The English Football Thread

[Muzchap 8,966]

@Rmpr @Leif - guys both of you are my favourite posters - please don't argue!

I'm off to Dubai for a week (work unfortunately) but hope when I return, we will have smashed the Swans so badly the Queen will be concerned!!! (She owns all swans in uk!)

We should also have dispatched the Cuckoo clock boys and be booking our tickets to Amsterdam

So c'mon we're all Chelsea here - lets not do a Millwall huh and fight ourselves

[Rmpr 8,977]

@Rmpr @Leif - guys both of you are my favourite posters - please don't argue!

As you have seen, my venom was very sharp today, I blame my terrible mood (it was on par with the day of the Hall of Fame breakdown)...

It has already stopped and not happening again, messaged the members I have offended (and wrongly so) today and I hope everything will be resolved!

Add alcohol, girl and a forum with a bad temper and you get me throwing stupid digs at undeserving members, sorry!

I'm off to Dubai for a week (work unfortunately) but hope when I return, we will have smashed the Swans so badly the Queen will be concerned!!! (She owns all swans in uk!)

We should also have dispatched the Cuckoo clock boys and be booking our tickets to Amsterdam

So c'mon we're all Chelsea here - lets not do a Millwall huh and fight ourselves

Yeah, I hope you return with Chelsea in 3rd and with UEL Final secured! :woo:

[Land 331]

Main differences between Coutinho and Oscar:

-Coutinho has forwards to feed

-Coutinho is naturally much faster

-Oscar is more of a midfielder while Coutinho is more of a forward

-Last but most importantly,Coutinho never plays out of position.

And as I said before,we can discuss this when Coutinho gives a brilliant performance vs someone like Juventus.Not Newcaslte,Villa etc, Im talking about CL and International level quality performances

[Reddish-Blue 2,503]

Well, at least someone is intelligent enough to make football points and explain them!

Coutinho is more prolific at dribbling and running past defenders because that is his style, a bit like Lucas Moura. Oscar, on the other hand, is more like a Pirlo or Modric (or even Lampard) type of player, they can all do fancy tricks, but it is just not part of their game. You will always see Coutinho making more headlines (if they were actually at the same level) than Oscar because that is just his thing.

Oscar did not have a very good season, like almost all our team, but this is his first ever season in a super different league. If the style of football in Brazilian to Italian Series A is already very apart, imagine Brazilian Serie A to EPL. He actually adapted very well, IMO. Remember he is the first real talented player to that direct transition in history...

I guess that Liverpool's current form and the love the media has for them make the minds of highly influenced kids (not that you are one, but you understand), but Oscar has been much better throughout all of his career and this shows in the NT. Have you never asked yourself why Coutinho doesnt even make the cut? That is because managers have seen a lot of him at Vasco and Inter and they werent impressed, it is not 2-3 good months that would change their minds!

Overall, Coutinho has been a good surprise to all of us (specially who have seen him failing at Italy), but he cant be put in the same sentence as Oscar. Our little number 10 is considered one of the very best promisses of football and this is no joke. I have no doubt he will have a great next season and Coutinho will start to have inconsistency (specially at big games). At the long run, Oscar will be by far the best player!

Well we all expect Oscar to be far better than Coutinho....he cost 25 million, Coutinho only cost around 10 million.

Oscar hasn't really done anything since his 2 goals against Juventus. He'll probably become a good player...eventually.

I think Coutinho hasn't been given a proper chance by the Brazilian NT due to a lack of playing time at club level. He's never been given the time to settle at a particular club...until Pochettino gave him a chance at Espanyol...and now he's full of confidence, playing well for Liverpool.

[Reddish-Blue 2,503]

Main differences between Coutinho and Oscar:

-Coutinho has forwards to feed

-Coutinho is naturally much faster

-Oscar is more of a midfielder while Coutinho is more of a forward

-Last but most importantly,Coutinho never plays out of position.

And as I said before,we can discuss this when Coutinho gives a brilliant performance vs someone like Juventus.Not Newcaslte,Villa etc, Im talking about CL and International level quality performances

Coutinho is versatile and capable of playing multiple positions. Oscar can only play as a CM or CAM...he's useless anywhere else on the pitch.

And unfortunately for Oscar, he's got to compete with a much better player in his favourite position at Chelsea.

