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BREAKING NEWS: Liverpool and Dortmund have reached an agreement over the transfer of Reus. They've agreed it's never going to happen. [emoji23]

It reminds me the day when we signed Hector and Djilobodji on the same day.

What the fuck? After being one of the best midfielders in the Bundesliga this year, I honestly think he should have a say in his future. I'm pretty sure he would be happy either returning to Chelsea o

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but I like that his link up play is good and he allows us to at least play reasonably well in terms of creativity and movement.

I can"t believe I am reading this? You still think that way even after watching all these games and him being nothing else but a crap?

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Yes, actually I would. People are vastly overrating Sturridge out of the desperation to find an alternative to Torres. Sturridge is not really better IMO. I'm pretty tired of Torres too but I like that his link up play is good and he allows us to at least play reasonably well in terms of creativity and movement. More so than Sturridge who I think just does not have a future here.

Add in other factors like Torres' wages and Sturridge's contract situation and its clear which one needs to go first.

His injury hindered his development in the team so far. If Danny had the same amount of time to 'mould' with the front 3, I think we would of made more out of it than Torres. Thats the only advantage I can see that Torres has over Danny. Other than that, Danny has shown more striker attributes than Torres. We don't need another CAM, we need a striker, somebody to shoot the fukin ball lol..

Fair point with the wages and contract, but Torres is gonna sulk his little socks off if he becomes second fiddle, playing as many minutes as Danny is atm.

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His injury hindered his development in the team so far. If Danny had the same amount of time to 'mould' with the front 3, I think we would of made more out of it than Torres. Thats the only advantage I can see that Torres has over Danny. Other than that, Danny has shown more striker attributes than Torres. We don't need another CAM, we need a striker, somebody to shoot the fukin ball lol..

Fair point with the wages and contract, but Torres is gonna sulk his little socks off if he becomes second fiddle, playing as many minutes as Danny is atm.

Look, I want them both gone, but unlike everyone else, I'm thinking rationally and acknowledge we can't and won't get rid of them in the same window. As such, I want Sturridge gone first.

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If we're looking to buy a new striker, Fernando Llorente would be a realistic option and I think we should at least be looking into that. Maybe he's not exactly on the level of Falcao or Cavani but neither of them are available in January and would cost at least five times as much even if they were. Llorente's contract is up next summer and he's been sidelined this season by Marcelo Bielsa after he declined to sign a new contract and tried to force a move in the summer transfer window so I'd guess he's willing to leave in January and not wait till next summer to find a new club. A maximum of £10-15m for a very much proven goalscorer doesn't sound all that bad, does it?

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Look, I want them both gone, but unlike everyone else, I'm thinking rationally and acknowledge we can't and won't get rid of them in the same window. As such, I want Sturridge gone first.

Fair enough sir

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http://www.weaintgot...lace-fluminense

Apparently we had 50% rights for the talented youngster as part of the Deco deal...it's great if we have signed him (our RB spot will be solid for many years to come with Azpi and Wallace) but I'm taking this with a pinch of salt. Need to wait for some official confirmation.

Yeah we owned 40 percent of his rights, it seems we've bought the other 60 now so we own him outright.

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Yes, actually I would. People are vastly overrating Sturridge out of the desperation to find an alternative to Torres. Sturridge is not really better IMO. I'm pretty tired of Torres too but I like that his link up play is good and he allows us to at least play reasonably well in terms of creativity and movement. More so than Sturridge who I think just does not have a future here.

Add in other factors like Torres' wages and Sturridge's contract situation and its clear which one needs to go first.

oh dear god... what did i just read!!!!

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You read an opinion. If you find that odd, why are you on a forum? What an odd human being you are...

first of all dude, chill... dont get excited because some1 disagreed with u... i dint go about saying "oh what an idiot that he wants torres to stay and sturridge gone" and all that shit. so keep your sarcasm to urself. just thought i d have a civilized debate/discussion because i found 2 things confusing in your post but as u have already decided that i m "odd human being", i wont bother your highness.

