situation because i really cant see clyne displacing azpi anytime soon.We should be looking at their LB instead. OneMoSalah, semiller1313, chelsea_4_eva and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mediator 2,026 Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Don't forget that when we sign someone, it's to send him on loan right after... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace. 4,352 Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 TBH we already have wallace,kalas and kane for the back-up RB spot and as good a player clyne is i think this might become another glen johnson situation because i really cant see clyne displacing azpi anytime soon.We should be looking at their LB instead.Wallace turns 19 years-old in less than 40 days. He has only something like 21 professional games under his belt, in two seasons, and respectively 13 and 2 games in U17 and U20 competitions. From this small sample, it's hard to say whether he will be good enough to take a part in the first team next season.As for Todd Kane, he is 19 and has only played 8 professional games (three of them being in the third division, five in the second division), and eight U19 games. Just as Wallace case, it's likely too early for him to be our right-back back-up.While Azpilicueta has made his way to the RB spot, Ivanovic seems to have been given another role this year. Indeed, he has been more involved in the center of the defence, starting about 18 games as center back (he has played 41 games this season). Moreover, with Terry decline, he might be even more invovled in this area, especially if we don't buy/call-back a center-back this summer. This means that we might need a cover for the right-back spot. It would be pretentious to think that either Kane or Wallace are ready to do that job, especially if Cesar were to pick up a serious injury, or hit a significant deep in form.We will probably need a decent backup for Azpilicueta. Someone just good enough to provide a proper cover — not someone to displace Azpilicueta.That's why Nathaniel Clyne does look like a fine option. If the £7,5m bid were to be high enough to land him, then he would be a relatively cheap signing (plus his wages will probably be not very high). Moreover, he would fit in an home-grown spot — something that we are currently not collapsing under. Finaly, he has played 122 second division games, and 26 Premier League games (starting 26 of them !). He should be good enough to provide cover when called upon. Furthermore, as it stands, he is a more serious option than both Wallace and Kane.On a side note, buying him would not mean writing-off Wallace/Kane. If they are bound to be very good players, Clyne will do a "stopgap" job (I believe that's what the board might be thinking, if the rumors saying we will go for him are true).P.S. I am not advocating for us to buy him, not at all, I am just stating why buying him would actually make sens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDY 1,290 Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Clyne is a Chelsea fan also just to add. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 We need options in defence. We need more English talent especially if Lampard leaves (HG spots etc.) so I guess this Clyne rumour does actually have a decent chance at containing some substance. Also as mentioned above, Ivanovic looks more likely to be sticking to that central role with Terry's decline. Makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Clyne (apparently) & Shaw (definitely) are Chelsea fans. SIGN THEM BOTH! I'd love to have an English back-line even if just for one match. Cole/Shaw; Terry, Cahill, Clyne; against some minnow team. That would be domination. Mmm. The Mak, Bosnian Blue and Hannah 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mufassir08 2,400 Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Wallace turns 19 years-old in less than 40 days. He has only something like 21 professional games under his belt, in two seasons, and respectively 13 and 2 games in U17 and U20 competitions. From this small sample, it's hard to say whether he will be good enough to take a part in the first team next season.As for Todd Kane, he is 19 and has only played 8 professional games (three of them being in the third division, five in the second division), and eight U19 games. Just as Wallace case, it's likely too early for him to be our right-back back-up.While Azpilicueta has made his way to the RB spot, Ivanovic seems to have been given another role this year. Indeed, he has been more involved in the center of the defence, starting about 18 games as center back (he has played 41 games this season). Moreover, with Terry decline, he might be even more invovled in this area, especially if we don't buy/call-back a center-back this summer. This means that we might need a cover for the right-back spot. It would be pretentious to think that either Kane or Wallace are ready to do that job, especially if Cesar were to pick up a serious injury, or hit a significant deep in form.We will probably need a decent backup for Azpilicueta. Someone just good enough to provide a proper cover — not someone to displace Azpilicueta.That's why Nathaniel Clyne does look like a fine option. If the £7,5m bid were to be high enough to land him, then he would be a relatively cheap signing (plus his wages will probably be not very high). Moreover, he would fit in an home-grown spot — something that we are currently not collapsing under. Finaly, he has played 122 second division games, and 26 Premier League games (starting 26 of them !). He should be good enough to provide cover when called upon. Furthermore, as it stands, he is a