Gilvorak 3,734 Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 Hazard > Neymar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 Santos declined Chelsea and Real Madrid to stay 2 more years with Neymar...In the mean time, they won Copa do Brasil, Libertadores, Recopa Sudamericana and 3x Sao Paulo State Championship. Even though, in his last year of contract, they sold him for 25mi + 2 friendlies.How was that a bad deal?Because they could have sold him for 50 odd million in 2010. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nono 791 Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 Could the second offer be from us ? No official source said it's from Madrid. I know I'm reaching a bit, but i sure hope so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 Because they could have sold him for 50 odd million in 2010. First, Neymar's buyout clause back then was of 38mi euros (which was what was offered from both Real and Chelsea). Second, no money would replace winning Libertadores and Copa do Brasil. Ask any 'santista' and they will say Neymar was one fucking hell of a business! Would you be happy with Chelsea selling Hazard because the offer was too good to turn down? Could the second offer be from us ? No official source said it's from Madrid. I know I'm reaching a bit, but i sure hope so.No, Santos already confirmed it is from Real Madrid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 I don't particularly care where he goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dion 2,476 Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 Idk, it seems odd for them to be selling him now. And for this price... I'd have never guessed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dion 2,476 Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 ESPN reporter Paulo Andrade says on twitter that Neymar chose Barcelona and they'll pay 28-30m euros for him. It seems fox sports radio says the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 If this happened before we signed Mata and Hazard i would have been jealous as hell.As it happens now we have those two im not really that bothered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nono 791 Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 Seems like he'll go to Barcelona. Madrid just embarassed themselves by putting in a bid. Now everyone knows he rejected them. Bigger concern perhaps for us is replacing Mikel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 If this happened before we signed Mata and Hazard i would have been jealous as hell. As it happens now we have those two im not really that bothered.SAME! Idk, it seems odd for them to be selling him now. And for this price... I'd have never guessed.LOL, you are the most alienated Brazilian (who follows football) when it comes to Neymar. I am having some awesome discussions/banting with the santistas who are my friends on facebook. Our "pelada" group is highly active this evening! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ainsley Harriott 2,732 Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 I don't particularly care where he goes. As long as it isn't Stamford Bridge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 Neymar to Barcelona for 28m euros.The supidiest move in football history after Torres to Chelsea, Neymar only had one more year in his contract.He will probably score some goals in La Liga but will fail againts the big dogs in UCL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 Neymar to Barcelona for 28m euros.The supidiest move in football history after Torres to Chelsea, Neymar only had one more year in his contract.He will probably score some goals in La Liga but will fail againts the big dogs in UCL.I hope you are as right as the home kit and Mourinho! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edenhazard17 281 Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 Idk, it seems odd for them to be selling him now. And for this price... I'd have never guessed.It is make sense actually for them to selling Neymar now. If they wait until next year, they won't get any compensation, because Neymar's contract is up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeboii 1,844 Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 Barca selling Sanchez and Neymar will move to his position? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jype 6,398 Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 Truly a great deal for that price but after getting Hazard, Mata and Oscar in the past couple of years I'm not too bothered we weren't even bidding for him this time around.If I was in his shoes, I'd join Real Madrid rather than Barca. Both have their star men in attack already with Ronaldo and Messi but at Barcelona I really can't see another player shining when their play is so focused on Messi and all the other forwards are there just to do the donkey work, like Pedro, Tello etc. At Real Madrid the other attacking players get much more involved in their build up play and who knows, with Ronaldo's future at the club in doubt there could well be an opening for someone to really step up and fill his boots in a year or two if he left and that would be the perfect opportunity for Neymar to really make himself one of the very best players in the world.At Barca he would always be in Messi's shadow because it's been clear for a few years now that Messi has too much power at the club and he will drive away all the competition if they won't play like Messi wants, which is to stay out of his way and letting him score all the goals. Just need to look at their squad a few years back when they had the likes of Eto'o and Henry scoring 20-30 league goals each and Messi had another 30 as well