The English Football Thread

[mediator 2,026]

So you'd rather see him leave for free? Not sure what the alternative was since the managers were never playing as striker. I'm not arguing Sturridge's credentials as a striker but the actual situation he and we were in and that you'd be an idiot to actually think he would have stayed if we didnt sell him.

Did i said that?

That was a poor management to let him rot on bench like that

If he was given a real chance, he would still be there and signed a contract extension

[Las7 951]

That's exactly our point, managers see Torres as a striker but he can't score and stick the only striker we had who could consistently score goals for us last season as not good enough to start as striker for us.

That's some serious logic, watch Torres play he doesn't even play as a striker manages 2 shots per match at most and is awful inside the box yet managers saw him as a striker?

No they saw him as the most expensive Roman signing a top payed player and their job was to try and make him score and 4 different managers failed to do that.

[Ankit 3,176]

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[CHOULO19 24,332]

Flashiness

Seems to be what most fans judge players by even though it accounts for absolutely nothing on the pitch.

So you'd rather see him leave for free? Not sure what the alternative was since the managers were never playing as striker. I'm not arguing Sturridge's credentials as a striker but the actual situation he and we were in and that you'd be an idiot to actually think he would have stayed if we didnt sell him.

The resentment from Chelsea fans about the sturridge situation was not the actual deal which was good business consider the circumstances but rather the fact that we did not give him a chance to be a player for us even though at the time our only other option was to play with 10 vs 12 a.k.a playing with Torres as our striker.

[Ankit 3,176]

No Snodgrass. Not even on bench. #fpltrauma

[Bir_CFC 3,455]

Did i said that?

That was a poor management to let him rot on bench like that

If he was given a real chance, he would still be there and signed a contract extension

Yeah of course he would have stayed if he was getting his chance at striker, that's all he wanted. But you can't criticize the BOARD, they did the best they could have done in that situation.

[Bir_CFC 3,455]

Seems to be what most fans judge players by even though it accounts for absolutely nothing on the pitch.

The resentment from Chelsea fans about the sturridge situation was not the actual deal which was good business consider the circumstances but rather the fact that we did not give him a chance to be a player for us even though at the time our only other option was to play with 10 vs 12 a.k.a playing with Torres as our striker.

So then complain about the managers, why would you criticize the board for selling him? They did the best they could have done in that scenario, that's my point. Complaining about why we sold him is stupid. You should instead complain RDM was the reason he left because he never gave him a chance.

[Bir_CFC 3,455]

That's exactly our point, managers see Torres as a striker but he can't score and stick the only striker we had who could consistently score goals for us last season as not good enough to start as striker for us.

That's some serious logic, watch Torres play he doesn't even play as a striker manages 2 shots per match at most and is awful inside the box yet managers saw him as a striker?

No they saw him as the most expensive Roman signing a top payed player and their job was to try and make him score and 4 different managers failed to do that.

I don't understand how you turn this into Torres vs. Sturridge, clearly not understanding my point AT ALL. We're talking about why he was sold, not how good he was.

[bushman 2,043]

wait until my 2013/14 kits arrive!

No better attire

but thanks

if I were you, I´d breath a bit deeper though.

[Ainsley Harriott 2,732]

Begovic deserves to be in a better team

[Bir_CFC 3,455]

Unreal performance by Begovic here.

[mediator 2,026]

Begovic is really a great keeper, why the hell did he move to stoke city? They are simply awful.

He is not their best asset, he is their only one

[Barbara 15,149]

No Snodgrass. Not even on bench. #fpltrauma

all my players are starting (except the Chelsea and ManCity ones as we don't have the line ups.)

[bushman 2,043]

So then complain about the managers, why would you criticize the board for selling him? They did the best they could have done in that scenario, that's my point. Complaining about why we sold him is stupid. You should instead complain RDM was the reason he left because he never gave him a chance.

Why criticize the manager when the board bought Torres & wanted him to be played ?

[Las7 951]

I don't understand how you turn this into Torres vs. Sturridge, clearly not understanding my point AT ALL. We're talking about why he was sold, not how good he was.

You don't understand, I'm telling there was pressure to get the best out of Torres hence he was played - you can't seriously tell me managers rated him higher as a striker.