The English Football Thread

[NikkiCFC 8,081]

5 hours ago, KEVINAA said:

The Football Association has said it is prepared to review evidence of potentially serious breaches of agent rules in a transfer involving Tottenham Hotspur, Portsmouth and Jermain Defoe

 

 

Take all Spurs titles. 

[Fulham Broadway 16,977]

Everton could land an additional financial penalty and another 7 point deduction. This comes amid claims that Leicester, Burnley, Leeds and Southampton – all of whom suffered relegation from the Premier League during the time since the investigation against Everton was launched – are banding together to claim for hundreds of millions of pounds in lost revenue.

PL is fracturing big time - keep an eye on those six that tried to break away for a 'suoer league', they will feel 'its their time' again

[OneMoSalah 8,810]

2 hours ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Everton could land an additional financial penalty and another 7 point deduction. This comes amid claims that Leicester, Burnley, Leeds and Southampton – all of whom suffered relegation from the Premier League during the time since the investigation against Everton was launched – are banding together to claim for hundreds of millions of pounds in lost revenue.

PL is fracturing big time - keep an eye on those six that tried to break away for a 'suoer league', they will feel 'its their time' again

Yep. Big clubs always get their way even after the ESL. Still a shambles we were involved in that and that the fines dished out where collectively about £25m between the 6 clubs.

I hope that the PL change their approach and whilst this may sound crazy, if they find us or City to have breached their rules, actually do something drastic about it because they’ve done Everton pretty harshly IMO. But if this is the way they want to go, it needs to be consistent and the punishment has to befitting of the crime, simple as that. If not, clubs like Everton will feel hugely aggrieved and the big boys will keep doing as they please.

[lucio 5,418]

Those clubs didn’t get relegated because Everton spent a few million too many. They got relegated because they are tin pot and rubbish 

[Fulham Broadway 16,977]

6 hours ago, lucio said:

Those clubs didn’t get relegated because Everton spent a few million too many. They got relegated because they are tin pot and rubbish 

Agree but where there's blame there's a claim - meanwhile the FA will look at how they can get more money out of it

[Fulham Broadway 16,977]

7 hours ago, OneMoSalah said:

Yep. Big clubs always get their way even after the ESL. Still a shambles we were involved in that and that the fines dished out where collectively about £25m between the 6 clubs.

I hope that the PL change their approach and whilst this may sound crazy, if they find us or City to have breached their rules, actually do something drastic about it because they’ve done Everton pretty harshly IMO. But if this is the way they want to go, it needs to be consistent and the punishment has to befitting of the crime, simple as that. If not, clubs like Everton will feel hugely aggrieved and the big boys will keep doing as they please.

You get the feeling Man City out of all the clubs -possibly Liverpool as well due to the permanent victim status- are untouchable. Agree Everton have been made an example of, probably as a deterrent to others, who will probably go unscathed apart from massive fines.

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On 21/11/2023 at 13:46, KEVINAA said:

The Football Association has said it is prepared to review evidence of potentially serious breaches of agent rules in a transfer involving Tottenham Hotspur, Portsmouth and Jermain Defoe

 

 

maybe they send Portsmouth to a French pub league, lolol

Le Pompey

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On 24/11/2023 at 07:57, Fulham Broadway said:

Agree but where there's blame there's a claim - meanwhile the FA will look at how they can get more money out of it

The FA chairwoman is Debbie Hewitt. Massive Pool fan, so there is that.

 

Debbie Hewitt appointed first chairwoman of Football Association

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/debbie-hewitt-appointed-first-chairwoman-of-football-association-tlk8b5b63

The FA is to appoint a chairwoman for the first time in its 157-year history.

The Times revealed in March that Debbie Hewitt, the former chief executive of the RAC who was appointed MBE for services to business and the public sector in 2011, had been identified as the successor to Greg Clarke, who was forced to resign over comments he made during a calamitous appearance before MPs.

The episode proved hugely damaging to the organisation. Clarke, 63, referred to black footballers as “coloured”, said Asians were predisposed to work in IT and suggested that female players did not like the ball being kicked hard at them.

Hewitt will be charged with leading the FA’s bid for the 2030 World Cup but her appointment should also help to enhance the reputation of the organisation.

A statement issued by Wembley officials this morning said the FA board has nominated the 57-year-old to become chair with effect from January 2022.

While about 100 applications were submitted, the statement said Hewitt, a lifelong Liverpool fan who lives in Cheshire, was a unanimous choice of the seven-member selection panel that was led by the independent non-executive FA director Kate Tinsley.

“The panel were in full agreement that she has the outstanding chair and governance expertise, across an extensive range of business sectors, as well as the proven leadership qualities and character required for the role,” the FA statement said.

“Debbie has an extensive non-executive career spanning over 15 years in listed, private equity backed and privately-owned companies, across many different sectors.

