🇪🇸 Juan Mata

[Toli 977]

if he's sold it would be the most stupid of all things stupid we've done lately.. almost as disastrous as buying Torres or as evil as sacking Ancelotti ... its not like we're crowded with talent at the #10 position, its just him and Oscar ffs (I know wizard can play there, but they are mainly inverted wingers) .. be patient Jose, please just be patient

we cant keep both players competeting for 1 place. its either oscar or mata. mata is not a player who is playing second fiddle. and mourinho does not give him the chance to prove himself on his position, so there is no need to talk about keeping both. they arent even competing for the same place. Mata will be gone by the summer, unless something unexpected happens. If Mou does not favor a player, its nearly impossible to get back.

[Las7 951]

Rooney's best was when he was playing as the out and out striker and not when he is paying in the hole. Remember last season when he was forced to play in behind v.Pussie and wasn't exactly effective as when he was playing as the striker.

And he is the sort of player that puts in a lot of effort and his workrate is laudable. I don't care if he is 500 pounds and eating pies or smoking pot or doing drugs or fucking Spanish hookers, if he can put in the sort of workrate that he is displaying at United, I'd take him anyday.

P.s It's not like I am some sort of Rooney fan boy or anything but he is,in many eyes, one of the best players in the past decade and still going strong.

Do you know what United won when Rooney was playing as the out and out striker - I will tell you they won fuck all

Last season Rooney fell out with SAF hence he was benched; the rest of the time he was injured.

You watch United's best season it was always Rooney who was sacrificed playing on the wing; playing in the hole etc As soon as SAF had a chance to sign RvP he jumped at the chance. Because Rooney's best attributes are his vision and passing no doubt about it.

[AndersonBLUE 819]

Mata for Rooney is just plain stupid. Mata would strengthen utd more than Rooney would us.

[Sheva. 5,373]

Tbf Mourinho has "won" this little problem with Mata. If Roman was (hypothetically) skeptical about selling Mata before, but now sees Mourinho's preferred team keep winning, surely he would think differently?

I like Juan as much as the next guy, but it's hard to see him playing at a top level here again and that's a shame. So it will be good for the player if he's sold, and for Chelsea to get a player Mourinho will actually play, and help our cause in the league and CL.

(ideally though, we sell to another club and not Man utd)

[Pizy 18,909]

Mata for Rooney is just plain stupid. Mata would strengthen utd more than Rooney would us.

I don't know about that, mate.

If Rooney plays like he has so far this season for us I think we'd win the title. Especially if he's played in his preferred position. He'll want to prove his doubters and detractors wrong and repay the faith Mourinho has in him.

I think he'd be a beast for us. The only way this move happens, I hope.

[coolhead23 1,147]

Mata for Rooney is just plain stupid. Mata would strengthen utd more than Rooney would us.

Same was said abt RVP last year ... Look what happened! United basically bought the title for 24m ....

Rooney is a player that Mourinho likes and want ... Im sure he would get the best out of him.

[ephreak 42]

#MUFC remain resolute that Wayne Rooney will not be sold to #CFC as part of any prospective deal for Juan Mata (Guardian)

EDIT: As I said before, ignore all bids from that club. Even if they want to buy our old water bottles. Just ignore it.

[Jase 43,479]

[nadavTKL 1,787]

Tbf Mourinho has "won" this little problem with Mata. If Roman was (hypothetically) skeptical about selling Mata before, but now sees Mourinho's preferred team keep winning, surely he would think differently?

I like Juan as much as the next guy, but it's hard to see him playing at a top level here again and that's a shame. So it will be good for the player if he's sold, and for Chelsea to get a player Mourinho will actually play, and help our cause in the league and CL.

(ideally though, we sell to another club and not Man utd)

Who can we buy now?

[mediator 2,026]

#MUFC remain resolute that Wayne Rooney will not be sold to #CFC as part of any prospective deal for Juan Mata (Guardian)

EDIT: As I said before, ignore all bids from that club. Even if they want to buy our old water bottles. Just ignore it.

The article

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/jan/21/wayne-rooney-sale-juan-mata-chelsea-manchester-united

[Las7 951]

Why would you post something so ugly in a Chelsea forum - this image is an abomination

[Jase 43,479]

Why would you post something so ugly in a Chelsea forum - this image is an abomination

Wanted to put up something different.

[The only place to be 11,313]

Same here, really. I would be tempted if PSG are offering the reported 37m, but the fact that it is united is another point against accepting this.

The other way of looking at this is to string United along for a couple of weeks, then say no. Let their fans get excited before it being another Fabregas deal, or simply let them put all their eggs in one basket.

Ideally we'd be looking at a bidding war developing and a right-winger becoming available though. It's just a shame that players like Reus or Draxler are primarily left-sided.

