The English Football Thread

[Pizy 18,952]

Hope I don't jinx it, but this match has 90th minute Bruno Fernandes penalty written all over it. Wolves dangerous but missing the final pass while United not troubling Wolves too much at all. So I'm sure Martial will dive for a soft pen and give them the 3 points.

[Vesper 30,224]

49 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Sorry I don’t read German. Where are his quotes? 

Werner nach Liverpool?

Nach BILD-Informationen ist die Premier League und Liverpool das bevorzugte Ziel des Nationalspielers. Die Frage ist nur, wann er wechseln will. Im vergangenen Sommer war der FC Bayern an ihm dran. Doch Werner hatte seinen Vertrag in Leipzig bis 2023 verlängert. Inklusive einer Ausstiegsklausel von zunächst 60 Mio Euro. Die soll sich aber von Jahr zu Jahr verringern.

Fakt ist: Werner passt in das Klopp-System. Fast identisch wie in Leipzig spielt Liverpool mit ultraschnellem Umschaltspiel. Seine enorme Schnelligkeit könnte Werner hervorragend ausspielen. Viel besser als im Ballbesitz-Fußball des FC Bayern. Zudem braucht Werner einen Trainer, der ihm absolutes Vertrauen schenkt und viel kommuniziert. Da müsste man sich bei Klopp wenig Sorgen machen.

Im Interview hatte Werner erst in der vergangenen Woche von der Insel geschwärmt: „Die Premier League ist einfach die interessanteste Liga, das muss man ehrlich sagen. Da laufen jedes Wochenende viele Bayern Münchens und Real Madrids auf. Es hat ein gewisses Flair bekommen, englische Liga zu gucken und dort zu spielen.“

 

According to BILD information, the Premier League and Liverpool is the preferred goal of the international. The only question is when he wants to change. It was his turn last summer. But Werner had extended his contract in Leipzig until 2023. Including an exit clause of initially 60 million euros. But that should decrease from year to year.

The fact is: Werner fits into the Klopp system. Liverpool plays almost identical to Leipzig with an ultra-fast switching game. Werner could play his tremendous speed very well. Much better than in Bayern's possession football. Werner also needs a trainer who gives him absolute trust and communicates a lot. There should be little to worry about at Klopp.

In an interview Werner had only raved about the island (England) last week: “The Premier League is simply the most interesting league, you have to honestly say that. There are many Bavarian Munich and Real Madrid crowds every weekend. It got a certain flair to watch the English league and play there. ”

 

http://www.fussballtransfers.com/bundesliga/werner-premier-league-ist-einfach-die-interessanteste-liga_113357

Timo Werner braucht mit seiner Schnelligkeit mehr Räume“, erklärte Hasan Salihamidzic am gestrigen Mittwoch. Im Gegensatz dazu sei „Robert Lewandowski ein Stürmer ist, der zu unserer Spielweise ideal passt“. Ein Werner-Transfer war deshalb für den Rekordmeister kein Thema. Der Stürmer von RB Leipzig reagiert auf die Absage weltmännisch.

„Auch Lewandowski hat sein Spiel verändert“

„Ich glaube, da hat jeder seine eigene Meinung“, erklärt Werner gegenüber der ‚Bild‘ salomonisch, stellt jedoch fest: „Aber ganz unabhängig von seiner Aussage: Sie haben ja auch viele Spieler, wie Serge und Coman, die über die Außen mit Schnelligkeit kommen und in die Tiefe gehen. Aber natürlich hat er recht in dem Punkt, dass Lewandowski ein super Stürmer ist und sie vorne sehr gut besetzt sind. Ich glaube aber auch, dass gerade Lewandowski über die Jahre sein Spiel verändert hat. Weil er bei Bayern auf engstem Raum spielt, in Dortmund hat er unter Klopp auch Umschaltfußball gespielt.“

Werner erkennt dabei durchaus Parallelen zu sich: „Früher war Lewandowski ein Spielertyp, ähnlich wie ich, der tief geht und schnell umschaltet. Klar, wenn man älter wird verliert man vielleicht auch etwas diese ganz enorme Spritzigkeit, aber er hat sich aber auch an das Bayern-System anpassen und sich weiterentwickeln müssen, weil sie viel auf Ballbesitz ausgelegt sind. Ich kann nur über und für mich sprechen: Ich bin 23 und kann noch viele Sachen lernen. In Leipzig habe ich ja schon oft gezeigt, dass ich gegen tiefstehende Mannschaften treffen und mich gut in engen Räumen bewegen kann.“

