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On 15/11/2023 at 22:16, Magic Lamps said:

He can but he would be wasted there. Needs to be the striker or just behind where he is at his best. Nkunku belongs in the centre. Wrote a piece about this in his player thread. 

Poch used him off the left in pre-season. I agree, he suits more central positions better though. His record in Germany proves that. 
 


 

On the game itself, Newcastle have a lot of injuries but they’ll be right up for this. We aren’t out of the woods yet because we still looked pretty poor v Spurs until they went down to 9 men and so naive defensively v City so not sure what to expect. There will be goals at least.

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We did not look poor until Spurs went down to 9 men, That is a fantasy. After conceding that first goal let’s look at how much pressure we were putting on them.

11' SAVE! Maddison inexplicably gives the ball away under very little pressure, and Sterling puts Jackson in on goal. The striker hesitates but manages to cut back and find the space to shoot, and his effort looks like it will fly into the bottom corner, until Vicario gets down to his left and palms it behind for a corner.
 
18' Tottenham · Udogie receives the first booking of the match for a nasty challenge on Sterling. He seemed to go in with two feet, but while there is a VAR check, the decision is to stay with a yellow card. He is a lucky boy, and so is Sterling, who could have been in real trouble there if Udogie had fully caught him.
 
21’ GOAL!!! STERLING LEVELS FOR Chelsea!!! They have been under a lot of pressure in these early exchanges, but the persistence of Sterling means they have equalised. He picks up the ball and carries it into the Spurs box, and receives a big slice of luck as his shot is blocked back into his path. He brings it down again before finishing, making it 1-1, though there is a VAR review as it seems to hit his arm… NO GOAL!!! Spurs are very fortunate, as the replays show the ball flicks back up onto Sterling's arm before he finishes, and the goal is ruled out. Spurs' 1-0 lead remains intact!
 
27' GOAL!!! CAICEDO LEVELS WITH A STUNNER!!! A penalty shout falls on defeat ears before the ball finds its way out to Caicedo outside the box. The former Brighton man smashes goalwards first time, and his shot is superb as it flies past Vicario and into the back of the net. However, the flag goes up for offside, and there will be a VAR check to ascertain whether Jackson was offside and blocking Vicario's view... NO GOAL!!! The VAR rules that Jackson was indeed offside and blocking Vicario's view. However, there is yet another VAR check to see whether a Romero challenge in the build-up to the disallowed goal is worthy of a penalty, and even a red card!
ROMERO IS OFF!!! The VAR and on-field referee Michael Oliver decide that Romero's challenge is not only enough to award a penalty, but also see the defender given his marching orders with a straight red card. It was a poor challenge and could have caused his international team-mate a real problem.
 
Chelsea ·GOAL!!! PALMER MAKES NO MISTAKE!!
 
 
 In the 37’ we scored again but the goal was called off because Sterling was off side in the build up.

Spurs did not go down to nine men until 55’ in the second half. Chelsea owned that first half and had Spurs under a lot of pressure until the Penalty equalized. To say we were not good until Spurs went down to nine men is absolutely wrong. We conceded a goal and we were the better team every minute after that.

 

 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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5 hours ago, ZAPHOD2319 said:

We did not look poor until Spurs went down to 9 men, That is a fantasy. After conceding that first goal let’s look at how much pressure we were putting on them.

11' SAVE! Maddison inexplicably gives the ball away under very little pressure, and Sterling puts Jackson in on goal. The striker hesitates but manages to cut back and find the space to shoot, and his effort looks like it will fly into the bottom corner, until Vicario gets down to his left and palms it behind for a corner.
 
18' Tottenham · Udogie receives the first booking of the match for a nasty challenge on Sterling. He seemed to go in with two feet, but while there is a VAR check, the decision is to stay with a yellow card. He is a lucky boy, and so is Sterling, who could have been in real trouble there if Udogie had fully caught him.
 
