Wishlist Wesley Sneijder

[zolayes 14,489]

RUBBISH

The year before Carlo came, aka the years Essien was injured most part of the season.

And most part of his appearances in previous years were as substitute, not as a starting XI.

check the real facts ....they are available...he played 47 games in the Hiddink year

the year before Essien played 27

one final stat he is 24 in 5 seasons he has made 158 appearances ...without ANC it would have 170

Edited June 8, 2011 by zolayes

[Tomo 21,733]

The only player who worked with 3 and said something about it was Belletti, who said days ago that Hiddink was the best manager he worked with.

Checkmate.

To be fair with Hiddink incharge i wont be scared one bit of facing Jose in the Champions league.

[RX8 40]

The 3 reasons why Guus is Good at Chelsea is because

1- he is not a coach who you can mess with, he does not care if you are a big Pay player if you don't do it right you are out.

2- he can make player play with hearth for the team and help to recover players in bad moments.

3- is the owner men of thrus and advisor, so you better do your best or your ass will be in the line.

[lionsden 4,689]

Now we are going really off topic...

1.I remember Essien or Ramires often being brought on for Mikel at HT.How do you comment that ?I'd say he is slow in transition,doesn't provide the pace that our play desperately requires(check last season).

2.It wasn't always both of them.Ballack-Essien-Lampard was our midfield for many seasons.Mikel was never the first choice because we don't have the possibility to play with holding midfielder since Makelele left.Obi was presented as a new Maka,but never proved it on the pitch.

2.He gets booked for a meaningless faul while Vieira gets a yellow card to prevent the opposition to create a quick counter-attack and score.

It all comes down to this:

Mikel or Essien ?

Essien- 3 years ago

Mikel- presently

[Henrique 9,133]

check the real facts ....they are available...he played 47 games in the Hiddink year

the year before Essien played 27

Your stats are terrible wrong.

League appearances as starting:

06/07 - 10 - Jose

07/08 - 20 - Jose

08/09 - 33 ( when Essien was injured half of the season, he player not because the manager wanted to do so, but because they had to ) - Scolari/Hiddink

09/10 - 21 - Carlo

10/11 - 28 - Carlo

As I said, he played more under Carlo and after Ballack left.

[lionsden 4,689]

Your stats are terrible wrong.

League appearances as starting:

06/07 - 10 - Jose

07/08 - 20 - Jose

08/09 - 33 ( when Essien was injured half of the season, he player not because the manager wanted to do so, but because they had to ) - Scolari/Hiddink

09/10 - 21 - Carlo

10/11 - 28 - Carlo

As I said, he played more under Carlo and after Ballack left.

How could a mediocre/rubbish player have managed an average of 20 league appearances every season since 2007 under 5 different managers?

[Tomo 21,733]

Did he really only start 10 in 06/07?

[Henrique 9,133]

How can a mediocre/rubbish player make an average of 20 league appearances every season since 2007 under 5 different managers?

Maybe thats why in this period we won only one Premier League trophy and never managed to won a CL.

We need a better player than Mikel if we want to do better.

[Shane 2,275]

Maybe thats why in this period we won only one Premier League trophy and never managed to won a CL.

We need a better player than Mikel if we want to do better.

Thats it. Everyone, its been solved. The reason we only won one league title and no Champions League's in the last while is because of John Obi Mikel. He bribbed Overbro, he made JT slip. He was secrectly playing for United and winning them matches while making us play shite.

[lionsden 4,689]

Thats it. Everyone, its been solved. The reason we only won one league title and no Champions League's in the last while is because of John Obi Mikel. He bribbed Overbro, he made JT slip. He was secrectly playing for United and winning them matches while making us play shite.

:D :D You are evil

[Henrique 9,133]

Thats it. Everyone, its been solved. The reason we only won one league title and no Champions League's in the last while is because of John Obi Mikel. He bribbed Overbro, he made JT slip. He was secrectly playing for United and winning them matches while making us play shite.

Dont need to bitch.

The fact he played at least 20 matches in past seasons doesn't mean he is a superb mid.

He is good to be used as sub, as a squad player.

Mikel is not the future of Chelsea nor our midfielder maestro, as I read it here. He is not sublime or awesome.

[lionsden 4,689]

Dont need to bitch.

The fact he played at least 20 matches in past seasons doesn't mean he is a superb mid.

He is good to be used as sub, as a squad player.

Mikel is not the future of Chelsea nor our midfielder maestro, as I read it here. He is not sublime or awesome.

In layman's term, why is Mikel Obi not good enough for Chelsea (starting 11)

[Henrique 9,133]

In layman's term, why is Mikel Obi not good enough for Chelsea (starting 11)

Why ?

Classless player.

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We need more creative and classy players like Sneijder.

[zolayes 14,489]

Did he really only start 10 in 06/07?

in all comps that year made 24 starts and 17 from the bench ...bear in mind he was 19 ...can't recall anyone that age making that many appearances

for us since Ray Wilkins

[Henrique 9,133]

Did he really only start 10 in 06/07?

League appearances only 10, and he completed only 3 of them.

Check for yourself.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/player/_/id/60503/john-mikel-obi?cc=3888

[Bear-Felix 16]

can't believe people don't rate Mikel

I've said it many times, Essien is not a holding midfielder, he's a B2B, Mikel is easily the best (and only) DM we have.

http://www.zonalmarking.net/2010/02/08/when-will-john-obi-mikel-get-the-credit-he-deserves/

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/oct/03/mikel-john-obi-chelsea

^read those 2 articles if you can be bothered, they explain how good and under rated he really is. People are so quick to complain how we always buy the finished article, here we have a player that we bought with potential (albeit we misused him a bit) but he's turned out to be an excellent player and we're telling him to FO.

[Feroze 487]

Lol.. we have gone way too off-topic!

[ulsterchelsea 3,221]

Lol.. we have gone way too off-topic!

correct mate the mikel fan club took over last night! More talk today in some of the rags about us taking the lead in the race for sniejder.