Dass grundsätzlich über einen Wechsel nach München diskutiert wurde, will Werner nicht verneinen „Im Sommer gab es viele Überlegungen, unter anderem Bayern“, räumt der 23-jährige Rechtsfuß ein, „aber ich habe mich unter anderem für eine Verlängerung entschieden, weil ich mich hier sehr wohl fühle und weil ich mit Julian einen Trainer habe, der mich weiterbringen kann. Ich habe meine Ruhe, denn wenn ein Verein Interesse an mir hätte, müsste er sich aufgrund meiner Vertragslaufzeit an RB wenden.“

„Premier League ist einfach die interessanteste Liga“

Wie viele Profis seines Kalibers träumt auch der gebürtige Stuttgarter vom Ausland – speziell von der englischen Premier League: „Irgendwann wäre das Ausland sicher einmal reizvoll. Ich spiele ja gerne bei Fritz-Walter-Wetter, deshalb wäre generell England auch nicht schlecht. Die Premier League ist einfach die interessanteste Liga, das muss man ehrlich sagen. Da laufen jedes Wochenende viele Bayern Münchens und Real Madrids auf. Es hat ein gewisses Flair bekommen, englische Liga zu gucken und dort zu spielen.“

 

With his speed, Timo Werner needs more space, ”explained Hasan Salihamidzic on Wednesday. In contrast, "Robert Lewandowski is a striker who fits our style of play perfectly". A Werner transfer was therefore not an issue for the record champions. The RB Leipzig striker reacts to the refusal in a sophisticated manner.

"Lewandowski also changed his game"

'
"I think everyone has their own opinion," Werner explains to the 'Bild' Solomon, but states: "But regardless of what he said: You also have a lot of players, like Serge and Coman, who are involved with the outside world Speed come and go in depth. But of course he is right in the point that Lewandowski is a great striker and they are very well occupied in the front. But I also believe that Lewandowski has changed his game over the years. Because he plays in a confined space at Bayern, in Dortmund he also played switch soccer under Klopp. "

Werner recognizes parallels to himself: “In the past Lewandowski was a type of player, like me, who goes deep and switches quickly. Sure, as you get older you might lose something of this tremendous liveliness, but he also had to adapt to the Bayern system and develop because they are designed for possession of the ball. I can only talk about and for myself: I am 23 and can still learn a lot of things. In Leipzig I have often shown that I can meet low teams and move well in tight spaces. ”

Werner does not want to deny that there was a general discussion about a move to Munich. "There were many considerations in the summer, including Bavaria," admits the 23-year-old right-footer, "but I decided, among other things, for an extension because I decided to feel very comfortable here and because I have a trainer with Julian who can take me further. I have my peace of mind because if an association were interested in me, they would have to contact RB because of my contract term. ”

"Premier League is just the most interesting league"
Like many professionals of his calibre, the native of Stuttgart dreams of abroad - especially of the English Premier League: “At some point abroad would surely be attractive. I like to play with Fritz-Walter-Wetter, so England would not be bad in general. The Premier League is simply the most interesting league, to be honest. There are many Bavarian Munich and Real Madrid crowds every weekend. It got a certain flair to watch the English league and play there. ”

 

here is the entire original interview, but it is now behind a paywall

https://www.bild.de/bild-plus/sport/fussball/fussball/rb-leipzig-welche-liga-timo-werner-am-meisten-rezt-67346004,view=conversionToLogin.bild.html

 

also

Fritz-Walter-Wetter means colder rainy weather

after the old German footballer Fritz Walter, who had chronic malaria from WWII and hated to play in the heat

[MoroccanBlue 5,385]

19 minutes ago, Vesper said:

Werner nach Liverpool?

Nach BILD-Informationen ist die Premier League und Liverpool das bevorzugte Ziel des Nationalspielers. Die Frage ist nur, wann er wechseln will. Im vergangenen Sommer war der FC Bayern an ihm dran. Doch Werner hatte seinen Vertrag in Leipzig bis 2023 verlängert. Inklusive einer Ausstiegsklausel von zunächst 60 Mio Euro. Die soll sich aber von Jahr zu Jahr verringern.