but as soon as Messi wanted to be the main man and score 60, all of the others left and were replaced by work horses like Pedro who don't have the balls nor the skills to tell Messi what to do and they're just happy to be part of such a good squad. If the manager isn't strong enough to balance their play to suit both Messi and Neymar (meaning less goals for Messi), the latter will go down the same road as Zlatan did and leave within a couple of years because there's no room for both of them and Messi sure as hell wouldn't be the one leaving. Who knows, maybe they'll even be able to make it work if they've realized they're too dependent on Messi but like I said, they need a strong manager for that because Messi sure isn't going to be happy if all of a sudden he doesn't get the same freedom he currently has. Is Vilanova the right man to tell Messi what to do? I doubt it. Alexis Sanchez is another one of the players who have suffered because of Barca's Messi-centered play. He was one of the best wingers in the world when Barcelona bought him but hasn't really been able to make an impact because his role is only marginal and he doesn't get involved as much as he should. If Barca get Neymar, Sanchez will become obsolete for them and some club will get one hell of a deal if he's available for a cut price. Can easily see him getting back to his best once he leaves Barcelona and goes to a team where it isn't all about one single player. Maybe we should take a punt on Alexis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 I don't think anyone can compare Oscar and Neymar's prices, that's daft. Neymar's got half a year left on his contract if I remember correctly and he's still going for 28m? Would've been a lot more if he had 1 more year left on his current deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 Truly a great deal for that price but after getting Hazard, Mata and Oscar in the past couple of years I'm not too bothered we weren't even bidding for him this time around.If I was in his shoes, I'd join Real Madrid rather than Barca. Both have their star men in attack already with Ronaldo and Messi but at Barcelona I really can't see another player shining when their play is so focused on Messi and all the other forwards are there just to do the donkey work, like Pedro, Tello etc. At Real Madrid the other attacking players get much more involved in their build up play and who knows, with Ronaldo's future at the club in doubt there could well be an opening for someone to really step up and fill his boots in a year or two if he left and that would be the perfect opportunity for Neymar to really make himself one of the very best players in the world.At Barca he would always be in Messi's shadow because it's been clear for a few years now that Messi has too much power at the club and he will drive away all the competition if they won't play like Messi wants, which is to stay out of his way and letting him score all the goals. Just need to look at their squad a few years back when they had the likes of Eto'o and Henry scoring 20-30 league goals each and Messi had another 30 as well but as soon as Messi wanted to be the main man and score 60, all of the others left and were replaced by work horses like Pedro who don't have the balls nor the skills to tell Messi what to do and they're just happy to be part of such a good squad. If the manager isn't strong enough to balance their play to suit both Messi and Neymar (meaning less goals for Messi), the latter will go down the same road as Zlatan did and leave within a couple of years because there's no room for both of them and Messi sure as hell wouldn't be the one leaving. Who knows, maybe they'll even be able to make it work if they've realized they're too dependent on Messi but like I said, they need a strong manager for that because Messi sure isn't going to be happy if all of a sudden he doesn't get the same freedom he currently has. Is Vilanova the right man to tell Messi what to do? I doubt it. Alexis Sanchez is another one of the players who have suffered because of Barca's Messi-centered play. He was one of the best wingers in the world when Barcelona bought him but hasn't really been able to make an impact because his role is only marginal and he doesn't get involved as much as he should. If Barca get Neymar, Sanchez will become obsolete for them and some club will get one hell of a deal if he's available for a cut price. Can easily see him getting back to his best once he leaves Barcelona and goes to a team where it isn't all about one single player. Maybe we should take a punt on Alexis?We have too many anti barca in this forum. If I were neymar, I will pick barca for obvious reason. He will get to play his favorite position left winger. Yes the offense is messicentric like us mata centric but in barca he will have plenty of one on one chance against defender which he will enjoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dion 2,476 Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 It is make sense actually for them to selling Neymar now. If they wait until next year, they won't get any compensation, because Neymar's contract is up.I didn't mean next year, but why not after Confederations Cup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edenhazard17 281 Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 I didn't mean next year, but why not after Confederations Cup?Ah, I see your point now. Maybe because they promised Neymar to know if there is any offer from big clubs. Real and Barcelona clever enough to make a bid now if it is true. After Confederations Cup his price will be doubled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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