more serious option than both Wallace and Kane.On a side note, buying him would not mean writing-off Wallace/Kane. If they are bound to be very good players, Clyne will do a "stopgap" job (I believe that's what the board might be thinking, if the rumors saying we will go for him are true).P.S. I am not advocating for us to buy him, not at all, I am just stating why buying him would actually make sens.Yeah agree that kane and wallace are not ready and need atleast 2-3 years before becoming usefull squad players but one player who is ready is kalas imo.He has been very good at RB this season for vitesse and overall has had 2 brilliant seasons at vitesse.I would recall him first rather then splash 7.5 on a stop gap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Williams 166 Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Kalas is already ready to be a backup for Azpi, he has looked VERY good at Vitesse and I have no doubt he would develop very quickly at Chelsea if played against poor teams to rest Azpi. It would take only a couple games for him to look better than Bertrand, I can guarantee you that.Also, Ivanovic always CAN play RB if we need him too, it's easy for us to forget he was a top 5 RB in the world a couple years ago. Although his lack of pace is a bit concerning, he would serve in a pinch if something were to happen to Azpilicueta, although I think Ivanovic's strength suits him better as a center back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 If Strootman or Gundogan can reach their potential, eiher of them would be best option in pivot ahead he likes of Moutinho or Modric.They are both young and posses very balanced play, Gundogan will probably replace Schweini in elf eventualy. But I would first give Kdb a chance or just try 4:3:3 instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FullEnglishBreakfast Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Clyne (apparently) & Shaw (definitely) are Chelsea fans. SIGN THEM BOTH! I'd love to have an English back-line even if just for one match. Cole/Shaw; Terry, Cahill, Clyne; against some minnow team. That would be domination. Mmm.I do love seeing an all English back line. Makes me feel all warm inside. Mundaka and Leif 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 I do love seeing an all English back line. Makes me feel all warm inside.I think thats the breakfast you feel, mate :-) Mundaka 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Richards-Terry-Cahill-Cole/ShawWould be my faw english back four.But Cahill is not world class, Terry is old so is Cole and Micah will never join us. Just a dream though, but a nice one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korea 734 Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Richards-Terry-Cahill-Cole/Shaw Would be my faw english back four. But Cahill is not world class, Terry is old so is Cole and Micah will never join us. Just a dream though, but a nice one...What happen to Richards these days? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mak 4,459 Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Luke Shaw would be beast to have as back up. Especially with Ash showing him the ropes for a few years. Check out his recent twitter Q&A, big hints on where he'd like to go after Southampton:http://www.caughtoffside.com/2013/03/25/chelsea-target-luke-shaw-makes-it-abundantly-clear-he-wants-blues-move-during-twitter-qa/As for Bertrand, well, I've never seen it to be honest. Ok defensively, but bad going forward to say the least, and not quick enough. Even for his age, Shaw looks on Bertrand's level at the moment, if not better. I'd say we could get a bit for Bertrand to fund a Shaw move in the summer, especially if Southampton go down... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 What happen to Richards these days?Injured... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
English Freak 456 Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 If Strootman or Gundogan can reach their potential, eiher of them would be best option in pivot ahead he likes of Moutinho or Modric.They are both young and posses very balanced play, Gundogan will probably replace Schweini in elf eventualy. But I would first give Kdb a chance or just try 4:3:3 instead.I'd be happy to see Strootman at Chelsea...but from what i've heard, he wants to play for Man United.. Luke Shaw would be beast to have as back up. Especially with Ash showing him the ropes for a few years. Check out his recent twitter Q&A, big hints on where he'd like to go after Southampton:http://www.caughtoffside.com/2013/03/25/chelsea-target-luke-shaw-makes-it-abundantly-clear-he-wants-blues-move-during-twitter-qa/As for Bertrand, well, I've never seen it to be honest. Ok defensively, but bad going forward to say the least, and not quick enough. Even for his age, Shaw looks on Bertrand's level at the moment, if not better. I'd say we could get a bit for Bertrand to fund a Shaw move in the summer, especially if Southampton go down...That would be awesome and any potential deal would benefit both Luke Shaw and Bertrand...as-in:Shaw would learn from Cole & take over the LB spot and Bertrand could develop his game by playing regularly without any pressure (e.g. like Jack Cork who is starting to impress for Southampton)But for now, this is just a dream. The Mak 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mufassir08 2,400 Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 Our backup goalkeeper for next season?http://www.givemefootball.com/336749-montenegro-goalkeeper-sets-sights-on-chelsea-transfer?tg=chelsea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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