Mouri_Matic 560 Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 I would be surprised if he is meaning Mata as a winger cause that is wrong. I really think Mourinho will move Oscar to the double pivot and thus Mata can play in the advance role. Sorry mate but we will all be dead before that happens. No seriously maybe in 6-7 years haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouri_Matic 560 Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 If Hazard has received numerous chances to prove himself (which he deserves ofc) then why doesn't Mata get any? Also who says Mata can't improve his work rate? Robben improved his under Heynckes.The thing is Hazard is the one of the best in his positon atm, Schurrle/Kevin haven't played much better than him yet. While Oscar is on fire so Jose got no reason to drop him, meaning Mata has to sit out. Don't shoot me but I see this is very similar to the Casillas situation at Madrid. Injury, out of the team, Lopez too good and never came back in. Same could be happening to Mata now if he doesn't impress Jose soon. It will eventually get to the point that one or another will have to leave and as long as we continue to win, that man will be Mata unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NishC300 1,865 Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 The thing is Hazard is the one of the best in his positon atm, Schurrle/Kevin haven't played much better than him yet. While Oscar is on fire so Jose got no reason to drop him, meaning Mata has to sit out. Don't shoot me but I see this is very similar to the Casillas situation at Madrid. Injury, out of the team, Lopez too good and never came back in. Same could be happening to Mata now if he doesn't impress Jose soon. It will eventually get to the point that one or another will have to leave and as long as we continue to win, that man will be Mata unfortunately.Mata can still play out wide. He's our most intelligent and classy player IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouri_Matic 560 Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Mata can still play out wide. He's our most intelligent and classy player IMO.Yep but to be fair our system last 2 seasons have been built to suit him though. I am sure if Hazard was to play CAM and Mata swapped place with him on the wing, Hazard would probably still got similar number of goals/assists while Mata would be reduced significantly. I think Jose want Mata to play RW like he first said but Mata is not capable to play there atm because he hasn't played on the wing for a long time. I hope he proves Jose wrong and impresses on Wed or he will be benched next week against Spurs.Btw we never really gave Oscar a chance. Last season Oscar was just as good as Mata in 11/12 imo and it was his first season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesman2610 1,417 Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Love Juan he needs to play more and I hope he does prove Jose wrong I really wanna see the trio back together I feel that was when we were at our most fluid plus his service from corners are brilliant.. His composure in the final third for that pass or shot is also best bar none in our league I feel.. I trust Jose but i feel he is getting this one wrong not saying he needs to play over Oscar but does need to be on the pitch.. they both do.. Hopefully we can see it sooner rather than never Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambo 1,729 Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Should've sold him to PSG when we had the chance, now his value will drop immensely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korea 734 Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Should've sold him to PSG when we had the chance, now his value will drop immensely. I'll take a direct swap for Cavani or Lucas! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 It's so ironic, we have been pining for squad depth and competition for places ever since we stripped our squad after the double, and now we have it we are moaning.I love Mata but he should should not be exempt from having to fight for his place because he is a nice guy, if you want a team full of triffic lads follow Harry Redknapp and support whoever he is managing. Every player in this squad (even Cech now could have some bench time if he has a wobble) is fighting for their place in the team and Mata is no exception. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustafa 885 Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Mata is still Chelsea FC's best player... Simple :blue scalf: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Term-X 7,891 Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 ^ And this is coming from the guy with Bosingwa in both his avatar & sig... xPetrCechx, edenhazard17 and Barbara 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Cant stand fans who say that Mata should be benched or sold and shit. go fuck yourselves he was our best player for two years and deserves bit more than that. Great suport you give yeah :/---Sorry for this rage but what is wrong is wrong. Azpinator, Kunter and The_Flash 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Flash 1,144 Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Cant stand fans who say that Mata should be benched or sold and shit. go fuck yourselves he was our best