“She’s currently the non-executive Chair of Visa Europe, The Restaurant Group plc, BGL Group and White Stuff.

“After six years at The Restaurant Group plc, she will step down from this business when she joins the FA in January. She’s previously held non-executive Chair roles at Moss Bros plc, Evander Group, HR Owen plc and the HPI Group. Debbie was awarded an MBE in 2011 for services to business and the public sector.”

Hewitt said: “I’m delighted to be nominated for the role of Non-Executive Chair of The Football Association.”

“As the events in recent months have shown, this is a significant moment in time for English football, with a clear purpose for all stakeholders to secure the long-term health of the game at all levels.

“I’ve been passionate about football from a very young age and I’m excited by the opportunity to play my part in shaping the future of something that means so much to so many.

“I’m looking forward to working alongside our CEO Mark Bullingham and the team across Wembley Stadium and St George’s Park, and relish the opportunity to Chair an organisation that has the potential to be a very positive force for good throughout the game and across society.”

Tinsley said: “This is an excellent appointment for the FA and English football in general.

“Debbie was the outstanding candidate from a talented and experienced field. She immediately demonstrated her passion and ability to positively influence the direction of the FA on a domestic and global stage, providing strong and principled leadership along the way.”

The interim chair Peter McCormick added: “We’re delighted to nominate Debbie as our new Chair. Her experience across many different areas of business and general approach will allow her to work collaboratively across the game, while providing her own insight, experience and judgment on the issues that matter most. I very much look forward to working with her.”

The FA Council will be asked to formally ratify Hewitt’s appointment at its next meeting on 22 July 2021.

Clarke was paid about £190,000 a year for what is officially a three-days-a-week position.

 

 

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Chelsea's worst case scenario as FFP problems force Premier League relegation

Chelsea could be the next club to face a points deduction or even relegation - Express Sport looks at the worse case scenario for the Blues.

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1837316/Chelsea-news-FFP-Premier-League-relegation

Chelsea will be watching on nervously along with Manchester City as the dust settles from Everton's damaging 10-point deduction this season, leaving them in danger of relegation. That is because the punishment could be far greater for the Premier League duo, with accusations of breaching Financial Fair Play rules in the top-flight. They now face scrutiny over their dealings, with the threat of a catastrophic relegation hanging perilously above them.

It is a scenario that no Chelsea fan would ever want to entertain. The club have been part of the Premier League fabric since its conception in 1992 and their five titles between 2004-05 and 2016-17 speak to its dominance at different points under Roman Abramovich.

But their success could also come at a price, particularly as the Russian's dealings are being scrutinised while he was owner of the club. Allegations have been made that the billionaire made secret payments off the books involving transfers, and if they are proven to be true, the Blues face the threat of a heavy punishment if they are found to have breached the Premier League's profit and sustainability rules.

It is an issue Todd Boehly's ownership group BlueCo have been keen to resolve since it surfaced in their due diligence checks, yet it is under their rule that the club could slide into the second tier for the first time since 1991. With the potential threat of points deductions and even relegation on the cards, Express Sport imagines what life could look like for Chelsea in the worst case scenario...

Player exodus

Chelsea have splashed out over £1billion on players since Boehly's arrival in May 2022 and snapped up some big names in the process, breaking the £100million barrier twice in the space of eight months. But no one would seriously expect players such as Enzo Fernandez, Christopher Nkunku, Moises Caicedo and Mykhaylo Mudryk to stay at the club, despite only signing their eight-year contracts a year ago.

For one, Chelsea would need to drastically cut their wage bill - meaning anyone on over £80,000-a-week would need to go, which applies to two-thirds of their squad. And in the players' minds, there is no reason to stick around at a club that would have to wait two seasons just to have the chance to qualify for European competition again.

The best thing about promoting Cobham graduates such as Reece James, Conor Gallagher and Armando Broja to the first team is their loyalty to the club. Much like Juventus when the club were demoted to the Serie B after the Calciopoli scandal in 2006, some of the Italian club's biggest names including Gianluigi Buffon and Alessandro Del Piero remained in Turin. James, Gallagher and Broja may feel that same obligation to stick around and try to haul Chelsea back into the top flight, but there is no doubt relegation would spark a huge rush for the exit.

Losing their best coach in years

Chelsea have appointed a host of fine managers over the years before their acrimonious departures, and Maurizio Sarri remains the only boss to have left Stamford Bridge on his own terms after joining Juventus in 2019. Pochettino could follow suit if the west London club dropped out of the Premier League.

Pochettino is a loyal character, as proven by his five-year stint with Tottenham when he remained with the club while Real Madrid and Manchester United tried to lure him to their respective dugouts. But as a top coach, it would do Pochettino a disservice to his own profile as a manager to force him to work in the second tier for at least one season.