Fakt ist: Werner passt in das Klopp-System. Fast identisch wie in Leipzig spielt Liverpool mit ultraschnellem Umschaltspiel. Seine enorme Schnelligkeit könnte Werner hervorragend ausspielen. Viel besser als im Ballbesitz-Fußball des FC Bayern. Zudem braucht Werner einen Trainer, der ihm absolutes Vertrauen schenkt und viel kommuniziert. Da müsste man sich bei Klopp wenig Sorgen machen.

Im Interview hatte Werner erst in der vergangenen Woche von der Insel geschwärmt: „Die Premier League ist einfach die interessanteste Liga, das muss man ehrlich sagen. Da laufen jedes Wochenende viele Bayern Münchens und Real Madrids auf. Es hat ein gewisses Flair bekommen, englische Liga zu gucken und dort zu spielen.“

 

According to BILD information, the Premier League and Liverpool is the preferred goal of the international. The only question is when he wants to change. It was his turn last summer. But Werner had extended his contract in Leipzig until 2023. Including an exit clause of initially 60 million euros. But that should decrease from year to year.

The fact is: Werner fits into the Klopp system. Liverpool plays almost identical to Leipzig with an ultra-fast switching game. Werner could play his tremendous speed very well. Much better than in Bayern's possession football. Werner also needs a trainer who gives him absolute trust and communicates a lot. There should be little to worry about at Klopp.

In an interview Werner had only raved about the island (England) last week: “The Premier League is simply the most interesting league, you have to honestly say that. There are many Bavarian Munich and Real Madrid crowds every weekend. It got a certain flair to watch the English league and play there. ”

 

http://www.fussballtransfers.com/bundesliga/werner-premier-league-ist-einfach-die-interessanteste-liga_113357

Timo Werner braucht mit seiner Schnelligkeit mehr Räume“, erklärte Hasan Salihamidzic am gestrigen Mittwoch. Im Gegensatz dazu sei „Robert Lewandowski ein Stürmer ist, der zu unserer Spielweise ideal passt“. Ein Werner-Transfer war deshalb für den Rekordmeister kein Thema. Der Stürmer von RB Leipzig reagiert auf die Absage weltmännisch.

„Auch Lewandowski hat sein Spiel verändert“

„Ich glaube, da hat jeder seine eigene Meinung“, erklärt Werner gegenüber der ‚Bild‘ salomonisch, stellt jedoch fest: „Aber ganz unabhängig von seiner Aussage: Sie haben ja auch viele Spieler, wie Serge und Coman, die über die Außen mit Schnelligkeit kommen und in die Tiefe gehen. Aber natürlich hat er recht in dem Punkt, dass Lewandowski ein super Stürmer ist und sie vorne sehr gut besetzt sind. Ich glaube aber auch, dass gerade Lewandowski über die Jahre sein Spiel verändert hat. Weil er bei Bayern auf engstem Raum spielt, in Dortmund hat er unter Klopp auch Umschaltfußball gespielt.“

Werner erkennt dabei durchaus Parallelen zu sich: „Früher war Lewandowski ein Spielertyp, ähnlich wie ich, der tief geht und schnell umschaltet. Klar, wenn man älter wird verliert man vielleicht auch etwas diese ganz enorme Spritzigkeit, aber er hat sich aber auch an das Bayern-System anpassen und sich weiterentwickeln müssen, weil sie viel auf Ballbesitz ausgelegt sind. Ich kann nur über und für mich sprechen: Ich bin 23 und kann noch viele Sachen lernen. In Leipzig habe ich ja schon oft gezeigt, dass ich gegen tiefstehende Mannschaften treffen und mich gut in engen Räumen bewegen kann.“

Dass grundsätzlich über einen Wechsel nach München diskutiert wurde, will Werner nicht verneinen „Im Sommer gab es viele Überlegungen, unter anderem Bayern“, räumt der 23-jährige Rechtsfuß ein, „aber ich habe mich unter anderem für eine Verlängerung entschieden, weil ich mich hier sehr wohl fühle und weil ich mit Julian einen Trainer habe, der mich weiterbringen kann. Ich habe meine Ruhe, denn wenn ein Verein Interesse an mir hätte, müsste er sich aufgrund meiner Vertragslaufzeit an RB wenden.“

