The English Football Thread

[killer1257 3,282]

When you look at Rashford and Greenwood, do we have to consider that maybe our attacking players who came through our youth system may have been a little overrated. 

Depends. Boga was the real deal but Chelsea did not rate him. CHO was not on Boga's level, but he is not a bad player. Just bad luck with his injury.

The next best attacker we have now is Broja and he is very, very good. Better than Tammy technically and very decent at scoring goals

 

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[Special Juan 27,529]

Tammy is way way way behind anything that Rashford or Greenwood produce, not even close.

[DDA 9,726]

Just now, Pizy said:

The biggest difference between those two and Tammy is that they're both fantastic footballers, not just great goal scorers. Tammy doesn't offer much of anything if he isn't scoring. 

Jury is still very much out on what CHO will become.

Exactly.

Greenwood has been nurtured into that United team perfectly thus far. 

I know Odoi's injury has really been unfortunate but even before, he wasn't impacting games like Rashford does for United.

 

[communicate 2,703]

Just now, DDA said:

Exactly.

Greenwood has been nurtured into that United team perfectly thus far. 

I know Odoi's injury has really been unfortunate but even before, he wasn't impacting games like Rashford does for United.

 

Rashford is 23 with 4 years of first team experience. He is not a youth player. Messi was playing at all time level when he was 23

[DDA 9,726]

2 minutes ago, killer1257 said:

Depends. Boga was the real deal but Chelsea did not rate him. CHO was not on Boga's level, but he is not a bad player. Just bad luck with his injury.

The next best attacker we have now is Broja and he is very, very good. Better than Tammy technically and very decent at scoring goals

 

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Personally haven't seen much of this Borja. So i can't judge but when we let Boga go, I was fuming. His potential was painfully obvious.

[Milan 17,878]

Yeah we should just ignore ManUnited, they are definitely going ahead of us. Leicester and Wolves are the teams we are fighting.

[Magic Lamps 11,677]

1 minute ago, Pizy said:

The biggest difference between those two and Tammy is that they're both fantastic footballers, not just great goal scorers. Tammy doesn't offer much of anything if he isn't scoring. 

Jury is still very much out on what CHO will become.

I somehow have the feeling that we have a knack of producing youth teams that win stuff at their level but rarely produce worldclass professional footballer afterwards. The closest thing playingin europe top leagues are Boga and Traore, with Christensen, RLC and CHO being some of our less useful squad members.

[DDA 9,726]

Just now, communicate said:

Rashford is 23 with 4 years of first team experience. He is not a youth player. Messi was playing at all time level when he was 23

That is true. Hopefully Odoi can kick on from his injur and in 3 or 4 years time, we start seeing a player producing with the same quality as Rashford.

[Laylabelle 9,406]

And thing is even if we do get 4th unless improve massively we won't get far..been years since got further then last 16 and doesnt look likely to change.

We had this in our hands. We shouldn't be waiting to see what happens with City. We were fine..until we went silly and forgot how to do the basics

[Magic Lamps 11,677]

2 minutes ago, Laylabelle said:

And thing is even if we do get 4th unless improve massively we won't get far..been years since got further then last 16 and doesnt look likely to change.

We had this in our hands. We shouldn't be waiting to see what happens with City. We were fine..until we went silly and forgot how to do the basics

Its about the money not the progress.

Plus i think we are more likely to leapfrog leicester than prevent being overtaken by manure

[DDA 9,726]

2 minutes ago, Milan said:

Yeah we should just ignore ManUnited, they are definitely going ahead of us. Leicester and Wolves are the teams we are fighting.

Leicester have Arsenal, Spurs and Man U still. If they finish above us, then I will be very surprised and they will deserve to.

[communicate 2,703]

1 minute ago, DDA said:

That is true. Hopefully Odoi can kick on from his injur and in 3 or 4 years time, we start seeing a player producing with the same quality as Rashford.

Just relax with CHO, he is very good. But he is still very young, he will go up and down. He just need to stay healthy first 

[Vesper 29,196]

I wonder if they are thinking about saying fuck it with Sancho

and adding KK or Skriniar, a LB, and a WC DMF (Matic is soon 32yo) like Thomas Partey (they have been linked with Ruben Neves for ages as well) and a new GK (De Gea is shit and I am not sold on Henderson, although he is so young and probably will improve a lot)

that is a huge call, as you do want to drop £120m if the end result is you stagnate off Greenwood

 

 

[killer1257 3,282]

Personally haven't seen much of this Borja. So i can't judge but when we let Boga go, I was fuming. His potential was painfully obvious.

I rate Broja highly and it pains me to see that Giroud and Tammy play in front of him. At least give him a chance. Can't do worse than them.

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[Special Juan 27,529]

2-0 Leicester

[Vesper 29,196]

1 minute ago, communicate said:

Just relax with CHO, he is very good. But he is still very young, he will go up and down. He just need to stay healthy first 

CHO has never remotely shown the quality of what Greenwood is exhibiting atm 

not saying he cannot, but he has not shown it on the pitch

[Vesper 29,196]

Just now, Special Juan said:

2-0 Leicester

100 goals finally for Vardy

all we need is for him to go all fireball again 

[Laylabelle 9,406]

3 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

Its about the money not the progress.

Plus i think we are more likely to leapfrog leicester than prevent being overtaken by manure

True but we nice to actually have a chance in it rather then get to the same point each time and go out. Recent years turned into Arsenal.

Hopefully..if we drop points today however who knows. Can't forget Wolves either still got as good a chance as we do. Only 2 behind.

Its the goal difference that seems mad to..Leicester 31..Man U 23..and us on little 13! Didnt help we started the season first game -4. Have struggled building it up since really.