Much like how Carlo Ancelotti jumped ship at Everton as soon as Real came calling, few could blame Pochettino for clutching onto the life thrown to him from one of Europe's elite if the Chelsea ship starts to sink.

Struggle to return

How many clubs have sunk to the Championship and just... stayed there?

It is one of the toughest, most competitive leagues in the world and putting together a promotion challenge requires as much grit as it does finesse, not only with signings but finding the right balance between a solid backline and free-scoring attack.

Teams such as Bolton, Sunderland and Coventry have all suffered financial problems since leaving the Premier League and none of those three clubs have won promotion back to the top flight. The initial relegation will be quick and painful, but the journey back to the top would represent a massive challenge - even for a club of Chelsea's reputation.

New stadium plans shelved

Reductions in prize money, sponsorship and gate receipts will all be heavily affected as they slip into the Championship and the timing probably couldn't be worse to begin redeveloping Stamford Bridge. 

Boehly had promised to invest billions into the club to ensure their beloved home could be taken into the 21st Century. Alas, attendances are likely to fall in the scenario where they drop out of the Premier League and it would be hard to justify building a 60,000-seater arena when their future is uncertain.

After years of delays and planning permission failures, Chelsea might be tempted to abandon their plans altogether.

 

Edited November 25, 2023 by Vesper

[Fulham Broadway 16,977]

28 minutes ago, Vesper said:

Chelsea's worst case scenario as FFP problems force Premier League relegation

Chelsea could be the next club to face a points deduction or even relegation - Express Sport looks at the worse case scenario for the Blues.

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1837316/Chelsea-news-FFP-Premier-League-relegation

Chelsea will be watching on nervously along with Manchester City as the dust settles from Everton's damaging 10-point deduction this season, leaving them in danger of relegation. That is because the punishment could be far greater for the Premier League duo, with accusations of breaching Financial Fair Play rules in the top-flight. They now face scrutiny over their dealings, with the threat of a catastrophic relegation hanging perilously above them.

It is a scenario that no Chelsea fan would ever want to entertain. The club have been part of the Premier League fabric since its conception in 1992 and their five titles between 2004-05 and 2016-17 speak to its dominance at different points under Roman Abramovich.

But their success could also come at a price, particularly as the Russian's dealings are being scrutinised while he was owner of the club. Allegations have been made that the billionaire made secret payments off the books involving transfers, and if they are proven to be true, the Blues face the threat of a heavy punishment if they are found to have breached the Premier League's profit and sustainability rules.

It is an issue Todd Boehly's ownership group BlueCo have been keen to resolve since it surfaced in their due diligence checks, yet it is under their rule that the club could slide into the second tier for the first time since 1991. With the potential threat of points deductions and even relegation on the cards, Express Sport imagines what life could look like for Chelsea in the worst case scenario...

Player exodus

Chelsea have splashed out over £1billion on players since Boehly's arrival in May 2022 and snapped up some big names in the process, breaking the £100million barrier twice in the space of eight months. But no one would seriously expect players such as Enzo Fernandez, Christopher Nkunku, Moises Caicedo and Mykhaylo Mudryk to stay at the club, despite only signing their eight-year contracts a year ago.

For one, Chelsea would need to drastically cut their wage bill - meaning anyone on over £80,000-a-week would need to go, which applies to two-thirds of their squad. And in the players' minds, there is no reason to stick around at a club that would have to wait two seasons just to have the chance to qualify for European competition again.

The best thing about promoting Cobham graduates such as Reece James, Conor Gallagher and Armando Broja to the first team is their loyalty to the club. Much like Juventus when the club were demoted to the Serie B after the Calciopoli scandal in 2006, some of the Italian club's biggest names including Gianluigi Buffon and Alessandro Del Piero remained in Turin. James, Gallagher and Broja may feel that same obligation to stick around and try to haul Chelsea back into the top flight, but there is no doubt relegation would spark a huge rush for the exit.

Losing their best coach in years

Chelsea have appointed a host of fine managers over the years before their acrimonious departures, and Maurizio Sarri remains the only boss to have left Stamford Bridge on his own terms after joining Juventus in 2019. Pochettino could follow suit if the west London club dropped out of the Premier League.

Pochettino is a loyal character, as proven by his five-year stint with Tottenham when he remained with the club while Real Madrid and Manchester United tried to lure him to their respective dugouts. But as a top coach, it would do Pochettino a disservice to his own profile as a manager to force him to work in the second tier for at least one season.

Much like how Carlo Ancelotti jumped ship at Everton as soon as Real came calling, few could blame Pochettino for clutching onto the life thrown to him from one of Europe's elite if the Chelsea ship starts to sink.

Struggle to return

How many clubs have sunk to the Championship and just... stayed there?

