The English Football Thread

[The_Flash 1,144]

Cardiff had a lot of position. The commentator Sao something about Wong surprised people were really heralding RVP's return than Mata's debut. Why would they sing Mata's name already instead of the man who makes the difference to Utd. He was the difference, I think they wouldn't have won the title without him last year.

[Gilvorak 3,734]

We should take a punt on Mirallas. He's quality.

[Jase 43,479]

We should take a punt on Mirallas. He's quality.

Think we have enough AMs for now...

[Special Juan 27,420]

Arsenal Now over to us.

[bushman 2,043]

Arsenal Now over to us.

The cheapest skunks of PL were lucky last night. Even the ref missed a hand ball at the end.

Finally, the goons are sliding, I hope.

[Special Juan 27,420]

Well done Liverpool yesterday on their cup final win, now the season is over they can finally rest up.

[bushman 2,043]

May I get a bit of help here ?

Since Flamini got straight red last night, is he banned for 3 or 4 games now ?

Today, I read both versions.

[Jype 6,398]

Manchester City report a loss of £52m for the 12/13 season. Add that to the £98m loss they had the year before and even after writing off any 'exceptional costs' they're still down over a £100m for FFP's first monitoring period which means they're pretty much fucked. Will be the first real opportunity for UEFA to show if they mean business with the FFP or if it's all just fancy talk.

[Pizy 18,367]

So City have released their revenue figures.

Scratching my head at how they could possibly have edged us in revenue. Chelsea is a MUCH bigger club with MUCH bigger global support.

PSG as well.

[bababoom 4,478]

May I get a bit of help here ?

Since Flamini got straight red last night, is he banned for 3 or 4 games now ?

Today, I read both versions.

Four.

[bushman 2,043]

So City have released their revenue figures.

Scratching my head at how they could possibly have edged us in revenue. Chelsea is a MUCH bigger club with MUCH bigger global support.

PSG as well.

Much better sponsorship ?

[bushman 2,043]

Four.

Thanks James. That´s what I like to read. Several injuries, him out for 4 games, the goons are sliding lower. I still think, they have been playing over their potential. To me, arsenal is too thin to win it all.

[Rmpr 8,977]

So City have released their revenue figures.

Scratching my head at how they could possibly have edged us in revenue. Chelsea is a MUCH bigger club with MUCH bigger global support.

PSG as well.

Because their owners use their own companies to overpay in sponsorship...

[communicate 2,703]

Liverpool games showed biggest problem for team like everton, they just don't have enough squad depth.

They lose Distin and Coleman and their back line looked really awful

[Jype 6,398]

Much better sponsorship ?

Well, they did sell the naming rights to their stadium and are getting around £40m extra a year for it.

Etihad money comes from Sheikh Mansour's brother and some of their other sponsorship deals are also funded by Abu Dhabi money belonging to either Mansour himself or his friends / family. Some could even describe all that as unfair because the source of the money is still pretty much the owner's pockets but it's only done that way to make their books look more flattering in hopes that UEFA believe it and cut them some slack with the FFP rules.

Also:

‏@RobHarris: "Man City made £47m selling "intellectual property" to "third parties" or "related parties". Without that would have lost more than 2011-12"

So, can someone tell me what exactly is this intellectual property they've sold to some mysterious Abu Dhabi investment group? City's coaching team goes to teach some local amateurs how to manage a football team and the club gets paid almost £50m for it?

[Pizy 18,367]

So in other words, they're selling things to themselves? Wtf!? lol

City are shady as hell. They don't give a toss about FFP and were one of, if not the only club to object to it. They had a ridiculously expensive squad last season and went and spent another 100m like it was nothing.

All due to these super shady sponsorship deals and loopholes.

Supporters of other clubs like United and Arse still make fun of us and say we aren't a truly big club, but like it or not we are. We're an absolutely massive, globally supported club. City aren't. Just have a fuck ton of cash.

[Rmpr 8,977]

So in other words, they're selling things to themselves? Wtf!? lol

Pretty much!!!

However, this is extremely common in the business world. When a company doesnt want to show that a certain department is doing THAT bad, they move money from another department so they can disguise the losses.

And about the FFP, no ones really cares about it. The difference is some clubs (Chelsea, Manure, Barcelona, etc) are in position to PRETEND to follow it, since it gives us political advantadge. Whereas clubs with low income like ManCity and PSG cant afford that luxury...

[BleedsBlue 1,549]

Manchester City report a loss of £52m for the 12/13 season. Add that to the £98m loss they had the year before and even after writing off any 'exceptional costs' they're still down over a £100m for FFP's first monitoring period which means they're pretty much fucked. Will be the first real opportunity for UEFA to show if they mean business with the FFP or if it's all just fancy talk.

maybe they'll sell us Aguero for 37m