player for two years and deserves bit more than that. Great suport you give yeah :/---Sorry for this rage but what is wrong is wrong.I agree. He has been fantastic it seems so random that almost instantly he has been shunned by Jose. I think Oscar is very good too and If possible would love them both to be on. Felt very sad seeing David and Mata not even on the bench Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 We have 6 places in attacking midfield, 3 will start, 2 will be on the bench and 1 will miss out completely. I really don't understand the knee jerk reaction's him missing out Saturday. It was Schurrle against Basle, Willian against Everton, KDB against Bayern and at Swindon it will probably be Hazard (maybe Oscar too with someone like Boga filling the bench place), against Spurs i will guess KDB.Ricardo Carvalho and Eidur Gudjohnsen were key players in Jose's last reign but were occasionally left out of matchday squad's. When we had the 4 wingers in Duff,Cole, Robben and SWP one had to miss out altogether each time, just be happy we have a strong enough squad to do that. We cry when our squad's weak, and we cry when it's strong, the club can't win. The only place to be and Barbara 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea? 892 Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 We have 6 places in attacking midfield, 3 will start, 2 will be on the bench and 1 will miss out completely. I really don't understand the knee jerk reaction's him missing out Saturday. It was Schurrle against Basle, Willian against Everton, KDB against Bayern and at Swindon it will probably be Hazard (maybe Oscar too with someone like Boga filling the bench place), against Spurs i will guess KDB.Ricardo Carvalho and Eidur Gudjohnsen were key players in Jose's last reign but were occasionally left out of matchday squad's. When we had the 4 wingers in Duff,Cole, Robben and SWP one had to miss out altogether each time, just be happy we have a strong enough squad to do that. We cry when our squad's weak, and we cry when it's strong, the club can't win.u must have some heavy shades on if u don't think there's tension between mata and jose.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,439 Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 u must have some heavy shades on if u don't think there's tension between mata and jose.. And you must like to see everything as a soap opera Barbara 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Cant stand fans who say that Mata should be benched or sold and shit. go fuck yourselves he was our best player for two years and deserves bit more than that. Great suport you give yeah :/---Sorry for this rage but what is wrong is wrong.chill dude. he ll be back. jose has said EXACTLY what he wants from mata. that is better workrate and better defensive display. he has not minced any words in doing so. it is upto mata now to change himself a little. become more of a complete player. chase after balls when we lose it and get it back and things like the man city goal, where he simply let yaya toure run free into our box, should not happen.jose is making a more complete team and wants mata to become a more complete player so that his defensive liabilities dont cut off his attacking brilliance. close your eyes, TRUST IN JOSE and let things be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Cant stand fans who say that Mata should be benched or sold and shit. go fuck yourselves he was our best player for two years and deserves bit more than that. Great suport you give yeah :/---Sorry for this rage but what is wrong is wrong.He deserves what he shows on the pitch. NOBODY should get preferential treatment based on what they did in the past. That is not how a club should run. Mouri_Matic, edetarod and The only place to be 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambo 1,729 Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Cant stand fans who say that Mata should be benched or sold and shit. go fuck yourselves he was our best player for two years and deserves bit more than that. Great suport you give yeah :/---Sorry for this rage but what is wrong is wrong.Mata isn't part of Jose's plans, you've got to learn to accept that. Mata is a better player than Oscar at the moment but he'll never be the #10 Jose wants him to be. He's not built for defensive work and he'll never be as fast as Oscar when moving with the ball. Nobody here wants him gone but I honestly don't see him as part of our team past next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Mata isn't part of Jose's plans, you've got to learn to accept that. Mata is a better player than Oscar at the moment but he'll never be the #10 Jose wants him to be. He's not built for defensive work and he'll never be as fast as Oscar when moving with the ball. Nobody here wants him gone but I honestly don't see him as part of our team past next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 If Jose didn´t think Mata is part of his plans, then why didn´t he sell him & bought somebody else ?Is this the way to deal with players ?Let him sit around, then tell him to play a different, adapt or I will bench you. To me, to deal with players this way & Mata is no ordinary player, is arrogant. xPetrCechx 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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