It is one of the toughest, most competitive leagues in the world and putting together a promotion challenge requires as much grit as it does finesse, not only with signings but finding the right balance between a solid backline and free-scoring attack.

Teams such as Bolton, Sunderland and Coventry have all suffered financial problems since leaving the Premier League and none of those three clubs have won promotion back to the top flight. The initial relegation will be quick and painful, but the journey back to the top would represent a massive challenge - even for a club of Chelsea's reputation.

New stadium plans shelved

Reductions in prize money, sponsorship and gate receipts will all be heavily affected as they slip into the Championship and the timing probably couldn't be worse to begin redeveloping Stamford Bridge. 

Boehly had promised to invest billions into the club to ensure their beloved home could be taken into the 21st Century. Alas, attendances are likely to fall in the scenario where they drop out of the Premier League and it would be hard to justify building a 60,000-seater arena when their future is uncertain.

After years of delays and planning permission failures, Chelsea might be tempted to abandon their plans altogether.

 

Have to remember the Daily Express is owned by West Ham Porn merchants who made their money out of such luminary tomes as 'Big Tits Monthly' and 'Asian Babes'

[Vesper 29,202]

15 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Have to remember the Daily Express is owned by West Ham Porn merchants who made their money out of such luminary tomes as 'Big Tits Monthly' and 'Asian Babes'

Richard Desmond, the pornographer (but no ties to West Ham, as far as I know, as their (West Ham) pornographer owners were David Gold (now dead) and David Sullivan), sold the Express to Reach plc (formerly Trinity Mirror) in 2018 for £200m.

 

Trinity Mirror buys Express and Star in £200m deal

Richard Desmond agrees to sell newspapers along with celebrity magazine OK!

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/feb/09/trinity-mirror-buys-express-star-127m-deal-richard-desmond-ok

The owner of the Mirror newspaper group has sealed a £200m deal with Richard Desmond to buy his Express and Star national titles, as well as the celebrity magazine OK!

Trinity Mirror, the publisher of the Labour-supporting Daily and Sunday Mirror as well as the Sunday People, has paid £126.7m for Desmond’s Brexit-supporting titles. The company has also agreed to invest £70.4m in staff pension schemes through to 2027.

The company’s share price surged nearly 15% in early trading, with investors buoyed by the financial benefits and cost saving opportunities of one of the most significant mergers among British national newspapers in decades.

 

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[Laylabelle 9,406]

Can see Liverpool winning this one. They seemed to have slipped under the radar and yet are right right up there and looking strong 

Hopefully wrong but shall see...

Edited November 25, 2023 by Laylabelle

[Vesper 29,202]

https://www.vipleague.la/epl/manchester-city-vs-liverpool-3-live-streaming (Sky)

https://www.vipleague.la/epl/manchester-city-vs-liverpool-1-live-streaming

https://www.vipleague.la/epl/manchester-city-vs-liverpool-2-live-streaming

[Fulham Broadway 16,977]

13 minutes ago, Vesper said:

Richard Desmond, the pornographer (but no ties to West Ham, as far as I know, as their (West Ham) pornographer owners were David Gold (now dead) and David Sullivan), sold the Express to Reach plc (formerly Trinity Mirror) in 2018 for £200m.

 

Trinity Mirror buys Express and Star in £200m deal

Richard Desmond agrees to sell newspapers along with celebrity magazine OK!

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/feb/09/trinity-mirror-buys-express-star-127m-deal-richard-desmond-ok

The owner of the Mirror newspaper group has sealed a £200m deal with Richard Desmond to buy his Express and Star national titles, as well as the celebrity magazine OK!

Trinity Mirror, the publisher of the Labour-supporting Daily and Sunday Mirror as well as the Sunday People, has paid £126.7m for Desmond’s Brexit-supporting titles. The company has also agreed to invest £70.4m in staff pension schemes through to 2027.

The company’s share price surged nearly 15% in early trading, with investors buoyed by the financial benefits and cost saving opportunities of one of the most significant mergers among British national newspapers in decades.

 

They still print the most reactionary racist shit, most of their 'stories' are pure fiction and scaremongering - not sure about their football 'stories' though

[Fulham Broadway 16,977]

8 minutes ago, Laylabelle said:

Can see Liverpool winning this one. They seemed to have slipped under the radar and yet are right right up there and looking strong 

Hopefully wrong but shall see...

Nah Citeh all day long....😁

[Vesper 29,202]

5 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

They still print the most reactionary racist shit, most of their 'stories' are pure fiction and scaremongering - not sure about their football 'stories' though

oh, no doubt, they are RW shit politically

from that article:

Simon Fox, the chief executive of Trinity Mirror, said the five national newspapers would remain editorially independent.

“The Mirror is not going to go right-wing and the Express is not going to go leftwing,” he told the Guardian. “They will absolutely all have editorial independence. Decisions on what goes into each title will be entirely down to the editors.”