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1 hour ago, Milan said:

If Liverpool beat United, City are champs. Otherwise they can celebrate after the clash with us lol

Danger with City having nothing to play for when they meet us is they could go out completely relaxed and shit all over us.

But even is they do have nothing to play for, they won't want to lose two on the trot to us, so count on them being up for it.

 

 

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9 hours ago, Vesper said:

OUR SHOW OF SOLIDARITY: THREE PARAGRAPHS CONTAINING NOTHING

As a mere garden-variety email, The Fiver doesn’t technically qualify as a social media. Quibble over the strict definitions all you want, but we simply don’t tick all the boxes. For a start, people read, pay attention to and enjoy social media. Unlike social media, The Fiver cannot slake your thirst for pictures of household animals cutely peering out of domestic sanitary facilities. And there’s no point asking The Fiver to join in the latest late-night reach-around as you all applaud each other’s staggering genius, we’re halfway through this bottle of Fistfight for a start, plus the snooker’s on, and in any case there are plenty of comment writers, panel-show contestants and phone-in hosts out there who will happily field that sort of thing.

Having said all that, it would be remiss of The Fiver to ignore the upcoming four-day sporting boycott of social media disgraces and content hucksters such as Twitter, Facebook and Instagram. Football clubs, organisations and players across the land are removing themselves from the aforementioned platforms in a symbolic attempt to clean up the fibre-optic sewer of abuse that sluices the dregs of humanity into our homes 24-7. This extremely welcome and frankly long overdue show of silent solidarity begins on Friday afternoon at 3pm BST and ideally would end sometime in the year 2525, but in actuality finishes at one minute before midnight on Monday, which is a start, and we’ll grab what we can with both hands.

“This boycott signifies our collective anger,” says Kick It Out chairperson Sanjay Bhandari. “We are making a symbolic gesture to those with power. We need you to act. We need you to create change.” The Fiver is all in with this plan, so much so that earlier today we asked The Man if we could down tools in order to show our support, and absolutely not so we’d be free to get stuck into the remainder of that bottle of 73.8% ABV turps-flavoured beverage and watch Wilson-Murphy from the Crucible. The Man didn’t fall for our wheeze, though never let it be said that he isn’t open to compromise. “Three paragraphs as usual,” he bellowed, “but you can chip off at 2.59pm, and given the serious nature of the subject, don’t feel obliged to come up with any witty jokes.” As The Fiver sailed back through The Man’s office door along a perfect parabola towards our desk, one eyebrow was slowly raised.

These media organizations are really hypocrites. They decided to take the moral high ground by boycotting social media when they have contributed to the online abuse for years. 

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hace 54 minutos, Jas dijo:

These media organizations are really hypocrites. They decided to take the moral high ground by boycotting social media when they have contributed to the online abuse for years. 

100%.

Maybe to a lesser extent but I still remember the whole “Diego Costa crimes” incident. Jose referenced that Jamie Redknapp had started on Sky after the game v Liverpool. That tag ultimately remained with Costa throughout his time in the PL and apparently there was talk he didn’t like it or didn’t like that Jose didn’t defend him fully as well as his lack of english meant he couldn't really defend himself to the press either so they had this impression thats what he was.

Also re Sarri not playing Kante as a number 6, that whole debacle was started by the media despite Kante never having played as a fixed pivot in the PL ever. It led to people doubting him from the off and also put huge unnecessary pressure on Jorginho who ended up getting a lot of stick from our own fans later on in the season.

Whilst not anywhere near as bad as the online abuse or racist incidents, the media definitely do stir the pot with these sort of things and ultimately they contribute to these things becoming accelerated which leads to the unfortunate and disgusting racist abuse you see online from various idiots. The whole Son situation after the Man Utd game, yes maybe he dived or tried conning the ref but Ole’s OTT reaction didnt help the situation and then the idiots obviously felt that racially abusing someone from behind a Twitter account was a good thing to do. Everything has a point which starts something off or accelerates it to an extreme. 