[Rmpr 8,977]

Well we all expect Oscar to be far better than Coutinho....he cost 25 million, Coutinho only cost around 10 million.

Oscar hasn't really done anything since his 2 goals against Juventus. He'll probably become a good player...eventually.

I think Coutinho hasn't been given a proper chance by the Brazilian NT due to a lack of playing time at club level. He's never been given the time to settle at a particular club...until Pochettino gave him a chance at Espanyol...and now he's full of confidence, playing well for Liverpool.

The reason Oscar was 25mi is because Brazilian market is inflated and the reason why Coutinho went for 10mi was because Inter tried everything they could and he still failed. But I get your point and there is no arguing with it, he either lives up to the expectation or he leaves...

I think he has done a lot, like socring most of our European goals and giving balance to Mata and Hazard, but he did not have that great of a season. I just think people overreact when they analyze Oscar's first year at Chlesea. One because the adaptation really is tough, specially outside the football pitch (language, food, city, friends, etc). And second because I think our roller-coaster FSW season has prevented him from flourishing.

This has obviously influence, but the real problem is the FIFA U-20 WC. The team was supposed to built around be Neymar, Coutinho and Lucas. However, he failed badly and Oscar took his position throughout the tournament, with amazing displays and a hattrick in the final, he caught the eyes of everyone! On the professional NT, he got the opportunity after Ganso's injury and never had one single bad game, so no one doubts him anymore. If he continues to play like this in Liverpool, he will get the chance (specially because Kaka and Ronaldinho are aging), but until now, he hasnt done anything to make him deserve the place...

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[Special Juan 28,141]

So Coutinho is the new Neymar then?

[The Mak 4,459]

Well, at least someone is intelligent enough to make football points and explain them!

Coutinho is more prolific at dribbling and running past defenders because that is his style, a bit like Lucas Moura. Oscar, on the other hand, is more like a Pirlo or Modric (or even Lampard) type of player, they can all do fancy tricks, but it is just not part of their game. You will always see Coutinho making more headlines (if they were actually at the same level) than Oscar because that is just his thing.

Oscar did not have a very good season, like almost all our team, but this is his first ever season in a super different league. If the style of football in Brazilian to Italian Series A is already very apart, imagine Brazilian Serie A to EPL. He actually adapted very well, IMO. Remember he is the first real talented player to that direct transition in history...

I guess that Liverpool's current form and the love the media has for them make the minds of highly influenced kids (not that you are one, but you understand), but Oscar has been much better throughout all of his career and this shows in the NT. Have you never asked yourself why Coutinho doesnt even make the cut? That is because managers have seen a lot of him at Vasco and Inter and they werent impressed, it is not 2-3 good months that would change their minds!

Overall, Coutinho has been a good surprise to all of us (specially who have seen him failing at Italy), but he cant be put in the same sentence as Oscar. Our little number 10 is considered one of the very best promisses of football and this is no joke. I have no doubt he will have a great next season and Coutinho will start to have inconsistency (specially at big games). At the long run, Oscar will be by far the best player!

Nothing I can say, agreed!

[NiclasCFC 2,582]

What do you guys think is the best result in the Arsenal United game?
Personally i think a draw would be perfect because Arsenal obviously drop 2 points and United wont have the record to play for when we play them at Old Trafford.

[edetarod 2,155]

What do you guys think is the best result in the Arsenal United game?

Personally i think a draw would be perfect because Arsenal obviously drop 2 points and United wont have the record to play for when we play them at Old Trafford.

of course a draw is the best result

[Laylabelle 9,534]

Wolves all gone mental...look to be going down again...

Come on Reading!They win and bye bye QPR

[Ankit 3,176]

Wolves all gone mental...look to be going down again...

Come on Reading!They win and bye bye QPR

Would want QPR to win so that they have an incentive when they play Arsenal next weekend.

[didierforever 7,349]

What do you guys think is the best result in the Arsenal United game?

Personally i think a draw would be perfect because Arsenal obviously drop 2 points and United wont have the record to play for when we play them at Old Trafford.

a win for united no matter what... we ourselves will take care of united when it comes to not reaching 95 points.

[gary gordon 1,777]

NO offence to those with Down Syndrome, but Phil Jones looks like he should be cleaning tables at Mc Donalds during the day..