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6 hours ago, manpe said:

He is definitely one of many examples he could bring. Our own Josh McEachran is another, thought he was a made man too soon.

Josh was hyped up, but i can't remember seeing photos of him in nightclubs, fancy cars and so on. He always looked like the boy next door, imo.

Memphis on the other hand is definitely enjoying it too much:
his extravagant outfits have to do the talking for him, partying in Rotterdam -models everywhere, and you know that there must be something seriously wrong
when you can't decide whether to take the Rolls or the Hummer for your ride. Expensive and flashy, that's the main things.
It looks like that he doesn't give a fuck, proper 22 year old mercenary, Van Gaal can't control him, maybe Jose can, we'll see.

5 hours ago, manpe said:

 Television clowns are more important than, say, scientists, architects, engineers, doctors, teachers, soldiers, police officers, firefighters, regular do-gooders who make the world a better place day-by-day etc.


Not every footballer is on the big bucks, only the specialists, they do what most people simply can't.

If you're world class in your field, unique, and know how the game works, you'll most likely end up on the bright side of life (if you want money).
A friend of the family is a heart surgeon, yes, education took a long time, had to put in the hard work for quite some years,
but around 40 a hospital from the United Arab Emirates made him a huge offer..
health is the most important thing in this life and rich people pay, a few years and he can live like a king, where ever he goes with his family.
A doctor can work at least till his 60ties, so you can imagine the paydays.

Engineers, Silicon Valley,  nuff said.

A friend of my sister played in the Bundesliga, but only short-term, a knee injury prevented him from taking his fair share out of the honey pots.
So if you wanna play professional footie, fair play to you, but the risk is there, health has and always will be more important than money,
if you're not good enough for the first or second division in the top 5 leagues, shit hits the fan, friends start working as engineers, doctors, what do you have?!

Becoming a teacher at school is easier (no disrespect meant), but he can spend more time than those 'high potentials' with his family
Grandpa would do it, if he was offered the chance again, but life doesn't stop for anybody.

Appreciate what you have, it ain't that bad, let the others do what they want. (yes, typical on Insta, sorry :P).

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I'd love to see him again in Chelsea. A great man and footballer. Should've never been sold, but mou's things... He was one of the not many good things that AVB made for the club :D
But I don't think there is a big chance of coming back here, maybe he will go in Spain and I'm sure the team which buy him won't make a mistake.

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9 hours ago, Blue_Fox_ said:

I always thought he slows the game down too much, and needs the whole team to be built around him

Not sure why this absolute nonsense keeps being spouted. Just because Mata was out best player for the first two years he was here does not mean the team was 'built around him'. Since when does being the best player in a team mean that?! If a team was truly 'built around him', someone like, oh I don't know, Nemanja Matic would've played behind him to make up for his defensive deficiencies, but we never got to see such a team...instead we got a running donkey called Oscar. 

Anyway, we managed to finish 3rd with a (bad) team 'built around Mata', supposedly. I wonder how many Chelsea fans would take that now...

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Hands down the most overrated player we've had. In hindsight, Hazard & Torres both made him look a lot better than he was. He has zero influence on games.

 

He thrived as a 2nd striker where he did next to no defensive work. Has been exposed ever since.

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10 hours ago, Blue_Fox_ said:

I always thought he slows the game down too much, and needs the whole team to be built around him. I wouldn't take him back, we need something different.
Having said that, he's still a top footballer and on top of that, he seems like genuine good person, smart and well mannered, which is always nice to see, there should be more like him.
Hope wherever he goes he can find success.

Nah, he's not a top footballer anymore. There's a reason he lost his place to Lingard & can no longer get into the Spanish squad. He just had a fluke season like Ramsey did a couple of years ago.

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16 minutes ago, Gilvorak said:

Nah, he's not a top footballer anymore. There's a reason he lost his place to Lingard & can no longer get into the Spanish squad. He just had a fluke season like Ramsey did a couple of years ago.

Bullshit, Gil. He's not world class anymore like he was when he was here but he's several levels better than Aaron Ramsey.

Only thing that holds him back is his lack of versatility. When he isn't played in a very specific position his effectiveness drops dramatically. I 100% believe that if he goes to a club and plays strictly behind a prolific striker he'd put up silly numbers.

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4 hours ago, The Mak said:

Not sure why this absolute nonsense keeps being spouted. Just because Mata was out best player for the first two years he was here does not mean the team was 'built around him'. Since when does being the best player in a team mean that?! If a team was truly 'built around him', someone like, oh I don't know, Nemanja Matic would've played behind him to make up for his defensive deficiencies, but we never got to see such a team...instead we got a running donkey called Oscar. 

Anyway, we managed to finish 3rd with a (bad) team 'built around Mata', supposedly. I wonder how many Chelsea fans would take that now...

I can't seem to find the sentence in which I wrote, nor implied "Our team back in 2012 was built around him." I just can't.
Anyway, Mata, to be effective to his fullest, is a player that needs a team built around him, again, at his fullest.

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On 5/24/2016 at 1:56 AM, Blue_Fox_ said:

I can't seem to find the sentence in which I wrote, nor implied "Our team back in 2012 was built around him." I just can't.
Anyway, Mata, to be effective to his fullest, is a player that needs a team built around him, again, at his fullest.

 

Well then how do you know he needs a team built around him then?!?!

You're either implying our team catered to his needs or you have a crystal ball.

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3 hours ago, The Mak said:

Well then how do you know he needs a team built around him then?!?!

You're either implying our team catered to his needs or you have a crystal ball.

No real need for a crystal ball :P Same as you know that with Matic behind him he could have been much more effective. Even though they never played together.
Anyway, I never wrote that our team back in 2012 was built around him, so I've no idea what's with you and my original post, a post mostly intended to wish him good luck.

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