„Premier League ist einfach die interessanteste Liga“

Wie viele Profis seines Kalibers träumt auch der gebürtige Stuttgarter vom Ausland – speziell von der englischen Premier League: „Irgendwann wäre das Ausland sicher einmal reizvoll. Ich spiele ja gerne bei Fritz-Walter-Wetter, deshalb wäre generell England auch nicht schlecht. Die Premier League ist einfach die interessanteste Liga, das muss man ehrlich sagen. Da laufen jedes Wochenende viele Bayern Münchens und Real Madrids auf. Es hat ein gewisses Flair bekommen, englische Liga zu gucken und dort zu spielen.“

 

With his speed, Timo Werner needs more space, ”explained Hasan Salihamidzic on Wednesday. In contrast, "Robert Lewandowski is a striker who fits our style of play perfectly". A Werner transfer was therefore not an issue for the record champions. The RB Leipzig striker reacts to the refusal in a sophisticated manner.

"Lewandowski also changed his game"

'
"I think everyone has their own opinion," Werner explains to the 'Bild' Solomon, but states: "But regardless of what he said: You also have a lot of players, like Serge and Coman, who are involved with the outside world Speed come and go in depth. But of course he is right in the point that Lewandowski is a great striker and they are very well occupied in the front. But I also believe that Lewandowski has changed his game over the years. Because he plays in a confined space at Bayern, in Dortmund he also played switch soccer under Klopp. "

Werner recognizes parallels to himself: “In the past Lewandowski was a type of player, like me, who goes deep and switches quickly. Sure, as you get older you might lose something of this tremendous liveliness, but he also had to adapt to the Bayern system and develop because they are designed for possession of the ball. I can only talk about and for myself: I am 23 and can still learn a lot of things. In Leipzig I have often shown that I can meet low teams and move well in tight spaces. ”

Werner does not want to deny that there was a general discussion about a move to Munich. "There were many considerations in the summer, including Bavaria," admits the 23-year-old right-footer, "but I decided, among other things, for an extension because I decided to feel very comfortable here and because I have a trainer with Julian who can take me further. I have my peace of mind because if an association were interested in me, they would have to contact RB because of my contract term. ”

"Premier League is just the most interesting league"
Like many professionals of his calibre, the native of Stuttgart dreams of abroad - especially of the English Premier League: “At some point abroad would surely be attractive. I like to play with Fritz-Walter-Wetter, so England would not be bad in general. The Premier League is simply the most interesting league, to be honest. There are many Bavarian Munich and Real Madrid crowds every weekend. It got a certain flair to watch the English league and play there. ”

 

here is the entire original interview, but it is now behind a paywall

https://www.bild.de/bild-plus/sport/fussball/fussball/rb-leipzig-welche-liga-timo-werner-am-meisten-rezt-67346004,view=conversionToLogin.bild.html

 

also

Fritz-Walter-Wetter means colder rainy weather

after the old German footballer Fritz Walter, who had chronic malaria from WWII and hated to play in the heat

No where at all does he directly say he wants to join Liverpool. 

Literally no where. 

[Vesper 30,224]

6 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

No where at all does he directly say he wants to join Liverpool. 

Literally no where. 

According to BILD information, the Premier League and Liverpool is the preferred goal of the international. 

which comes from the previous interview here

https://www.bild.de/bild-plus/sport/fussball/fussball/rb-leipzig-welche-liga-timo-werner-am-meisten-reizt-67346004,view=conversionToLogin.bild.html

we shall see who is right and who is wrong

I like my track record

[Atomiswave 6,118]

42 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Hope I don't jinx it, but this match has 90th minute Bruno Fernandes penalty written all over it. Wolves dangerous but missing the final pass while United not troubling Wolves too much at all. So I'm sure Martial will dive for a soft pen and give them the 3 points.

And we all know the refs love to give utd pens......they must remain somewhat relevant

[Nicco 927]

1 minute ago, Vesper said:

According to BILD information, the Premier League and Liverpool is the preferred goal of the international. 

which comes from the previous interview here

https://www.bild.de/bild-plus/sport/fussball/fussball/rb-leipzig-welche-liga-timo-werner-am-meisten-reizt-67346004,view=conversionToLogin.bild.html

we shall see who is right and who is wrong

I like my track record

According to X, should always be treated with a pinch of salt. I doubt Liverpool want him to begin with.

[Atomiswave 6,118]

1 minute ago, Nicco said:

According to X, should always be treated with a pinch of salt. I doubt Liverpool want him to begin with.