21’ GOAL!!! STERLING LEVELS FOR Chelsea!!! They have been under a lot of pressure in these early exchanges, but the persistence of Sterling means they have equalised. He picks up the ball and carries it into the Spurs box, and receives a big slice of luck as his shot is blocked back into his path. He brings it down again before finishing, making it 1-1, though there is a VAR review as it seems to hit his arm… NO GOAL!!! Spurs are very fortunate, as the replays show the ball flicks back up onto Sterling's arm before he finishes, and the goal is ruled out. Spurs' 1-0 lead remains intact!
 
27' GOAL!!! CAICEDO LEVELS WITH A STUNNER!!! A penalty shout falls on defeat ears before the ball finds its way out to Caicedo outside the box. The former Brighton man smashes goalwards first time, and his shot is superb as it flies past Vicario and into the back of the net. However, the flag goes up for offside, and there will be a VAR check to ascertain whether Jackson was offside and blocking Vicario's view... NO GOAL!!! The VAR rules that Jackson was indeed offside and blocking Vicario's view. However, there is yet another VAR check to see whether a Romero challenge in the build-up to the disallowed goal is worthy of a penalty, and even a red card!
ROMERO IS OFF!!! The VAR and on-field referee Michael Oliver decide that Romero's challenge is not only enough to award a penalty, but also see the defender given his marching orders with a straight red card. It was a poor challenge and could have caused his international team-mate a real problem.
 
Chelsea ·GOAL!!! PALMER MAKES NO MISTAKE!!
 
 
 In the 37’ we scored again but the goal was called off because Sterling was off side in the build up.

Spurs did not go down to nine men until 55’ in the second half. Chelsea owned that first half and had Spurs under a lot of pressure until the Penalty equalized. To say we were not good until Spurs went down to nine men is absolutely wrong. We conceded a goal and we were the better team every minute after that.

 

 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Maybe unconvincing is a better word.

I don’t think we played that well in all honesty. Scoreline flattered us. We laboured to like the 75-80th min to score against 9 men. We did force some mistakes but to say we played very well is clutching at straws. 

Text commentary could say whatever it was I watched the game, it took us to the second half being up against 9 men to really lay a glove on Spurs. Because they played their back 4 on the halfway line. Yes thats football but 11 v 11 would of ended up like the City game, 100%, high scoring game for both sides because we are still naïve defensively and Spurs also will concede chances in this way they play.

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3 hours ago, OneMoSalah said:

Maybe unconvincing is a better word.

I don’t think we played that well in all honesty. Scoreline flattered us. We laboured to like the 75-80th min to score against 9 men. We did force some mistakes but to say we played very well is clutching at straws. 

Text commentary could say whatever it was I watched the game, it took us to the second half being up against 9 men to really lay a glove on Spurs. Because they played their back 4 on the halfway line. Yes thats football but 11 v 11 would of ended up like the City game, 100%, high scoring game for both sides because we are still naïve defensively and Spurs also will concede chances in this way they play.

Our defending in these big games could have been better true, but we also were faced with better offences than usual. I think the biggest weakness remains our chance wasting.  Both in the city game and the spuds one before the first send off we had more and better chances . Take some of those and fewer fingers pointed at defence. I think playing both Disasi and silva with their lack of recovery pace makes us vulnerable. Can only accommodate one atm. Also we are seeing Cucurella limits even when he is playing at his best again. Should consider playing Colwill at Lb and definitely Badiashile over Disasi for me. 

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Watched Argentina vs Brazil a couple days ago. Was a bit surprised a healthy Silva was not playing or on the bench. I think his time has passed. He has been great but once an aging player losses acceptable game speed, it is never going to get better. 

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On 23/11/2023 at 17:14, ZAPHOD2319 said:

Watched Argentina vs Brazil a couple days ago. Was a bit surprised a healthy Silva was not playing or on the bench. I think his time has passed. He has been great but once an aging player losses acceptable game speed, it is never going to get better. 

He can still play in our set up, for a bit anyway. I think Argentina were very fast. That game was a warzone !

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5 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

He can still play in our set up, for a bit anyway. I think Argentina were very fast. That game was a warzone !

It was a good watch. Argentina looked sharp and well drilled. Brazil looked like a collection of good players working together but not a coherent plan. If it is true that Ancelotti takes the Brazilian job next year, he and his staff will make that team sharp.

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