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Yes, actually I would. People are vastly overrating Sturridge out of the desperation to find an alternative to Torres. Sturridge is not really better IMO. I'm pretty tired of Torres too but I like that his link up play is good and he allows us to at least play reasonably well in terms of creativity and movement. More so than Sturridge who I think just does not have a future here.

Add in other factors like Torres' wages and Sturridge's contract situation and its clear which one needs to go first.

Well Torres is the most likely reason why Sturridge has yet to sign a new contract. He knows he's just as good, if not better than Torres atm...but what can you do, we're sacrificing a talented young striker who isn't afraid to shoot in order to keep the hopeless Torres as our main striker.

It's clear that Torres should be the one to go first..but considering no club would be stupid enough to pay him 175,000 a week...the chances of Torres leaving in January are very low.

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Yes, actually I would. People are vastly overrating Sturridge out of the desperation to find an alternative to Torres. Sturridge is not really better IMO. I'm pretty tired of Torres too but I like that his link up play is good and he allows us to at least play reasonably well in terms of creativity and movement. More so than Sturridge who I think just does not have a future here.

Add in other factors like Torres' wages and Sturridge's contract situation and its clear which one needs to go first.

Both are poor excuses for strikers right now. Sturridge is really overrated because hes young and English I think and well Torres is just awful. Sturridge has potential but not potential like Oscar, Hazard, Moses etc. He will be a decent player not a world beater, hes so predictable too. If he wants to be a good player hes gonna have to start using his right foot... If Dannys so good why didn't Robbie not use him last season? Oh wait hes not that good obviously! And yes I said Moses has better potential than Sturridge because I believe he does. Sturridge lacks a footballers brain, doesn't track back, doesn't pass to others in better positions where as Moses excels tactically and will pass to others in good positions and is one hell of a player in the making.

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Well Torres is the most likely reason why Sturridge has yet to sign a new contract. He knows he's just as good, if not better than Torres atm...but what can you do, we're sacrificing a talented young striker who isn't afraid to shoot in order to keep the hopeless Torres as our main striker.

It's clear that Torres should be the one to go first..but considering no club would be stupid enough to pay him 175,000 a week...the chances of Torres leaving in January are very low.

the point is if we actually want to sell torres i really dont think therre will be shortage of buyers. i still remember the hype everywhere when torres scored that goal against newcastle. u would think that it was the first time some1 had scored such an awesome goal. so players like torres never get short of suitors IN MY OPINION. maybe pool themselves would buy him back (in their desperation). moreover selling sturridge would be stupid. he deserves a fair chance with mazacar behind him i can feel that he can create havoc. and u r probably right about the reason y danny is not signin a contract.
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Both are poor excuses for strikers right now. Sturridge is really overrated because hes young and English I think and well Torres is just awful. Sturridge has potential but not potential like Oscar, Hazard, Moses etc. He will be a decent player not a world beater, hes so predictable too. If he wants to be a good player hes gonna have to start using his right foot...

Moses won't be a 'world-beater'. He's a talented player like Sturridge..but it doesn't look like he'll be on the same level as Hazard, Oscar.

The good thing about Moses is that he's a big upgrade on Kalou.

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Most of you are unfair towards Nando. I agree his first year in the Bridge was dismal, but from April till now I actually believe he has done okay. It appears he is always the one who gets stick from our fans and the media when the entire team plays poorly. Sigh.. I guess that will never change.

Ontopic: I can definitely see Malouda go and if someone new comes along it will be some striker, but it won't be anyone from the likes of Falcao.

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Moses won't be a 'world-beater'. He's a talented player like Sturridge..but it doesn't look like he'll be on the same level as Hazard, Oscar.

The good thing about Moses is that he's a big upgrade on Kalou.

You're underrating Moses. He has everything: talent, good attitude, ambition, pace, strength, footballing intelligence, tactical knowledge, ability scores goals and create them. Why can't he be a world beater with all that? Hes much further on in his development than Sturridge is right now. Marin is the Kalou replacement imo. Moses will be a first team player in a season or two time. Maybe he won't be on Hazard or Oscars level but he will be miles ahead of Sturridge. I have big hopes for him as does Robbie, hence why he talked so highly of him when he signed.

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