[Pizy 18,909]

Hilarious that they actually think they can refuse to sell us their best player but think we'll agree to sell them ours.

Fucking clowns. Midtable clubs don't dictate the terms. We have all the power in this situation, you cunts!

[The Skipper 20,609]

This thread has become hilarious, must be said.

[petre.ispirescu 4,928]

He ain't going anywhere in this transfer market just because the season is long and we're in need of some back-up attacking midfielders now that De Bruyne is gone. I can't predict the future though, but I really think he'll go somewhere else in the summer. He won't get a starting spot ahead of Oscar and Willian, that I can guarantee you, but at the same time he ain't no bench player. He has to go and he will, but I feel that now it's not the time, when we're challenging for the title and FA Cup and we're through to the next phase in UCL. An injury to Oscar or Willian, God forbid, would be a big blow and we need decent replacements such as Mata and Schurrle (at least now when we're in the title race)

But the funniest thing here is that, even when Chelsea is playing maybe the best football in a couple of years, some of you would sacrifice Oscar or Willian just to see their favourite player in. I do love Mata too, I'm a big fan and I enjoy watching him in action, but if something it's not broken, why fix it? Team's doing just well, we're in the title race, we're getting better and better by every day and all this w/o Mata on the pitch. He is a part of our recent history and I'm pointing to that Champions League campaing two seasons ago, but some of you must understand he didn't win that trophy by himself. The entire team won that trophy, with him being part of that beautiful story. But there's life after Mata too and we just have to watch how we're doing in this season to realize this.

Jose is not a fool - he sold KDB and bought Matic, he'll sell Mata and buy a replacement, he'll get rid of Torres and Demba Ba and will bring a world-class striker. That's how it works at Chelsea. Roman is in no need of money and be sure those 37 mil quid will go somewhere else for other player. Some months ago I would have thought if someone will ofer 20-25 mil for him would be a good deal, but now, 37, oh boy, that's the real deal and allows us to go out there and bid for a world-class striker.

[11Drogba 2,000]

Sell Mata, buy Draxler.

[TacticalBlues 2,817]

All senimants aside Mata is too good to be a benchwarmer. We have to show Mata the respect he deserves and if Mourinho is indeed planning to displace him for the long term, some sense emanates in selling. Nonetheless, nobody can convice me that selling Mata to Man United in January is good for the club, even at "37 million pounds".

Mata may not bring United a title, but like Chelsea two years ago, he has everything to reinvigorate and strenghten their team enormousley. Selling in January aswell, when we need strength to compete with City is also questionable for a club that are quitely challenging for the title, despite rebuffs from Mourinho to the contrary. An injury/suspension to any of our three currently preffered players can also be instantly mitigated with Mata providing equal qualities (and maybe more as a number 10 offensivley than the three currently).

That said it's world cup year and I feel for Mata deeply. Mourinho is the main man and it is he who ultimatley makes the decisions. I honestly do think that our wingers tracking back, Matic and Ramires in midfield and our defensive partnership combine to make a potent enough defensive unit for Mata to be given some freedom to attack with a reduced burden on him defensivley. IMO that is a viable option for a lot of games, although Mata can easily demand a greater role in most other clubs, I do still feel Mourinho will give Mata chances in the second half of the season in steaking a claim for his spot. Moreover, the handful of games Mata's had to prove himself on the pitch IMHO doesn't suffice adequate scrutiny in determining categorically that we can let our best player for the last two seasons, the top assist maker in the EPL last year and quite simply a worldclass player like Mata to leave our club.

Maybe it is sentimant speaking now but as much sense as some some arguments make it just doesn't feel right to let the humble and classy 25 year old Mata leave with his peak approaching (especially to United) and undoutebly provide a club with the world class qualities he's cultivated over the years at Chelsea.

[Jype 6,398]

All things considering a £37m bid from a club outside England would probably be enough to tempt me but United can go fuck themselves. If they're not willing to sell us one of their best because they're afraid he might strengthen our title challenge then why would we let them have a player who has the potential to be one of the best playmakers in the league when properly utilised?

Wouldn't be surprised if Mourinho wanted to sell though, it would only further boost his ego if he could say he sold one of the finest players in the league to a rival and still won the title.

[Pizy 18,909]

All things considering a £375m bid from a club outside England would probably be enough to tempt me but United can go fuck themselves. If they're not willing to sell us one of their best because they're afraid he might strengthen our title challenge then why would we let them have a player who has the potential to be one of the best playmakers in the league when properly utilised?

Wouldn't be surprised if Mourinho wanted to sell though, it would only further boost his ego if he could say he sold one of the finest players in the league to a rival and still won the title.

Shit, man, for £375m they can have Mikel too.