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MrBlueGuy

Next Manager?

Started by MrBlueGuy,

Who should be Chelsea's next permanent manager?   272 members have voted

  1. 1. Who should be Chelsea's next permanent manager?

    • Carlo Ancelotti
    • Guus Hiddink
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    • Maurizio Sarri
    • Diego Simeone
    • Max Allegri
    • Brendan Rodgers
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    • Other
    • Luis Enrique
    • Thomas Tuchel

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12 hours ago, Sideshow Luiz said:

I feel the same as I did 2 seasons ago.  I'm actually okay with no CL football.  Well, of course I wish we were in it, but I'm not devastated.  The Mourinho DNA in this team brought us a lot of trophies, but it's also the reason why we revert back to type when our backs are agains the wall.  Pragmatic football.  I'm okay with missing out on trophies for the next little bit (will probably happen anyway considering that we don't spend in the market right now), so now's really the time to bring in someone who wants to play attacking football.  I've really got my eggs in the Sarri basket.  

You see, 2 seasons ago it was a blip...and we had the players that can do way better than finish 10th...in fact if we don't count the Mourinho games that season, we would have finished 4th.

This time is completely different though, and we ALL have to seriously worry for the future of the club.

Unlike 2 seasons ago, while we were terrible we had class players in most areas of the pitch.

As much as I was pissed at Costa, he was one of our brilliant starmen.

Now? We got useless Morata. I'll start with him first because I have another rant about him.

Morata's actually one of the key failures in our club people don't seem to understand. Like Torres. Morata is suppose to be our 20+ goals striker. A striker that would unlock the opposition defense. Giroud has done a lot better than Morata, and that is scary considering Giroud isn't that good. We lack firepower, which is why we are 5th. Morata screams mediocrity. He's better than Torres, but the reason why I think of Torres I think of Morata is because of 2 things:

1) Both number 9s
2) They are both flops

Morata has been more of a flop than being awesome in his whole career, and he's now 25. You cannot play that young excuse anymore. What we saw all season, THAT IS THE REAL MORATA. He won't get any (significantly) better. Yesterday summed it up for him.

Then our wingbacks. Alonso and Moses. Limited, slow. Moses most of the time, his crosses won't beat first man. I don't care if Alonso scores fancy free-kicks, do your fecking job as a wingback that's what we bought you for.

Courtois. WTF has happened to this guy? His worst season yet. I've never seen him let in silly goals so much. He's far down from being the best goalkeeper in Europe now. Lloris is just as equal as Courtois and we were laughing at Lloris.

Hazard. I don't care what anybody says. He had a shocker of a season. There were a lot of games this season that he was invisible/off. I still want Hazard next season because he has shown time and time again, when on form he's unstoppable - but his flirting with Madrid is asking me questions to think he is doing on purpose.

Our next manager has a lot of work to do...

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On 5/10/2018 at 0:03 PM, Mana said:

You see, 2 seasons ago it was a blip...and we had the players that can do way better than finish 10th...in fact if we don't count the Mourinho games that season, we would have finished 4th.

This time is completely different though, and we ALL have to seriously worry for the future of the club.

Unlike 2 seasons ago, while we were terrible we had class players in most areas of the pitch.

That was hardly true.

Our back four was Ivan-JT-Cahill-Azpi (two past it and one only effective with protection) with Baba Rahman as backup. This defense is miles better. In midfield back then we had no one that was good enough, now we have Kante and players that aren't good enough so it's not ideal but it's still better to have one quality midfielder than none. Squad depth we are light years ahead of that season as well (our bench players in defense are far better than the 2016 versions of JT and Ivan).

The only position where we had better options in that year compared to this is striker, every other position is equal or better. We were in much bigger trouble that summer and while we would have eventually recovered, the only reason we did so quickly is because Conte found a way to hide all the players weaknesses while utilizing their strengths.

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Napoli's front-three scored almost half as many goals as they managed last season. 

 

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On 5/10/2018 at 4:03 AM, Mana said:

You see, 2 seasons ago it was a blip...and we had the players that can do way better than finish 10th...in fact if we don't count the Mourinho games that season, we would have finished 4th.

 

This is wrong. Mourinho was sacked on December17th, here is what the top 10 would look like from the 22 games played after Mourinho's sacking.

1.Leicester City 13-7-2=46 pts

2. Tottenham 13-5-4=44 pts

3. Southampton 13-3-6=42pts

4.Arsenal 10-8-4=38pts

5. West Ham10-8-4=38pts

6.Man United 11-4-7=37pts

7.Liverpool 10-6-6=36pts

8.Chelsea 8-11-4=35pts

9.Man City 9-7-6=34pts

10.Swansea 9-6-7=33 pts

It seems as if there are quite a few people on this forum who believe that when Mourinho was sacked we started playing well.Chelsea were  justshit that season. Not just when Mourinho was here, but well after. There is no way around it.

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58 minutes ago, Panic said:

This is wrong. Mourinho was sacked on December17th, here is what the top 10 would look like from the 22 games played after Mourinho's sacking.