They would not say no ti him thats for sure........but they have a front 3 that are never injured and very lethal

[Atomiswave 6,118]

Bruno looks very good to be honest....has had more shots than the rest of his mates combined. We could have used him imo.

[Vesper 30,224]

Just now, Nicco said:

According to X, should always be treated with a pinch of salt. I doubt Liverpool want him to begin with.

we shall see

I know some on here think he is lead pipe cinch to end up here and plan the summer around him and Sancho and Chilwell

I say no

in fact I can see us missing out on all 3

Sancho as a miss would most disturb me (I do think he is the most likely to truly want to come here)

Werner is my number one want at striker (with Lautaro also a co-number one, but I do not see us dropping that type of quid) but I do not see him coming here

Chilwell at £80m is absurd IMHO

I have very little faith in the board at a multiplicity of levels so my Negative Nancy stance is understandable

they are on a horrid all-round run and if we miss out on CL again and do not sell Kante and roll up another loss I can see a large amount of the monies gained from sales going to shore up our FFP standing

I am under no illusions that we are going to drop 400m plus gross in the summer window

[Milan 17,959]

Yes, 0-0, this is a golden result for us.

Now come on City tomorrow.

[Atomiswave 6,118]

Damn manu almost stole the game right there

[Nicco 927]

Great result for us, as long as we don't lose against United and Tottenham we should be ok for a while longer.

[Vesper 30,224]

6 minutes ago, Atomiswave said:

They would not say no ti him thats for sure ........ but they have a front 3 that are never injured and very lethal

his game is tailor made for Klopp-ball and they can get him for half what he worth this summer

never underestimate Klopp's being German as well

Firmino turns 30 near the beginning of the season after next

Mane (who is going to be a massive target of RM, Barca (especially if no Neymar), and PSG (especially if Neymar leaves) also turns 30 in the season after next

Werner can also play on the wing and can play in a 2 striker or CF/SS set-up

I always have multiple reasons backing up my rationales when I make a positing about major player moves

 

[Pizy 18,952]

Now we need City to batter Spuds tomorrow. Then if we get Pulisic back fully fit after the break we can attack this tough run with our complete Arsenal of players.

[Atomiswave 6,118]

9 minutes ago, Vesper said:

his game is tailor made for Klopp-ball and they can get him for half what he worth this summer

never underestimate Klopp's being German as well

Firmino turns 30 near the beginning of the season after next

Mane (who is going to be a massive target of RM, Barca (especially if no Neymar), and PSG (especially if Neymar leaves) also turns 30 in the season after next

Werner can also play on the wing and can play in a 2 striker or CF/SS set-up

I always have multiple reasons backing up my rationales when I make a positing about major player moves

 

Yup agree.....lets hope klopp fucks off back to Germany come soon. It will fuck up their shit big time.

[NikkiCFC 8,335]

Have 6 points advantage. 13 games to go. Playing at home against both United and Spurs. Even though Frank said we are underdogs absolutely no excuse not to finish in top4! 

[Nicco 927]

6 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

Have 6 points advantage. 13 games to go. Playing at home against both United and Spurs. Even though Frank said we are underdogs absolutely no excuse not to finish in top4! 

We actually have 5 I think Sheffield won today.

[Nicco 927]

30 minutes ago, Vesper said:

we shall see

I know some on here think he is lead pipe cinch to end up here and plan the summer around him and Sancho and Chilwell

I say no

in fact I can see us missing out on all 3

Sancho as a miss would most disturb me (I do think he is the most likely to truly want to come here)

Werner is my number one want at striker (with Lautaro also a co-number one, but I do not see us dropping that type of quid) but I do not see him coming here

Chilwell at £80m is absurd IMHO

I have very little faith in the board at a multiplicity of levels so my Negative Nancy stance is understandable

they are on a horrid all-round run and if we miss out on CL again and do not sell Kante and roll up another loss I can see a large amount of the monies gained from sales going to shore up our FFP standing

I am under no illusions that we are going to drop 400m plus gross in the summer window

If we can't get Werner I'd love Dybala as a second option.

[NikkiCFC 8,335]

12 minutes ago, Nicco said:

We actually have 5 I think Sheffield won today.

I know, I don't count them in top4 race. 

[Nicco 927]

Just now, NikkiCFC said:

I know, I don't count them in top4 race. 

I think we should, they have a decent team and have done pretty decent against the big sides as well.