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3 hours ago, Jas said:

These media organizations are really hypocrites. They decided to take the moral high ground by boycotting social media when they have contributed to the online abuse for years. 

That said, there's also been some truly evil hypocrisy from so called "anti racists"  who've liked people who voted for Brexit or Tory as being as bad as war criminals - saw it on a football forum with a very hard left fanbase. Others on the left were hoping Boris died when he had covid and one Labour councilor even went as far as saying he wished covid was around during the Brexit vote and killed off all those who voted to leave.

Yet, every one of those people will see themselves as morally upstanding, decent citizens.

In case you think I'm defending racists, then no, I am not! Never voted Tory or for Brexit, but I hate Left wing extremists every bit as much as I hate the genuine far right. All devisive, poisonous cnuts as far as I'm concerned.

 

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2 hours ago, OneMoSalah said:

100%.

Maybe to a lesser extent but I still remember the whole “Diego Costa crimes” incident. Jose referenced that Jamie Redknapp had started on Sky after the game v Liverpool. That tag ultimately remained with Costa throughout his time in the PL and apparently there was talk he didn’t like it or didn’t like that Jose didn’t defend him fully as well as his lack of english meant he couldn't really defend himself to the press either so they had this impression thats what he was.

Also re Sarri not playing Kante as a number 6, that whole debacle was started by the media despite Kante never having played as a fixed pivot in the PL ever. It led to people doubting him from the off and also put huge unnecessary pressure on Jorginho who ended up getting a lot of stick from our own fans later on in the season.

Whilst not anywhere near as bad as the online abuse or racist incidents, the media definitely do stir the pot with these sort of things and ultimately they contribute to these things becoming accelerated which leads to the unfortunate and disgusting racist abuse you see online from various idiots. The whole Son situation after the Man Utd game, yes maybe he dived or tried conning the ref but Ole’s OTT reaction didnt help the situation and then the idiots obviously felt that racially abusing someone from behind a Twitter account was a good thing to do. Everything has a point which starts something off or accelerates it to an extreme. 

The worst thing about this is places Sky Sports, BT Sport, TalkSport constantly have pundits who just give hot takes and no proper analysis, insight to get clicks and likes week in week out. It's no different to fans who do the same on social media and the only difference is the fans use foul language or profanities instead. What those hot takes ended up doing is just stoking the fire on teams, players, managers and giving the fans "food" to jump on them. 

This is less common but there are also media sites - e.g. Goal, Daily Mail - that indirectly give fans the platform to be braver in abusing others by gathering their tweets to make articles over incidents that happen during a match or whatever. If the article is on something good/happy, then fine. But if isn't, then again, it just add more fuel to the fire on the subject out there. 

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Its scary how far people take things these days...but like you say media and that plays such a huge part! Player making a error and receiving threats..lets show that error from various angles.

I get the reason for the boycott. Platforms just let shitty or racist comments stand but for media such as Daily Mail to try and take the high ground...ermm no!

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4 hours ago, chippy said:

Danger with City having nothing to play for when they meet us is they could go out completely relaxed and shit all over us.

But even is they do have nothing to play for, they won't want to lose two on the trot to us, so count on them being up for it.

 

 

I would honestly prefer them to be done with the league once they face us. Liverpool got hammered last season the game after their title win. Btu then again City have a huge squad and are well rested anyways so willnot suddenly break intenstiy. they still beat us heavily tho

Still if they have nothing to play for and we do with TT's defensive organisation i can see us shutting them out again.

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Having thought about it again a draw between ManUre and the dippers would be perfect.

the point helps neither one of them. pool keep a healthy 6 points distance to us, ManCity then only need only one more point. This means they will neither play completeley freely  vs us having already all but secured the title nor will they play out of their skins cos after all it is only a point in 4 games so no drama if they lose this.

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Some of their fans want the club to be owned by the fans. Absolutely zero chance of that ever happening! Some fan representation on the boards of clubs might be a good move forward tho.

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