1.Leicster City 13-7-2=46 pts

2. Tottenham 13-5-4=44 pts

3. Southampton 13-3-6=42pts

4.Arsenal 10-8-4=38pts

5. West Ham10-8-4=38pts

6.Man United 11-4-7=37pts

7.Liverpool 10-6-6=36pts

8.Chelsea 8-11-4=35pts

9.Man City 9-7-6=34pts

10.Swansea 9-6-7=33 pts

It seems as if there are quite a few people on this forum who believe that when Mourinho was sacked we started playing well.Chelsea were  justshit that season. Not just when Mourinho was here, but well after. There is no way around it.

We may not have been great under Hiddink, but we were 100 times better than beforehand under Mou. Furthermore we were actually 2nd in that particular table until about April when we headed to the Beach.

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2 hours ago, Tomo said:

We may not have been great under Hiddink, but we were 100 times better than beforehand under Mou. Furthermore we were actually 2nd in that particular table until about April when we headed to the Beach.

To be fair, it's not hard to play better when you're playing relegation level football.

I'm pretty sure both Tottenham and Leicester were both ahead of us during that period. In addition, counting points from Mourinho's sacking until April is arbitrary. If you evaluate Chelsea over any meaningful period of that season, you would conclude that we were shit.

Here is the table from December 14th Until April. Chelsea played 14 games during that period so I only counted the point total that other clubs had over 14 games, even though some played 15 games and most of them won the fixture I excluded.

1.Tottenham 31 pts

2. Leicester 28 pts

3. Chelsea 26 pts gd 11

4. West Ham 26 pts gd 8

5. Southampton 23 pts

6. Arsenal 22 pts

7. Liverpool 21 pts

8. Man United 21 pts

9. Stoke 20 pts

10. Man City 19 pts

This is the table from your arbitrary period. While better than where we finished, we're not far off of mid table football(not too far off first either). Only goal difference separated us from West Ham, and only 5 points ahead of 7th. This is not good football. If you consider how most of our rivals were having shit seasons too, you get a much different picture than what you would suggest. The average point total for the 4th place team in the last 10 seasons is ~72 points. If you take our point average from the 14 games and calculate how many would have gained from 38 games we would be at ~71 points. Personally, I don't believe this type of extrapolation is valid, but even if you do extrapolate, you still can not even say Chelsea played at a top 4 level. There is no way around it. Chelsea were shit if you try and evaluate them in any meaningful/useful way.

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I understand the fans wanting Jody Morris, but he isn't ready. I know he is cleaning house with the academy, but thats a totally different ball game.  Needs to learn the trade lower down first, just the way it is.

 

Next manager will be Enrique or Sarri IMO.  Almost nailed on one of those 2.  Rui Faria would be a shock, but when i read the report and seen 'according to Don Balon...' i knew it was BS

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9 hours ago, the wes said:

Surely that has to be a joke. Not saying Faria won't make it as a manager because I think hes clearly an astute guy and has good footballing experience as an assistant but he worked with AVB years ago, would have seen the club chew him up and spit him out 9 months into a 3 year deal, there is not a chance hes coming here as a manager looking for his first job. 

Dont understand the Jody Morris in for the FA Cup final shit either. Conte is going anyway I'd be surprised if he probably hasnt already offered to resign or knows his fate, so why sack him when he has one more game to play, a cup final in which he guided the team to? 

 

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If Roman continues with his 'Win the league or fuck off' policy we will get a continual managerial revolving door.

I hate to say it but we need a Klopp or Poch who are building a team bit by bit, Something they want to last and hopefully look ok doing it. Yes they fuck up and yes they rely alot on 1 player far too much but the idea is there.

Ive not got a Scooby who will be our manager next season but I just hope the whole club, board,manager,players,supporters have a better attitude,confidence,trust and faith than 2 of the last 3 seasons.

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🔔 According to @Carloalvino, Ancelotti joining Napoli is confirmed, and it's beyond contradiction. He'll sign a Two-Year contract with an option for another year. The Coach likes Napoli's current squad, and at most, two players will be sold this summer. (@CalcioNapoli24)

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6 minutes ago, iceboy said:

🔔 According to @Carloalvino, Ancelotti joining Napoli is confirmed, and it's beyond contradiction. He'll sign a Two-Year contract with an option for another year. The Coach likes Napoli's current squad, and at most, two players will be sold this summer. (@CalcioNapoli24)

So Sarri + Jorginho + another Napoli player to Chelsea? :)

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Hardly makes any difference, as the new coach's second season will be an utter disaster yet again.
Arsenal is a far better option for Sarri...just sayin'

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48 minutes ago, !Hazard! said:

So Sarri + Jorginho + another Napoli player to Chelsea? :)

We're not getting Jorginho.  I can't see us being that pro-active.  I think they are going to sell Jorginho and Koulibaly this summer.  They already have replacements for both.

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4 minutes ago, Sideshow Luiz said:

We're not getting Jorginho.  I can't see us being that pro-active.  I think they are going to sell Jorginho and Koulibaly this summer.  They already have replacements for both.

It is not so much about us being pro-active as these are Sarri-players. They have expressed their love of playing for him, and he has made them integral and valuable players. If(big if) we do hire Sarri as our manager id expect Jorginho & Koulibaly, at the very least Jorginho. Sarri would insist on it and I think Napoli believe Jorginho won't be the same player under someone else. They will collect large sums for either player, and we might be happy to pay for both. 

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Imagine leaving Napoli for Chelsea...And I'm talking about both manager and players. The fucking mess we are in, the wankers behind the scenes and the constant upheaval.

 

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